A bit of a dilemma and looking for answers

[ReignDance 4]

Hello, I had some questions. First of all, I became engaged to a wonderful woman (Indonesian) and we are currently applying for her K-1 visa. After that, we will get married here, in the United States. Seems great so far. There is something we both want to do eventually, though. We want to live in Indonesia (for certain reasons). I'm not sure if we'd do it temporarily or permanently, but let's assume permanently. We read that she may not relocate while she has her green card for a very long time. Are there exceptions? She's going to miss her family terribly and would like to live there again at some point in time. If you need more details, please ask. I'll be happy to give them.

[TBoneTX 43,057]

*** Thread moved from Citizenship forum to K-1 Process forum -- topic involves parameters of the K-1 visa. ***

[LH&me 2]

Hello, I had some questions. First of all, I became engaged to a wonderful woman (Indonesian) and we are currently applying for her K-1 visa. After that, we will get married here, in the United States. Seems great so far. There is something we both want to do eventually, though. We want to live in Indonesia (for certain reasons). I'm not sure if we'd do it temporarily or permanently, but let's assume permanently. We read that she may not relocate while she has her green card for a very long time. Are there exceptions? She's going to miss her family terribly and would like to live there again at some point in time. If you need more details, please ask. I'll be happy to give them.

Besides technical factors, are YOU happy to leave the US permanently and relocate to Indonesia? Are you aware of everything you need to adapt to? Granted she's a wonderful woman, but the romantic feeling doesn't last long. There might be times during your marriage where you might wish you never moved with her. (Every marriage has frictions) But, if you think you will be just as dedicated to her as you are now after moving to her country, then go for it. But think about what you have to leave behind. Only if you truly love her, and continue to love her till death do you part, you will be happy to leave behind YOUR country and make her country and culture yours.

You were probably looking for immigration-related answers, but i think this is more important to think about. Just kind of though. Hope you get the answers you're looking for.

[ReignDance 4]

Besides technical factors, are YOU happy to leave the US permanently and relocate to Indonesia? Are you aware of everything you need to adapt to? Granted she's a wonderful woman, but the romantic feeling doesn't last long. There might be times during your marriage where you might wish you never moved with her. (Every marriage has frictions) But, if you think you will be just as dedicated to her as you are now after moving to her country, then go for it. But think about what you have to leave behind. Only if you truly love her, and continue to love her till death do you part, you will be happy to leave behind YOUR country and make her country and culture yours.

You were probably looking for immigration-related answers, but i think this is more important to think about. Just kind of though. Hope you get the answers you're looking for.

It's not like I plan to give up my American citizenship. I'd just like to live there with her for a long time. If things go bad there, I want to know if she and I can come back to the United States with no problems. I don't want her American citizenship to be revoked, because she hasn't lived here for a while.

[JEC777 13]

Besides technical factors, are YOU happy to leave the US permanently and relocate to Indonesia? Are you aware of everything you need to adapt to? Granted she's a wonderful woman, but the romantic feeling doesn't last long. There might be times during your marriage where you might wish you never moved with her. (Every marriage has frictions) But, if you think you will be just as dedicated to her as you are now after moving to her country, then go for it. But think about what you have to leave behind. Only if you truly love her, and continue to love her till death do you part, you will be happy to leave behind YOUR country and make her country and culture yours.

You were probably looking for immigration-related answers, but i think this is more important to think about. Just kind of though. Hope you get the answers you're looking for.

"You were probably looking for immigration-related answers, but i think this is more important to think about. Just kind of though. Hope you get the answers you're looking for".

Wow. I appreciate that there is a lot of good advice on the Immigration process given here at VJ and it is incredibly helpful..... but I have to say I am frequently surprised how often people take it as an opportunity to give un-solicitored advice on peoples relationships and how people should live their lives. Just my un-solicitored opinion.

Just to add, I'm sure he is just as happy and prepared to leave his country as she is to leave hers.... don't quite get the point you are trying to make in your post

[Penguin_ie 5,985]

What sort of timescale are you thinking about? There are several issues to consider:

- whie the AOS from the K1 is going on, after marriage, she cannot leave the country (well, she can, but can;t get back in) for at least 2-3 months.

