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Food for thought, for those interested in reading.  It's a couple of years old and is more pertaining to the fee of the N-600, but also talks about WHY one may like to fork over the bucks.  The references are listed and there are a lot of footnotes accompanying the references.  
 
https://www.nyulawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/NYULawReview-Volume-95-Issue-4-Bedoya.pdf
 
 
 

Nope, I read it before I had coffee. 
 
Wonder who missed that with the permanent resident application.  It says he's been an LPR for 2 decades and the arrest was when he was a teenager.  Technically shouldn't have been granted LPR, either.  

Personally I think doing due diligence is important in immigration matters. Why should we as citizens count on our government officials to understand their own rules or even do the right thing? Getting extra documentation is like having an insurance policy.

Food for thought, for those interested in reading.  It's a couple of years old and is more pertaining to the fee of the N-600, but also talks about WHY one may like to fork over the bucks.  The references are listed and there are a lot of footnotes accompanying the references.  
 
https://www.nyulawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/NYULawReview-Volume-95-Issue-4-Bedoya.pdf
 
 
 

If you want to be pedantic, the N-600 results in a CoC, not a CoN.  There are some subtle differences between them.  
 
I also did not say that a minor who turns 18 isn't a valid USC.  However, they do not have any physical proof of such status unless they have a VALID passport and in the event that is stolen, lost or unintentionally expired, they have to try and track down records from the DoS.  How many people here actually find the DoS an easy, simple, fun group to deal with?  
 
If one has access to their parent's CoN, have at 'er.  I'm not saying what's good for the goose is always what's good for the gander.  What I am saying is individual proof, irrespective of what a parent does or does not do, may well be the best course of action to ensure a USC child has what they require.  I'm in the weeds with this right now.  I couldn't imagine having to send my kid my CoN to replace a passport, especially 20 years from now when she's off living her own life.  $1385 to provide her with her own documentation that she can take wherever she goes in the world, independent of myself, was a good investment for our situation.  Same for Kid2.  Now they don't have to worry about where my CoN is and how it pertains to them, ever.  They have their own CoC's and just get on with it.  
 
IIRC your kids have stayed in the US, correct?  My oldest is unlikely to stay.  That one's a global steward, just waiting to leave her mark.  She may return later, but it won't be for a minute and it won't be under this administration.  

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I haven't (yet) heard of anyone on the forum being given an NTA with the pending H1B and a valid I-94.  Maybe others have.  

Thank you.
 
With the help of a strong magnifying glass we retrieved the number. 😀

This official uscis document gives very clear instructions for documentation specific to each situation
 
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/forms/i-130instr.pdf
 
You would do well  to study this carefully. It will answer not only this question but many others , and ensure your application is complete and accurate and less likely to get rejected or receive an RFE 
 
 

For me .. go with the black and white answer. If you sent a document in, take the original and a copy.   Nothing to lose doing so 

Everything you submitted means “everything you submitted “ 
 
They tell you to bring the original documents ( the ones you either copied and mailed in or scanned and submitted electronically) that accompanies your application. ALL 
 
In addition, photocopy each of the originals so that , if they need to retain anything, they will take the copy and return the originals to you. 

If you live close to a Canadian diplomatic mission, you can reach out to them to retain your passport while they renew it.  

Thank you so much for both of your replies. Fingers crossed it all works out - it has been more than a year now. 

I appreciate all of the inputs and debate.  thank you for all the points shared.

It's a wonder I even found this thread. Apparently it's been a very long time since I was here. No point in trying to catch up, but I can let you know where I am at.  I only hope someone remembers me, although I can't say I'd be surprised if not. 
  And I am still here, right where I was the last time I posted.   VA appeal went from the Board of veterans appeals, to the Court of veterans appeals. The board agreed they messed up, and the case was sent back down to the board early this spring for a new decision. Back to standing in what seems to be a never ending queue.     Been an interesting year, kinda sorta. DX'd last year with wet macular degeneration, so I get injections in my eye on average about every month and a half. Woke up the last week of January in a ridiculous amount of  back pain. Couldn't think of a single thing I'd done to earn it, either. After a couple of weeks of waiting it out, gave in and saw the Doc.  Had xrays, an MRI. I didn't have to do anything to earn it, other than getting older. I have a compression fracture and a couple of bulging discs. And osteoporosis. Can't get into a specialist for that until December. The referral to PT was sent, but never arrived, so didn't do the time allotted until June. I really don't think it made a blind bit of difference.   Lost my little dog in May. She had a lot going on; Cushings, tracheal collapse, cognitive disorder, and others. We managed pretty well with meds, until she couldn't figure out the couple of steps at the back door, or the ramps I put in for her, where dinner was. Paced and wandered all night, just like people do when the sun goes down. Didn't seem to know me sometimes, just seemed to lose interest in everything. So, in spite of knowing I would miss her greatly here on my own, I made the decision to do the right thing by her, and call it a day. A month short of seventeen she was. I saved a couple of her  things, and the rest went to a local animal shelter.    So, I am free as a bird. I have been away on a couple of short weekend trips. Next month I am hitting the road for a month. Driving to Vancouver BC to visit with my son. Have a poke around here and there. In October, I am off to London. There is  a little group I went to Uni with still among the quick(ish), so we will have a small 50th reunion.  I want to see the commemorative  poppy display at the Tower of London before it ends in November. I am working under the assumption that I'd better do things whilst I am able.    After that, it's anyone's guess

Well, as a matter of fact, they will be doing BOTH an endoscopy and colonoscopy for me.  I'm just requesting they do the endoscopy first....

