plane tickets????

[oceanshark 2]

my fiance liu is concerned becasue when i flew to china in september, i used my itineraries for going through customs and to the planes. i asked for a paper ticket and was denied times two./we are filing for a k1.i am going back to shiyan in ealry january. she swears, "other" finaces are able to get actuall tickets, why cant i?? i will ask at airports i am in but how important is an actual tickets versus an electronic itinerary???please help:-) thanks....toddps....great site

[baron555 934]

my fiance liu is concerned becasue when i flew to china in september, i used my itineraries for going through customs and to the planes. i asked for a paper ticket and was denied times two./we are filing for a k1.i am going back to shiyan in ealry january. she swears, "other" finaces are able to get actuall tickets, why cant i?? i will ask at airports i am in but how important is an actual tickets versus an electronic itinerary???please help:-) thanks....toddps....great site

Tickets and itineraries are useless. Passport stamps and stamped boarding pass stubs are number one.

[Sra Gomez 9]

my fiance liu is concerned becasue when i flew to china in september, i used my itineraries for going through customs and to the planes. i asked for a paper ticket and was denied times two./we are filing for a k1.i am going back to shiyan in ealry january. she swears, "other" finaces are able to get actuall tickets, why cant i?? i will ask at airports i am in but how important is an actual tickets versus an electronic itinerary???please help:-) thanks....toddps....great site

Electronic itineraries are just as good as a ticket when it comes to evidence for the relationship. Good luck on your journey.

[TimJay 0]

I think perhaps the "paper ticket" is your boarding pass stub. I flew with Delta and China airlines and that is what I was given.

[Anh map 2,098]

Boarding passes and passport stamps prove that you were there (on the plane and in country). Itinerary proves nothing.

[Afrikan Queen 11]

my fiance liu is concerned becasue when i flew to china in september, i used my itineraries for going through customs and to the planes. i asked for a paper ticket and was denied times two./we are filing for a k1.i am going back to shiyan in ealry january. she swears, "other" finaces are able to get actuall tickets, why cant i?? i will ask at airports i am in but how important is an actual tickets versus an electronic itinerary???please help:-) thanks....toddps....great site

Some airlines only give e-tickets. An itinerary show that you paid for the ticket and your passport stamps proves your departure and arrival destinations. These should be enough supporting evidence.

[pushbrk 13,413]

Electronic itineraries are just as good as a ticket when it comes to evidence for the relationship. Good luck on your journey.

Absolutely not. You can have an itinerary without making a trip. Passport stamps or boarding passes are accepted evidence of actual travel. Paper tickets are not as if you use them, they are gone. Only the remaining boarding pass is evidence. If you lose or discard your boarding passes, use color copies of the passport stamps.

Further, "buying a ticket" is not evidence of travel, so don't be thinking of using receipts for airline tickets. Receipts for purchases with YOUR credit card in the fiancee's country are good, as are ATM receipts. They show you were actually THERE.

Some airlines only give e-tickets. An itinerary show that you paid for the ticket and your passport stamps proves your departure and arrival destinations. These should be enough supporting evidence.

Passport stamps, yes. Itineraries no. Forget about "tickets". It's "boarding passes" that count.

Edited November 4, 2010 by pushbrk

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Absolutely not. You can have an itinerary without making a trip. Passport stamps or boarding passes are accepted evidence of actual travel. Paper tickets are not as if you use them, they are gone. Only the remaining boarding pass is evidence. If you lose or discard your boarding passes, use color copies of the passport stamps.

Further, "buying a ticket" is not evidence of travel, so don't be thinking of using receipts for airline tickets. Receipts for purchases with YOUR credit card in the fiancee's country are good, as are ATM receipts. They show you were actually THERE.

Passport stamps, yes. Itineraries no. Forget about "tickets". It's "boarding passes" that count.

[MochiKamo 93]

Absolutely not. You can have an itinerary without making a trip. Passport stamps or boarding passes are accepted evidence of actual travel. Paper tickets are not as if you use them, they are gone. Only the remaining boarding pass is evidence. If you lose or discard your boarding passes, use color copies of the passport stamps.

Further, "buying a ticket" is not evidence of travel, so don't be thinking of using receipts for airline tickets. Receipts for purchases with YOUR credit card in the fiancee's country are good, as are ATM receipts. They show you were actually THERE.

Passport stamps, yes. Itineraries no. Forget about "tickets". It's "boarding passes" that count.

Exactly this.

