speedwell

It also depends on who is filing the I-130 and who the relative is that you are filing for. Both I and srey answered as if you are a US citizen filing for a spouse; all other visa process take longer--in some cases years longer. If you are not a USC and/or you are not filing for a spouse or minor child, you will likely need to wait longer.

Disease organisms don't care about your religious beliefs, and prayer won't help you avoid potentially carrying a disease to someone who can't be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons like a compromised immune system. I hope you understand why you can't refuse to be vaccinated for "moral" reasons, unless your morality stretches to ignoring sensible public health measures. What next, morally object to washing your hands after using the toilet?
I'm sorry if I sound angry. I am angry. I lost a friend who was taking immunosuppressant drugs for rheumatoid arthritis to a rare complication of measles. Before this crazy vaccination resistance started, measles was practically eradicated in her town.

I don't know, coltoasty. It's just a sample. My own number didn't show up for 2 months. If you are worried about your case, you should probably call the USCIS and ask to speak to a Tier 2 person who can see where your case is now.

Disease organisms don't care about your religious beliefs, and prayer won't help you avoid potentially carrying a disease to someone who can't be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons like a compromised immune system. I hope you understand why you can't refuse to be vaccinated for "moral" reasons, unless your morality stretches to ignoring sensible public health measures. What next, morally object to washing your hands after using the toilet?
I'm sorry if I sound angry. I am angry. I lost a friend who was taking immunosuppressant drugs for rheumatoid arthritis to a rare complication of measles. Before this crazy vaccination resistance started, measles was practically eradicated in her town.

Disease organisms don't care about your religious beliefs, and prayer won't help you avoid potentially carrying a disease to someone who can't be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons like a compromised immune system. I hope you understand why you can't refuse to be vaccinated for "moral" reasons, unless your morality stretches to ignoring sensible public health measures. What next, morally object to washing your hands after using the toilet?
I'm sorry if I sound angry. I am angry. I lost a friend who was taking immunosuppressant drugs for rheumatoid arthritis to a rare complication of measles. Before this crazy vaccination resistance started, measles was practically eradicated in her town.

Disease organisms don't care about your religious beliefs, and prayer won't help you avoid potentially carrying a disease to someone who can't be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons like a compromised immune system. I hope you understand why you can't refuse to be vaccinated for "moral" reasons, unless your morality stretches to ignoring sensible public health measures. What next, morally object to washing your hands after using the toilet?
I'm sorry if I sound angry. I am angry. I lost a friend who was taking immunosuppressant drugs for rheumatoid arthritis to a rare complication of measles. Before this crazy vaccination resistance started, measles was practically eradicated in her town.

Disease organisms don't care about your religious beliefs, and prayer won't help you avoid potentially carrying a disease to someone who can't be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons like a compromised immune system. I hope you understand why you can't refuse to be vaccinated for "moral" reasons, unless your morality stretches to ignoring sensible public health measures. What next, morally object to washing your hands after using the toilet?
I'm sorry if I sound angry. I am angry. I lost a friend who was taking immunosuppressant drugs for rheumatoid arthritis to a rare complication of measles. Before this crazy vaccination resistance started, measles was practically eradicated in her town.

Disease organisms don't care about your religious beliefs, and prayer won't help you avoid potentially carrying a disease to someone who can't be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons like a compromised immune system. I hope you understand why you can't refuse to be vaccinated for "moral" reasons, unless your morality stretches to ignoring sensible public health measures. What next, morally object to washing your hands after using the toilet?
I'm sorry if I sound angry. I am angry. I lost a friend who was taking immunosuppressant drugs for rheumatoid arthritis to a rare complication of measles. Before this crazy vaccination resistance started, measles was practically eradicated in her town.

Disease organisms don't care about your religious beliefs, and prayer won't help you avoid potentially carrying a disease to someone who can't be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons like a compromised immune system. I hope you understand why you can't refuse to be vaccinated for "moral" reasons, unless your morality stretches to ignoring sensible public health measures. What next, morally object to washing your hands after using the toilet?
I'm sorry if I sound angry. I am angry. I lost a friend who was taking immunosuppressant drugs for rheumatoid arthritis to a rare complication of measles. Before this crazy vaccination resistance started, measles was practically eradicated in her town.

