My K1 Visa rejected - will return back to u.s.

[rakkaus 0]

I'm only sorry that a most-likely innocent woman will have to suffer through all the lies and deceits.

Don't forget that she lied too, at least according to the OP's statements here.

[kaydee457 13]

I'm very confused here.....Was this petition rejected at interview? Did the fiancée lie too, or just tell the truth about the dates?

I thought I read that the petition was being returned for lack of evidence, and no mention of interview, No?

I'm very confused....Admittedly, I didn't read every single post but it certainly appears we're not getting the whole story here.

[NCWife 0]

Yes, she went for the interview and her K1 visa application was rejected at the consulate in Vietnam so the whole package was sent back to the US again for appealing.

As for me, my confusion is just the dates they were introduced to each other. One post says Dec 2006 and another post says Dec 2004. Not sure which is the truth or which is a lie or a typo mistake......

Edited February 16, 2008 by CL79

[vbtbmrt 2]

Hello all,

I am new on this board. Here is my K1 denied petition issue. Please give me any advice if you can. I was introduced to my fiancee in Vietnam in 2006 but I lied in my petition that I met her in 2004. I have no supporting evidence of the relationship between 2004 to 2006. I have evidence from 2006 until now. So, basically they rejected my application and saying that we lack of evidence since 2004. They want to return my petition back to the u.s. for appealing. They didn't tell me when will they return? I have no clue what to do next?

Any advice here? I did the petition all by myself. I didn't go thru. lawyer or service agent. Now, it is too much trouble and headache for me. Helppp. I wrote a letter to my Senator, do you think they can help out my case?

Thanks all.

says you lied you met her in 2004 in your first post then later on you said you just met her in 2004 but didnt have any feeling for her till 2006. so this is where people dont understand did you meet in 2004 or is it you just lied you met in 2004 i can not blame co for returning your case if you fiancee lied for you also. if it is your tring to de fraud the gov. for immigration purposes you forget how many millions they deal with a year and what they see and can detect as fraud. so if it is legit immigration attorney is your only action to solve the issue they get paid well to lie for you

good luck

[destiny1 0]

Hello all,

I am new on this board. Here is my K1 denied petition issue. Please give me any advice if you can. I was introduced to my fiancee in Vietnam in 2006 but I lied in my petition that I met her in 2004. I have no supporting evidence of the relationship between 2004 to 2006. I have evidence from 2006 until now. So, basically they rejected my application and saying that we lack of evidence since 2004. They want to return my petition back to the u.s. for appealing. They didn't tell me when will they return? I have no clue what to do next?

Any advice here? I did the petition all by myself. I didn't go thru. lawyer or service agent. Now, it is too much trouble and headache for me. Helppp. I wrote a letter to my Senator, do you think they can help out my case?

Thanks all.

im afraid to say you might be rejected but well dont get your hopes down.one of my friends lied about phone calls they ask him about billes or anythings he cold give to prove they were calling each other .he couldnt now he have to wait since SPT.well i wish you good luck.

[DerekJ 0]

Hello all,

I am new on this board. Here is my K1 denied petition issue. Please give me any advice if you can. I was introduced to my fiancee in Vietnam in 2006 but I lied in my petition that I met her in 2004. I have no supporting evidence of the relationship between 2004 to 2006. I have evidence from 2006 until now. So, basically they rejected my application and saying that we lack of evidence since 2004. They want to return my petition back to the u.s. for appealing. They didn't tell me when will they return? I have no clue what to do next?

Any advice here? I did the petition all by myself. I didn't go thru. lawyer or service agent. Now, it is too much trouble and headache for me. Helppp. I wrote a letter to my Senator, do you think they can help out my case?

Thanks all.

says you lied you met her in 2004 in your first post then later on you said you just met her in 2004 but didnt have any feeling for her till 2006. so this is where people dont understand did you meet in 2004 or is it you just lied you met in 2004 i can not blame co for returning your case if you fiancee lied for you also. if it is your tring to de fraud the gov. for immigration purposes you forget how many millions they deal with a year and what they see and can detect as fraud. so if it is legit immigration attorney is your only action to solve the issue they get paid well to lie for you

good luck

From what I gathered, they met in 2004 but lied and said they met in 2006. I'm guessing that either the fiancee told the truth about dates or they both lied and the CO learned about 2004 from something in their paperwork. Regardless, they were sloppy about their application and deserved to have the rejection. I don't get this....just tell the truth and let the facts of your relationship speak for itself. If you don't feel you have enough evidence, wait to file and build your case. This process though long and frustrating is rather easy if you're on the up and up.

[diadromous mermaid 36]

There's no sense going over ground that's already been covered. The OP knows what he did was wrong, and whether the inaccurate data that he shared as background to the relationship is material or not in impacting the future of his petitoin is yet to be seen. Frankly, the rejection memorandum indicates to me, any way, that the CO is dissatisfied with the merits of his current relationship, and while mention is made of the 2004 to 2006 timeframe, there is also mention of an insufficiency of contact between the two after they became engaged. Now on to more constructive comments, no?