I may have gone a bit overboard, but his is what I included:

1. Passport with 10+ visa stamps

2. 10+ boarding passes

3. Her passport with 3 US visa stamps

4. Her boarding passes

5. Receipts with my name and signature in Tokyo,etc

6. ATM withdrawal slips

7. Train tickets with my name on them (JR pass,etc)

[Armenia 18]

Passport stamps, yes. Itineraries no. Forget about "tickets". It's "boarding passes" that count.

Sometimes the boarding pass is not returned to the passenger, not even the small portion that should be torn off. Sometimes the boarding pass does not even have that small portion to be torn off.

In this case, would the e-ticket + printout of the passenger's airline rewards/frequent flyers program history (shows the flight confirmation code) be an adequate substitute for the missing boarding pass? After all, those miles will not be credited to the rewards/frequent flyers program if the passenger did not board the plane.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Sometimes the boarding pass is not returned to the passenger, not even the small portion that should be torn off. Sometimes the boarding pass does not even have that small portion to be torn off.

In this case, would the e-ticket + printout of the passenger's airline rewards/frequent flyers program history (shows the flight confirmation code) be an adequate substitute for the missing boarding pass? After all, those miles will not be credited to the rewards/frequent flyers program if the passenger did not board the plane.

No. But it doesn't matter. NO ONE cares HOW you get there. You can walk or swim, it is perfectly acceptable. Passport stamps prove you were there and pretty much trump anything else. You can also show receipts for things while there.

You basically describe how you met, and then give PLAUSIBLE primary and secondary evidence that you were there. If you say you met your fiancee in Prague on September 19, then you have to show you were IN Prague on September 19 and so was SHE (if she does not live there) A POE stamp to CZ Republic and an exit stamp indicating you WERE in CZ Republic at that time and a photo of the two of you together (and the two people look like they are the same people as the passport type photos also submitted) and that is good enough. It is not a criminal trial, it is a petition. You need to establish you meet the criteria for a PETITION to be approved. A petition is just a request to apply for a visa, it is asking permission to ask permission, it is not a visa. It is not a green card. Each of those things require their own (and more extensive) evidence. It really is not all that difficult to get a petition approved. You will look high and low to find anyone who has a petition DENIED and then usually because they have not met in person and thought they were special (they aren't)

Meeting, shaking hands and smiling for a photo MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS. There is no need for 4 dozen photos, or even 4 photos. Not that it is a bad thing, just not necessary. You only have to show you met at least ONCE.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Exactly this.

I may have gone a bit overboard, but his is what I included:

1. Passport with 10+ visa stamps

2. 10+ boarding passes

3. Her passport with 3 US visa stamps

4. Her boarding passes

5. Receipts with my name and signature in Tokyo,etc

6. ATM withdrawal slips

7. Train tickets with my name on them (JR pass,etc)

OK so as John "Pondoro" Taylor said "It is far better to be caught slightly over-gunned than to be stomped to bits by an elephant"

I sent copies of boarding passes, passport stamps and ONE photo. No RFE.

[C and Lore 3]

I know I may be beating a 'dead horse' but when I submitted mine I sent

Two boarding passes (paper) one from Ft. Lauderdale to Cleveland the other Miami to Seattle. Both boarding passes show both of our names as she was here. Would one think this is ok.

I also sent all of the pages in my passport as proof of US citizenship, which has my two stamps of visiting Argentina, plus the new 'visa' that Argentina requires of US citizens.

Would one think this is ok?

Sorry for being redundant. But its better to be overly prepared than underprepared.

[Casprd 167]

A POE stamp to CZ Republic and an exit stamp indicating you WERE in CZ Republic

I know that CZ is just used as an example, but if it is a Schengen country like CZ and you are coming from the US, you won't have a POE stamp or an exit stamp from CZ. Only from your entry and exit points in Europe. In our case, I didn't bother to keep the boarding passes for most of the trips, but I do have the entry and exit stamps for China, pictures of us together in China and copies of the receipts for things we did together while we were there. I would disagree that copies of the receipts from the airlines are useless. They do serve as secondary evidence, but I would agree that you will need more than just that and the main thing will be the entry visas and the passport stamps.

[newlyweds2010 208]

I've never really understood why passport stamps and boarding passes are considered so important. What do they prove? Surely not that the couple met, because one could have gone to the other's country for whatever reason, not necessarily to spend time together. I'm not saying that you shouldn't enclose them as evidence, on the contrary copy them and put them in the envelope if that's what they want, we did it too and everything went smooth and without any problems. I'm just curious.