Disease organisms don't care about your religious beliefs, and prayer won't help you avoid potentially carrying a disease to someone who can't be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons like a compromised immune system. I hope you understand why you can't refuse to be vaccinated for "moral" reasons, unless your morality stretches to ignoring sensible public health measures. What next, morally object to washing your hands after using the toilet?
I'm sorry if I sound angry. I am angry. I lost a friend who was taking immunosuppressant drugs for rheumatoid arthritis to a rare complication of measles. Before this crazy vaccination resistance started, measles was practically eradicated in her town.

Disease organisms don't care about your religious beliefs, and prayer won't help you avoid potentially carrying a disease to someone who can't be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons like a compromised immune system. I hope you understand why you can't refuse to be vaccinated for "moral" reasons, unless your morality stretches to ignoring sensible public health measures. What next, morally object to washing your hands after using the toilet?
I'm sorry if I sound angry. I am angry. I lost a friend who was taking immunosuppressant drugs for rheumatoid arthritis to a rare complication of measles. Before this crazy vaccination resistance started, measles was practically eradicated in her town.

It really is a matter of controlling your blood sugar levels. Your roommate's mother was suffering complications of uncontrolled diabetes. People who control their blood sugar properly using diet, exercise, drugs, and insulin in whatever combination works for them will suffer few if any complications compared to people who fail to control their blood sugar properly. Insulin can be expensive and test strips for glucose meters aren't free, but they are cheap compared to the human cost of suffering when blood sugar isn't regulated. And more and more the drugs and insulin and monitoring equipment are getting increasingly affordable. Some damage from diabetes can even be healed if the diabetic is careful; my diabetic brother actually recovered from peripheral nerve damage when he adjusted his diet, and I personally went from full diagnosed diabetic levels with blood pressure issues to pre-diabetic levels with no blood pressure issues and taken off all drugs. It IS possible and it is less costly than you think these days.
To get back on track, my husband will be on my health insurance (through work, BCBS) when he arrives with his green card in hand. Much as I want to prove we have commingled resources, even he balks at the idea of paying many hundred dollars for US health coverage he is not in a position to use while he is in the UK making use of the healthcare program there.

It really is a matter of controlling your blood sugar levels. Your roommate's mother was suffering complications of uncontrolled diabetes. People who control their blood sugar properly using diet, exercise, drugs, and insulin in whatever combination works for them will suffer few if any complications compared to people who fail to control their blood sugar properly. Insulin can be expensive and test strips for glucose meters aren't free, but they are cheap compared to the human cost of suffering when blood sugar isn't regulated. And more and more the drugs and insulin and monitoring equipment are getting increasingly affordable. Some damage from diabetes can even be healed if the diabetic is careful; my diabetic brother actually recovered from peripheral nerve damage when he adjusted his diet, and I personally went from full diagnosed diabetic levels with blood pressure issues to pre-diabetic levels with no blood pressure issues and taken off all drugs. It IS possible and it is less costly than you think these days.
To get back on track, my husband will be on my health insurance (through work, BCBS) when he arrives with his green card in hand. Much as I want to prove we have commingled resources, even he balks at the idea of paying many hundred dollars for US health coverage he is not in a position to use while he is in the UK making use of the healthcare program there.

It really is a matter of controlling your blood sugar levels. Your roommate's mother was suffering complications of uncontrolled diabetes. People who control their blood sugar properly using diet, exercise, drugs, and insulin in whatever combination works for them will suffer few if any complications compared to people who fail to control their blood sugar properly. Insulin can be expensive and test strips for glucose meters aren't free, but they are cheap compared to the human cost of suffering when blood sugar isn't regulated. And more and more the drugs and insulin and monitoring equipment are getting increasingly affordable. Some damage from diabetes can even be healed if the diabetic is careful; my diabetic brother actually recovered from peripheral nerve damage when he adjusted his diet, and I personally went from full diagnosed diabetic levels with blood pressure issues to pre-diabetic levels with no blood pressure issues and taken off all drugs. It IS possible and it is less costly than you think these days.
To get back on track, my husband will be on my health insurance (through work, BCBS) when he arrives with his green card in hand. Much as I want to prove we have commingled resources, even he balks at the idea of paying many hundred dollars for US health coverage he is not in a position to use while he is in the UK making use of the healthcare program there.

