Am I Classed As A Naturalized Citizen?

[inneedofhelp 1]

Hello Fellow Members,

I am looking to get myself a FOID card (Firearm Owners Identification Card). On the application it asks if I am a US Citizen or a naturalized citizen. I am currently a green card holder which I obtained late last year (10 year green card) I obviously know that I am not a US Citizen, so am i classed as a naturalized citizen or am I still classed as an alien? There is a box on the form to put in an alien number but on my green card it no longer shows my alien number.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[Oksana & Max 94]

You are an alien. Not sure about where they put this number, may be look at the documentations you filed. It should be there.

[jkelly07 120]

look on you green card it has your alien reg number A........ there has to be a number on the card.

[Leatherneck 693]

You will be a naturalized citizen after you go through the entire process of an approved N-400, citizenship ceremony and or oath taking.

[mari&Ryan 93]

Alien number is on your Green card. it appears as USCIS #

[bigdog 376]

You are LPR.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Your are a "legal permanent resident" or a "resident alien". Your alien number IS on your card in two places. It's on the front listed as USCIS# and also on the back in the shiny section at the top as A#. It is also on your NOA2 from either your approved I-129F or approved I-130. Depends how you got your GC.

You will be a naturalised citizen if/when you file the N-400 to become a US citizen. Technically a US citizen and naturalised citizen are the same thing, both are US citizens... but for the purposes of this form they obviously distinguish between born in the US (US citizen) and having applied for citizenship following being an LPR (naturalised).

[ConcordUser 18]

Can an LPR own a gun or firearm? I thought only Citizens can own them.

[AndyZap 0]

Can an LPR own a gun or firearm? I thought only Citizens can own them.

I think it varies by state, but the 2nd Amendment refers to "the people", not "citizens," so arguably any right to bear arms derived from the 2nd Amendment should apply to all legal residents of the US.

Not that I am a lawyer, or wanting to get into a gun rights argument, but the practice questions for the Civics test includes a question along the lines of "What is one right that applies to all people in the US" and one of the answers is "the right to bear arms."

[NW Mushroom 5]

Don't tick either of those boxes, whatever you do - it could end up barring you from applying for citizenship further down the road.

[aleful 1,905]

Hello Fellow Members,

I am looking to get myself a FOID card (Firearm Owners Identification Card). On the application it asks if I am a US Citizen or a naturalized citizen. I am currently a green card holder which I obtained late last year (10 year green card) I obviously know that I am not a US Citizen, so am i classed as a naturalized citizen or am I still classed as an alien? There is a box on the form to put in an alien number but on my green card it no longer shows my alien number.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

neither, you are a LPR, not a USC. don't check anything that you aren't

[cupoftea 1]

the above repliers all true. and there is an actual question on citizenship application form asks " have you ever claimed to be a U.S citizen( in writing or any other way)?. when you apply for your citizenship.

Edited March 14, 2012 by cupoftea

[Leatherneck 693]

Can an LPR own a gun or firearm? I thought only Citizens can own them.

Under current federal law -- a LPR can purchase and own firearms. Illegal aliens are prohibited from firearm ownership.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,235]

Are you sure that form distinguishes between natural-born and naturalized U.S. citizens? I've never heard of such a thing and I am having a hard time believing this.

Usually, the distinction is made between U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents, a.k.a. Green Card holders. If someone in California wants a gun permit, they have to state whether they are a U.S. citizen or a LPR and the latter ones need to provide a copy of their Green Card with their application.

I second what has been said before. If you mark anything that remotely suggests that you are a U.S. citizen on a form regarding firearms, then this will go into the ATF federal database and at the naturalization stage it will come up during the extensive FBI background check and database search and that's the moment when you committed immigration suicide. "False claim of [uS] citizenship is the worst non-violent crime a foreigner in the U.S. can commit. It's a deportable offense with a lifetime bar attached and no waiver available. It's easy to make a mistake here out of carelessness, one that can change your life forever, which is why I am so interested in the distinction you mentioned.

Any chance you can scan that form or provide a link to it?

[Leatherneck 693]

Are you sure that form distinguishes between natural-born and naturalized U.S. citizens? I've never heard of such a thing and I am having a hard time believing this.

Usually, the distinction is made between U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents, a.k.a. Green Card holders. If someone in California wants a gun permit, they have to state whether they are a U.S. citizen or a LPR and the latter ones need to provide a copy of their Green Card with their application.

I second what has been said before. If you mark anything that remotely suggests that you are a U.S. citizen on a form regarding firearms, then this will go into the ATF federal database and at the naturalization stage it will come up during the extensive FBI background check and database search and that's the moment when you committed immigration suicide. "False claim of [uS] citizenship is the worst non-violent crime a foreigner in the U.S. can commit. It's a deportable offense with a lifetime bar attached and no waiver available. It's easy to make a mistake here out of carelessness, one that can change your life forever, which is why I am so interested in the distinction you mentioned.

Any chance you can scan that form or provide a link to it?

Here

Edited March 15, 2012 by Leatherneck