- She will need to be present for a potential AOS interview, often after some 6 months after filing

- She will need to be present to ROC (remove conditions) 2 years later

- If she leaves the USA for longer than 6 months at a time while a greencard holder, there is a chance they will revoke her greencard. If she stays out longer than a year, it is definitely gone.

- If she can hold out until she is a naturalised US citizen (some 3 years and a few months after she gets her greencard), she can travel freely and stay in Indonesia for as long as she wants.

[LH&me 2]

"You were probably looking for immigration-related answers, but i think this is more important to think about. Just kind of though. Hope you get the answers you're looking for".

Wow. I appreciate that there is a lot of good advice on the Immigration process given here at VJ and it is incredibly helpful..... but I have to say I am frequently surprised how often people take it as an opportunity to give un-solicitored advice on peoples relationships and how people should live their lives. Just my un-solicitored opinion.

Just to add, I'm sure he is just as happy and prepared to leave his country as she is to leave hers.... don't quite get the point you are trying to make in your post

The more frequently you see people taking an opportunity to give "un-solicitored" advice (unsolicited, perhaps?), the more frequently you have the opportunity to throw in your unsolicited opinions.

Back to topic

Edited October 18, 2012 by LH&me

[ReignDance 4]

What sort of timescale are you thinking about? There are several issues to consider:

- whie the AOS from the K1 is going on, after marriage, she cannot leave the country (well, she can, but can;t get back in) for at least 2-3 months.

- She will need to be present for a potential AOS interview, often after some 6 months after filing

- She will need to be present to ROC (remove conditions) 2 years later

- If she leaves the USA for longer than 6 months at a time while a greencard holder, there is a chance they will revoke her greencard. If she stays out longer than a year, it is definitely gone.

- If she can hold out until she is a naturalised US citizen (some 3 years and a few months after she gets her greencard), she can travel freely and stay in Indonesia for as long as she wants.

What the future holds is always uncertain. Maybe we'll end up in Indonesia for 10+ years. So, once she gets naturalized after 3 years, she and I can move to Indonesia for as long as we want; and we don't have to worry that her American citizenship will get revoked?

[JEC777 13]

The more frequently you see people taking an opportunity to give "un-solicitored" advice (unsolicited, perhaps?), the more frequently you have the opportunity to throw in your unsolicited opinions.

Back to topic

Touche....and thanks for the spell check

[Penguin_ie 5,985]

Yes, once she has citizenship she can leave until the day she dies and would still be a US citizen.

[ReignDance 4]

Yes, once she has citizenship she can leave until the day she dies and would still be a US citizen.

Thank you so much for the help, she'll be very happy to hear that. Thanks to everybody else who helped too, I appreciate it!

[didopage 337]

When are you thinking of moving to live in Indonesia? Right after your marriage or later?

[Andrea&Henry 311]

Maybe thisis out of topic but I think you are such a great future husband. You are quitting everything you know to give her a chance to spend more time with her family, that is sosweet. Some people in this topic FORGETS that we ( the foreign fiances and spouse) have to quit everything we know to be with our loveone(US citizen). Nobody seems to care everything we have to deal with in order to be here. Maybe some our countries are mot perfect, compare to the US, but still that's our home. I truly love this country but I cant help missing my family, my friends, my culture. I think that's a gesture of true love and can stop thinking that your lady is a very lucky girl. Wishing you the best and tons if blessings in your journey together

[jmack 1]

very well spoken ...andrea and henry

[ReignDance 4]

Maybe thisis out of topic but I think you are such a great future husband. You are quitting everything you know to give her a chance to spend more time with her family, that is sosweet. Some people in this topic FORGETS that we ( the foreign fiances and spouse) have to quit everything we know to be with our loveone(US citizen). Nobody seems to care everything we have to deal with in order to be here. Maybe some our countries are mot perfect, compare to the US, but still that's our home. I truly love this country but I cant help missing my family, my friends, my culture. I think that's a gesture of true love and can stop thinking that your lady is a very lucky girl. Wishing you the best and tons if blessings in your journey together

Oh, well thank you very much for saying such a nice thing about me. It means a lot to me to hear that . She is giving up a lot to be with me, so I will do the same for her.