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Today, I read a post where somebody states that with the N-400, they sent pretty much the same evidence they did with 751 but with one more year of evidence (since the date the 751 was sent out).

Seriously? I thought about including tax transcripts, passport (USC), marraige certificate, 2 photos, and the form. And of course, most importantly (for them), the $600 check.

Is everybody sending in "relationship evidence" with the N-400?

Edited by Eric-Pris
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: England
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No, I sent exactly what was asked for and nothing else. My interview is next Friday!

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Posted (edited)

Today, I read a post where somebody states that with the N-400, they sent pretty much the same evidence they did with 751 but with one more year of evidence (since the date the 751 was sent out).

Seriously? I thought about including tax transcripts, passport (USC), marraige certificate, 2 photos, and the form. And of course, most importantly (for them), the $600 check.

Is everybody sending in "relationship evidence" with the N-400?

Since you are applying for naturalization based on being married to a USC for at least three years and a LPR for at least three years, they will want to see more of the relationship evidence compared to someone filing after 5 years as a LPR. You are asking for USC based on marriage so they will want to see proof that that marriage is legit and not for the purposes of obtaining USC--same as for AOS and ROC that the marriage is bona fide and not for immigration purposes.

You should send in documents that show that you are both at financial risk should the marriage fail--joint bank accounts, investments, wills, beneficiary on health insurance and life insurance, etc. The closer to the three year mark the more the marriage will be looked at. As you get closer to the five years as a LPR the less emphasis they place on the marriage.

Good luck,

Dave

Edited by Dave&Roza
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Since you are applying for naturalization based on being married to a USC for at least three years and a LPR for at least three years, they will want to see more of the relationship evidence compared to someone filing after 5 years as a LPR. You are asking for USC based on marriage so they will want to see proof that that marriage is legit and not for the purposes of obtaining USC--same as for AOS and ROC that the marriage is bona fide and not for immigration purposes.

You should send in documents that show that you are both at financial risk should the marriage fail--joint bank accounts, investments, wills, beneficiary on health insurance and life insurance, etc. The closer to the three year mark the more the marriage will be looked at. As you get closer to the five years as a LPR the less emphasis they place on the marriage.

Where does the above come from? Holy mackerel.

OP, read the N-400 instructions carefully, interpret them literally, and follow them completely & accurately. "Or" means "or."

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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The closer to the three year mark the more the marriage will be looked at. As you get closer to the five years as a LPR the less emphasis they place on the marriage.

We have been married for 4.5 years. And my wife got her greencard almost 4 years ago. We were in no hurry to apply until now because my wife wants her teenage kids to come over. We are not applying at 3 years and 1 day, so hopefully like you said, it shows that we aren't married just to get the USC.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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even though its not mentioned by name, but I saw many cases put on hold awaiting the applicant to send more evidence to prove legitimate marriage. so YES IT HAPPENS.

Also, after 4.5 years they might not focus on the marriage it self, but do you really know who will interview you? if you do not, then its safer to send all what you can send and sit relaxed rather being worried or questioned or turned away for a further delay.

Good luck

YA ALAH Bless Our Joureny To The End , Ameen

Je T'aime Till My Dying Day

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WEll I applied based on being married to a USC. Married for 7 years already. I only sent what they asked. Husband's birth certificate ( proof that husband is a us citizen), kids birth certificates, marriage certificate. That's it, if they need more evidence they will send rfe. So far, they did not ask anything else.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Pakistan
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I applied based on marriage to a USC and submitted only what was asked for. For me, the heavy weight document is my daughters birth certificate. We have no leases, mortagages, joint bank accounts, insurances, joint pets( God knows how people do that and have the courage to post it). Never had any problems during the AOS or ROC. And I have no intention of taking any extra paper burden for the interview. Only what is asked of me.

IR5 For Parent

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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I applied based on 5 years. I have actually been a GC holder for 9 years. All I sent was N-400, copy of GC and the check. Never was asked for anything more. Had 5 years of transcripts ready and extra passport photos but was never asked for anything during my interview either.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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I only submitted the basics when I sent in the paperwork, but I did bring evidence with me to interview (deeds of house, checkbook in both our names, some receipt for furniture we bought, children's birth cert), and the interviewer not only looked at it but made copies for the file. The lady before me (also applying based on marriage) got refused because she had a child born in the USA during the marriage and did not bring the birth cert- they told her to make another appointment and come back with the birth cert.

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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