It really is a matter of controlling your blood sugar levels. Your roommate's mother was suffering complications of uncontrolled diabetes. People who control their blood sugar properly using diet, exercise, drugs, and insulin in whatever combination works for them will suffer few if any complications compared to people who fail to control their blood sugar properly. Insulin can be expensive and test strips for glucose meters aren't free, but they are cheap compared to the human cost of suffering when blood sugar isn't regulated. And more and more the drugs and insulin and monitoring equipment are getting increasingly affordable. Some damage from diabetes can even be healed if the diabetic is careful; my diabetic brother actually recovered from peripheral nerve damage when he adjusted his diet, and I personally went from full diagnosed diabetic levels with blood pressure issues to pre-diabetic levels with no blood pressure issues and taken off all drugs. It IS possible and it is less costly than you think these days.
To get back on track, my husband will be on my health insurance (through work, BCBS) when he arrives with his green card in hand. Much as I want to prove we have commingled resources, even he balks at the idea of paying many hundred dollars for US health coverage he is not in a position to use while he is in the UK making use of the healthcare program there.

It really is a matter of controlling your blood sugar levels. Your roommate's mother was suffering complications of uncontrolled diabetes. People who control their blood sugar properly using diet, exercise, drugs, and insulin in whatever combination works for them will suffer few if any complications compared to people who fail to control their blood sugar properly. Insulin can be expensive and test strips for glucose meters aren't free, but they are cheap compared to the human cost of suffering when blood sugar isn't regulated. And more and more the drugs and insulin and monitoring equipment are getting increasingly affordable. Some damage from diabetes can even be healed if the diabetic is careful; my diabetic brother actually recovered from peripheral nerve damage when he adjusted his diet, and I personally went from full diagnosed diabetic levels with blood pressure issues to pre-diabetic levels with no blood pressure issues and taken off all drugs. It IS possible and it is less costly than you think these days.
To get back on track, my husband will be on my health insurance (through work, BCBS) when he arrives with his green card in hand. Much as I want to prove we have commingled resources, even he balks at the idea of paying many hundred dollars for US health coverage he is not in a position to use while he is in the UK making use of the healthcare program there.

It really is a matter of controlling your blood sugar levels. Your roommate's mother was suffering complications of uncontrolled diabetes. People who control their blood sugar properly using diet, exercise, drugs, and insulin in whatever combination works for them will suffer few if any complications compared to people who fail to control their blood sugar properly. Insulin can be expensive and test strips for glucose meters aren't free, but they are cheap compared to the human cost of suffering when blood sugar isn't regulated. And more and more the drugs and insulin and monitoring equipment are getting increasingly affordable. Some damage from diabetes can even be healed if the diabetic is careful; my diabetic brother actually recovered from peripheral nerve damage when he adjusted his diet, and I personally went from full diagnosed diabetic levels with blood pressure issues to pre-diabetic levels with no blood pressure issues and taken off all drugs. It IS possible and it is less costly than you think these days.
To get back on track, my husband will be on my health insurance (through work, BCBS) when he arrives with his green card in hand. Much as I want to prove we have commingled resources, even he balks at the idea of paying many hundred dollars for US health coverage he is not in a position to use while he is in the UK making use of the healthcare program there.

God, if only. They'll never do it for the I-130 because that is for proving a legit relationship even exists and you're not just trying to gain entrance to the country. I think they should do it after the I-130 is approved, though, because at that point they are satisfied that you really do have a relationship and why in the name of humanity would they force you to be separated after that point?