If the OP has further evidence available, he should be gathering it together. After consulting with an immigration attorney (if he chooses to do so) he should also go through whatever evidence he has of his last trips to Vietnam. The CO wasn't sure the photographs supplied with his petition indicated anything more than a couple of days visit together. If there have been subsequent trips he should gather that evidence. If there were more examples of the time they spend together, he should assemble that. Any further contact with his betrothed should be done in such a way that it can be demonstrated in the future. He and his fiancé should be documenting their contact, by phone, mail, email or chat at this point. The COs decision may appear to be harsh but sometimes it could be taken as a blessing too. If the OP has only spent a couple of days with this girl, then he really should be thinking that he needs to spend more time with her to be able to better ascertain if they can handle the wrinkles that may lie ahead for them.

Edited February 16, 2008 by diadromous mermaid

[EricC 0]

A side question here. I have tons of evidence (phone records, chats, etc) from my engagement onwards but not much from pre engagement. When I first visited my fiancee she was nothing more than a friend that I wanted to visit. Most of our communication was by phone. I might have a few chat transcripts back then but didn't really save the messages because I didn't think I would need them later on. We didn't really email each other either. The phone card I used was nobelcom and they didn't have call logs (but I did print out my receipts for them but it doesn't really prove that I was calling her with those phone cards). I do have a few receipts from me sending her flowers, or gifts for Christmas and birthdays and other occasions that show it addressed to her. I also have a Christmas card from her, but her names not on it she signed it "Your Honey" and I didn't save the postmarked envelope. When we became engaged I got her a computer so we could chat everyday that way I could save on phone cards. Then I read on visa journey all the proof you would need for bona fide relationship and switched to a phone card that had phone logs (I didn't know it only saved 3 months worth, I tried to print out September and October call logs but they are gone now..d'oh )

Will the photos of us, the passport stamps, the plane stubs, my hotel receipt showing calls made to her, a few chat transcripts, one or two emails, and a ton of phone card receipts be enough proof before engagement? Will they question why so little concrete evidence prior to engagement or will they care more about the tons of evidence I have for after engagement. Just nervous since my interview will probably be in a couple months and I didn't think to save all this stuff in case I married her someday. I don't want them to think we lied like the OP did.

[bakofoil 27]

The embassy are mostly concerned with evidence post-filing. So what you have sounds perfectly fine. The initial application is about providing evidence of meeting, (although it is important to provide some evidence of an on-going relationship at this stage) mostly the rest is secondary during the USCIS stage. At consular stage then you should have photos of your trips and evidence of communication between trips e.g. chat logs, emails, letters and phone bills etc.

The problem the OP had was not so much the fact he lied about the time of their meeting (this appeared to be brushed aside if you read the CO's report) but the fact there was insufficient evidence provided from engagement to interview. The CO states 'a few chat logs'. That was the gripe and this is why everyone has been telling the OP that he still has a chance to salvage things. However, given his inability to stick to one story he would be better advised to get a lawyer to deal with it on his behalf.

Seems a few people are reading this thread and getting panicky. The fact is, it's not that difficult to gather a lot of evidence once you make the decision to file a K1 application (since you know you must!), so the situation the OP found himself in was totally unnecessary. The embassy interview is merely to ascertain that there is an on-going genuine relationship that will result in a marriage. Doesn't sound like you have a problem at all.

Edited February 17, 2008 by babblesgirl

[EricC 0]

Thanks babblesgirl, that makes me feel better. This whole process makes me panicky and stress out

[pushbrk 14,191]

Thanks babblesgirl, that makes me feel better. This whole process makes me panicky and stress out

The OP's problem is he made claims that were false. The Consular Officer can and often does ask for evidence to support any and all claims.

[evanescence 0]

Hi everyone!

After I red all this I started worried for myself .I stated in my K1 application,that my finance and I met 10 years ago.That was true,but we fell in love 2 years ago and decided to get married.I don't have any proof of relationship before that time,but I have 1000 of evidences for the past 2 years.They sent me a RFE requesting for evidence of meeting for the past 2 years,no longer than that.If in the application was a statement said that they need a evidence from the time we met I would not stated that we met 10 year ago,because I can't prove it .

Do you think I have to worry?

[bakofoil 27]

Hi everyone!

After I red all this I started worried for myself .I stated in my K1 application,that my finance and I met 10 years ago.That was true,but we fell in love 2 years ago and decided to get married.I don't have any proof of relationship before that time,but I have 1000 of evidences for the past 2 years.They sent me a RFE requesting for evidence of meeting for the past 2 years,no longer than that.If in the application was a statement said that they need a evidence from the time we met I would not stated that we met 10 year ago,because I can't prove it .

Do you think I have to worry?

They want to see evidence of you having met in person in the past two years - this is a requirement of the I-129F. Did you provide evidence of having visited each other within the last two years of your filing date? Plane tickets, stamps in passports, receipts or bank statements placing you or your fiance in each other's country?

[evanescence 0]

Yes,I think I sent them enough evidence but you never know (( I just have to wait ,but it is killing me (I thought that if USCIS approves your I-129F petition your finance most certainly will get a visa at the Consulate,but after I red all of the above I am scared now:(

Thank you for your respond.

[Jason-Sasha 1]

Dang! You all have ME worried about evidence too now. Great. Our interview is 4 days away and we're both a bit stressed. We have plenty of photos, emails, phone bills, 4 Russian tourist visas, engagement ring, etc. but this thread is creepy. I shouldn't have read it... Well, I'm pretty sure we have enough, actually. But this OP really has problems now. It's a shame. There was no reason to lie. I wish you the best outcome.