The greencards are now said to be taking approximately 120 days.  You can send an inquiry after that time.  
 
Mine took 180 or so days when I entered the US, so sometimes they do take forever.  Your endorsed I-551 in your passport does serve as a temporary greencard for up to a year.  
 
Also, sign up for USPS Informed Delivery if you haven't already.  I knew about our greencards being sent through the app before the tracking showed up in my online profile.  

Please make sure that when you do get your N-400 interview, you request it to be a combo interview with your pending I-751.  Your citizenship cannot be awarded until your conditions are removed.  When you get your combo interview, make sure to take your spouse with you and prepare for both.  

Did you try the Habitat for Humanity?  Sometimes the Restores pick up.  Not positive about the stairs.  Potential second option for what's left.
 
Insurance won't pay for me to get my shingles shot for a couple of more years, despite the fact I've had shingles, the chance of recurrence is high and it was in my eye so the potential for blindness is real!

You're well aware once you turn 18, the parental derived citizenship is no more.  Retaining and keeping a passport valid - most people try, lots of people fail.  The number of people that are in a panic last minute because they didn't bother to check before booking travel astounds me.  The number of people that don't keep digital copies of their documents also kinda makes me shake my head. 
 
The cost of the N-600 is ridiculous, full stop. It makes zero sense, considering the cost of the N-400.  I 100% cannot argue with that.  
 
As for waiting until a kid turns 18 - an example of why we didn't wait was eligibility for certain university scholarships, tuition breaks and now, since Kid1 has chosen to go "home", not having to file for a reentry permit and it's associated cost, or worry about coming back during studies for a naturalization interview, for a swearing in ceremony and then rushing to get a passport so she could return to her studies.  The difference in cost between the I-131 and the N-400 versus the N-600 would have been consumed and then some with all that stress and rigamarole.  

I'd argue the same is true for a naturalization certificate.  Why not just give new citizens a US passport instead of said certificate that essentially sits in a safe?  Alas, that's not how it works.  
 
This is where people run into issues.  They are over 18, don't realize their passport has expired and are out of luck because they have no proof of citizenship.  Simple oversight wreaks havoc.  Or, they decide to go on a beach vacation somewhere in their early 20's and lose their passport abroad.  Now what?  Did they actually order a passport card and keep it in a safe place?  If not...kinda screwed.  Are there ways to potentially prove one had the passport?  Sure, but if you're stuck abroad, do you have that time?  
 
Think of it this way, if your kid lives till they are 80 - $1385/62 = $22.34 per year for reassurance that their status is never in question.  $1.86 a month, less than a cup of coffee and won't ever be subject to fee increases because it's in your child's possession after 18.  The document has no expiration, unlike a passport.  It's cheap insurance, relatively speaking.  

For USPS, it's here: https://www.usps.com/manage/informed-delivery.htm
 
Do you have your state driver's license and social security number?  If you don't have those yet, I'd get them first.  Then, you can reapply for your Canadian passport, making sure you request that the old one be returned to you.  You will then have to carry both until you get your greencard or you can request an appointment to have an ADIT stamp affixed to your new passport, which will take the place of the endorsed MRIV in your expired passport.  
 
Fingers crossed you just get that plastic card sooner than later!  

*shrugs* Not dumb...that's why you come ask on the forum.  Someone inevitably knows something!  

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You're well aware once you turn 18, the parental derived citizenship is no more.  Retaining and keeping a passport valid - most people try, lots of people fail.  The number of people that are in a panic last minute because they didn't bother to check before booking travel astounds me.  The number of people that don't keep digital copies of their documents also kinda makes me shake my head. 
 
The cost of the N-600 is ridiculous, full stop. It makes zero sense, considering the cost of the N-400.  I 100% cannot argue with that.  
 
As for waiting until a kid turns 18 - an example of why we didn't wait was eligibility for certain university scholarships, tuition breaks and now, since Kid1 has chosen to go "home", not having to file for a reentry permit and it's associated cost, or worry about coming back during studies for a naturalization interview, for a swearing in ceremony and then rushing to get a passport so she could return to her studies.  The difference in cost between the I-131 and the N-400 versus the N-600 would have been consumed and then some with all that stress and rigamarole.  

I'd argue the same is true for a naturalization certificate.  Why not just give new citizens a US passport instead of said certificate that essentially sits in a safe?  Alas, that's not how it works.  
 
This is where people run into issues.  They are over 18, don't realize their passport has expired and are out of luck because they have no proof of citizenship.  Simple oversight wreaks havoc.  Or, they decide to go on a beach vacation somewhere in their early 20's and lose their passport abroad.  Now what?  Did they actually order a passport card and keep it in a safe place?  If not...kinda screwed.  Are there ways to potentially prove one had the passport?  Sure, but if you're stuck abroad, do you have that time?  
 
Think of it this way, if your kid lives till they are 80 - $1385/62 = $22.34 per year for reassurance that their status is never in question.  $1.86 a month, less than a cup of coffee and won't ever be subject to fee increases because it's in your child's possession after 18.  The document has no expiration, unlike a passport.  It's cheap insurance, relatively speaking.