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the snowflaking of Trump supporters is more tiresome than that of SJW....don't you know that you have won?

Good to see that someone on the other side has picked up on this.

My grandfather used to tell me that the only thing worse than a sore loser, is a sore winner. Sounds like what's playing out here on VJ.

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Widespread is not the issue, Teddy. Voter fraud is. One incident breaks the law. So do seven cases.As do 30. Read about the issue in Detroit right now. No way of telling for sure, but potentially hundreds or thousands of votes were not legit. To me, that's a problem.

It most certainly is the issue. Don't blow smoke and tell me you're concerned about a handful of fraudulent votes out of hundreds of millions, because you're not and neither is anyone else. A handful of fraudulent votes out of hundreds of millions is not worth spending one minute or one dollar on, let alone the millions that have been wasted on false claims of voter fraud by republicans.

Yeah "potentially", just like all of the other so called "potential" cases that hit the news every election cycle, but not one of them ever pans out. Let me know how you make out with that potential, okay?

Do you realize how low of a percentage of votes cast that voter fraud actually accounts for?

Out of the 197 million votes cast for federal candidates between 2002 and 2005, only 40 voters were indicted for voter fraud, according to a Department of Justice study outlined during a 2006 Congressional hearing. Only 26 of those cases, or about .00000013 percent of the votes cast, resulted in convictions or guilty pleas.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/voter-fraud-real-rare/story?id=17213376

Yeah, we really need to spend more time and money on this non-issue. What foolishness!

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So based on your analysis of the issue, there is nothing wrong with breaking a law. I mean, it is against the law to commit voter fraud, right? So perhaps we should drop it altogether. And while we're at it, let's just ignore the other laws that get broken, eh? Like illegal immigrants sneaking across the border at night. Or the drunk who ran over a baby. Or the guy in Little Rock who got mad, pulled a gun, and ended up killing a kid in the backseat of the car in front of him. I mean, it's not like there are 20 or more people in the past 10 years who have accidentally shot a toddler in a road rage incident, eh?

Anyone who breaks the law deserves to be punished. I don't care if it's one, twenty, or twenty thousand. The real problem that you seem to fail to see, is that the fraud is EASY to commit, and HARD to prove. People here on this site have provided evidence that they could have committed fraud, very easily, but chose not to. Not everyone has the morals that you and the rest of us here do. Heck, I can resister to vote in three states right now, "legally". The only thing stopping me is my moral compass.

No fraud here, just a news snippet that would lead a reasonable person to believe it COULD easily have happened - http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/18/nearly-100-poll-books-in-detroit-missing-for-several-days-documents-show.html

It most certainly is the issue. Don't blow smoke and tell me you're concerned about a handful of fraudulent votes out of hundreds of millions, because you're not and neither is anyone else. A handful of fraudulent votes out of hundreds of millions is not worth spending one minute or one dollar on, let alone the millions that have been wasted on false claims of voter fraud by republicans.

Yeah "potentially", just like all of the other so called "potential" cases that hit the news every election cycle, but not one of them ever pans out. Let me know how you make out with that potential, okay?

Do you realize how low of a percentage of votes cast that voter fraud actually accounts for?

Yeah, we really need to spend more time and money on this non-issue. What foolishness!

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