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Filed: Timeline
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I'm currently located overseas.

My present legal situation is pretty tough.

I have limited time on my hands.

In short: I've been systematically assaulted and victimized by the police.

I have been tortured, beaten, injured, my apt has been raided, pc and cell phone seized.

Front door got knocked down and they locked me up in the state psychiatric asylum for 28 days.

For so called evaluation. In fact it was a form of torture. I had to survive there

side by side with serial murderers, rapists, schizophrenics, that sort of people.

I have been given an injection of a strong neuroleptic substance by force.

That's not allowed according to the psychiatric forensic rules whatsoever.

A victim of a coercive and punitive psychiatry and police abuse and torture.

Such methods are applied over here to those who chose to defend themselves.

As stated @ travel(dot)state(dot)gov/visa/temp/types/types_5671.html

Victims of certain criminal activities that either occurred in the United States

or violated U.S. laws may be eligible to petition for U nonimmigrant status

to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).

Victims must have suffered substantial mental or physical abuse

due to the criminal activity and possess information concerning that criminal activity.

Law enforcement authorities must also certify that the victim has been, is being,

or is likely to be helpful in the investigation or prosecution of the criminal activity.

There are plenty of inf about petitioning but not much about the le certification itself.

www(dot)uscis(dot)gov/USCIS/Resources/Humanitarian%20Based%20Benefits%20and%20Resources/TU_QAforLawEnforcement.pdf

It seems that certification form has to be submitted along with the main petition. And the cert authority must be from the US.

USCIS approves U nonimmigrant petitions both for people who are in the United States and for those abroad.

If you are overseas and wish to apply for U-1 nonimmigrant status,

first you must petition directly to the USCIS Vermont Service Center.

U.S. embassies and consulates abroad are not permitted to accept petitions

for U nonimmigrant status. Once the petition is approved, you may apply for a visa.

But how on Earth could i possibly get this certification if i'm overseas? Any ideas?

What shall be done in my case?

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
Timeline
Posted

**** Moving from USCIS to General Imigration ****

The U visa is not really meant for situations such as yours, and presumably you have no hard evidence/ police and doctors report of what happened. Your best bet is to move to a different city or even better a different country in Europe which allows citizens of your country.

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: Timeline
Posted

and presumably you have no hard evidence/ police and doctors report of what happened.

There are illegal proceedings against me underway. The whole prosecution case, including the psychiatric report and stuff.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

What country are you from?

USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

Posted

What Prevents Any Foreign National From Claiming This Status By Saying They Were a Victim of a Crime?

A: A petition for U nonimmigrant status must also contain a certification of helpfulness from a certifying agency. That means the victim must provide a U Nonimmigrant Status Certification (Form I-918, Supplement B), from a U.S. law enforcement agency that demonstrates the petitioner "has been helpful, is being helpful, or is likely to be helpful" in the investigation or prosecution of the criminal activity.

It is always helpful to quote he entire content of a process raher than what it is that you wish it to say. therefore if the crimes against you didn't happen in the US or on US terriory I don't see how a US law enforcement agency will be of ant assistance to you.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=1b15306f31534210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=ee1e3e4d77d73210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
Timeline
Posted

The part you highlighted about violating US laws. US laws only apply inside the US areas. Other countries can do as they please with their laws. As others have said unless these acts took place in a US controlled area you are not going to get a U visa to help US law enforcement.

This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
Timeline
Posted

what country are you in, and what country are you from, and what country was your birthplace?

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

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Filed: Timeline
Posted (edited)

It is always helpful to quote he entire content of a process raher than what it is that you wish it to say. therefore if the crimes against you didn't happen in the US or on US terriory I don't see how a US law enforcement agency will be of ant assistance to you.

The part you highlighted about violating US laws. US laws only apply inside the US areas. Other countries can do as they please with their laws. As others have said unless these acts took place in a US controlled area you are not going to get a U visa to help US law enforcement.

How would you both interpret this either or clause?

Victims of certain criminal activities that either occurred in the United States or violated U.S. laws may be eligible to petition for U nonimmigrant status to the U.S

That's not exactly correct. Nowadays US legal system is pretty international on some not so easily apparent plane.

What country are you from?

what country are you in, and what country are you from, and what country was your birthplace?

ru, ru, ru

What Prevents Any Foreign National From Claiming This Status By Saying They Were a Victim of a Crime?

A: A petition for U nonimmigrant status must also contain a certification of helpfulness from a certifying agency. That means the victim must provide a U Nonimmigrant Status Certification (Form I-918, Supplement B), from a U.S. law enforcement agency that demonstrates the petitioner "has been helpful, is being helpful, or is likely to be helpful" in the investigation or prosecution of the criminal activity.

That's precisely the very quintessence of this law system. There is always a door for those who know where it is..

Edited by xeviera
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
Timeline
Posted

You are trying to read things into the item you posted that aren't there. The U visa is a visa to allow people access to the US to help the US prosecute people that committed US crimes. You do not fall into that class of people.

This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this.

Posted (edited)

Because I know exacly the intent of the U visa. The US can not nor will it govern another country laws, if that was the case than entire populations of such countries as Cuba, Rowanda, China, Iraq, and many others would qualify for a U visa.

Also I have seen a U visa be put into use.

Edited by LIFE'SJOURNEY
Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
Timeline
Posted

ru ? Russia ? yes? no ? if no, please spell out the entire country name (thanks in advance ? ! ? ! ! ! )

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

-=-=-=-=-=R E A D ! ! !=-=-=-=-=-

Whoa Nelly ! Want NVC Info? see http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

Congratulations on your approval ! We All Applaud your accomplishment with Most Wonderful Kissies !

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

ru? What's ru?

And the US legal system is not 'pretty international'. The US legal system applies to the United States. United States cannot prosecute crimes committed in other countires.

Nor can they apply their laws to crimes committed in other countries

good luck

USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

Filed: Other Country: Brazil
Timeline
Posted (edited)

Xeviera you misunderstood the "U Visa" . The criminal activity that violated U.S. law" is regarding crimes that occurred in territories and possessions of the U.S.

The U visa status certification has to state the individual are being helpful or was helpful with the authorities investigating or prosecuting criminal activity that occurred in USA or territories and possessions of United States.

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/dhs_u_visa_certification_guide.pdf

Edited by sandranj
Filed: Timeline
Posted
There is always a door for those who know where it is..

That may be true, but you are confused about what the U visa is. You are taking snippets from the guidelines and applying them with out looking at what the U visa is and ignoring what everyone is trying to tell you- Thats not what the U-visa is.

In plain English: The U visa is when a crime is committed and the immigrant can be a witness for the prosecution. The immigrant does not have to be in the US to apply for the U visa. The crime could have occurred in the US or in a US territory.

So lets look at your situation. What is the "crime?" (you were victimized and tortured) Does the US have a right to prosecute the "offender?" (the foreign gov that did it) No. Because the "crime" did not occur in the US or in a US territory. Therefore you will not be a witness for the prosecution because there is no case- so no U visa.

You may be eligible for some type of asylum or refugee immigration path. I really dont know. You really did not provide any details about why you were arrested (race/religion/political), you also said "There are illegal proceedings against me underway". If thats true, and they are currently underway- your main concern should be seeking immediate refugee now in any country that will accept you as Penguin posted in post #2 and not waste time trying to find what you may think is the 'best' country (the US)

 
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