To Darnell,
This is one of the 'up-dates' I wanted to discuss in my PM to you. Since this specific topic came up here. I will talk about it here. However, I think the word needs to get out so I think it may be more appropriate in another thread. Or, if I may say very humbly, perhaps you may consider to add it (at least in a foot-note) in your NVC guide. I think in your case you were as studious and ####### as I have been in our case I know you will understand me completely when I say we have called NVC enough times that you have a sense from the conversation whether you're talking with an operator or supervisor who truly competent, knows their job and the ins and outs of the process or whether you're talking with someone who really doesn't give a damn and is just going through the motions and quickly giving generic answers. Additionally you can sometimes tell the agent's proficiency by how matter-of-fact and detailed the forthcoming answer is. or whether you hear them clicking away on their computer trying to find an answer. (You know what I'm talking about Darnell!!!!). Anyway, I would like to contribute to the awesome work you have done here and would like to provide an update regarding this topic.
To Everyone:
Since I'm in a legitimate process for my wife, I have used the opportunity to call NVC multiple times... not only for our case... but also to do random questioning to collect information to provide here. The specific question of 'front loading' at USCIS and whether ALL of it gets sent to NVC, was a specific topic I really concentrated on a lot. Regarding this, I made multiple calls on it and took a detailed survey of answers. I will add that most of my questions about this was directly to supervisors and I was also fortunate to get a few who really knew their stuff even specifically about China and the recent infancy of the electronic process.
Here are the results of my investigation:
NVC DOES NOT always or necessarily get everything that you may have front loaded at USCIS. Many times, they get as little as only the I-130 / G325A (x2) / Proof of US Citizenship docs / Proof of Marriageability.
The majority consensus of NVC supervisors is that they often don't get all the proof of bona fide marriage stuff that was submitted to USCIS. This seems to be a random thing and I believe easily comes down to one simple thing... it depends on the person who happens to prepare the file to be sent to NVC. Some include all / many don't include more than the bare minimum required to send to NVC.
HOWEVER!!!!!!!!! The good news is (and I did confirm multiple times):
You CAN 'front load' again to NVC -AND- NVC DOES accept and forward to the consulate ALL things sent to them by the petitioner and beneficiary. As you know, NVC is ####### in every document (and on the DOS site)... NOT to send anything before being asked to do so. (They 'say' this all over the place). SO, equally, I did a random survey with various supervisors to get input on WHEN in the NVC process would be the appropriate time to send additional supporting documents and proofs of bona fide marriage / relationship. The overwhelming consensus to that question was as follows:

1)
When sending the beneficiary's / applicant's DS-230 is the best and most appropriate time to send in (or email... if your in the electronic process) any additional documents. This is the best timing to use to ensure ALL things will be forwarded to the consulate when the case is closed.
BUT, if you missed that chance it's not too late:

2)
NVC will continue to accept material / emails even after the case has been forwarded to the Consulate and they will forward it. However, I would strongly suggest this only be done by people in the electronic processing simply because of timing issues (i.e. if you thought of something you want to send or add, it can be done instantly with email. -versus- Sending it by post... who knows when it will reach the Consulate).
For those processing through the GUZ / GZO (Guangzhou) Consulate:

3)
Another option (if your case has already been sent to the Consulate) is to send your things directly to the consulate. The correct email address to send your things for the best possible chance for it to reach the VO is:
NVCguangzhou@state.gov
BE AWARE of two important things:
1) Sending the additional front loading material with the DS-230 means there is that much more to review by NVC = may or probably will take longer to complete the review = may take longer for you to get the next communication. In my opinion, even if it takes a little longer for the review to be completed, it's still totally worth it. As is described in many posts, it all comes down to the VO that you have. So, rather than running into one that won't accept looking at anything (supporting evidence), I think it's much wiser to take every opportunity to get things into the consulate's hands BEFORE the interview.
2) If you forgot to send something after the case has been forwarded to the consulate by NVC -or- you remembered something pertinent that you want to add. Try to send it as soon as possible soon after NVC has closed the case and forwarded it. BECAUSE, although NVC will still forward things to the consulate. They CAN'T guarantee it will reach the VO prior to the interview date. So, if you forgot something... send it immediately!!
Hope this information will enlighten and benefit everyone and help shed some more specific light on this topic. I think it's an extremely important one.
Best of Luck and Blessings,
~Bleauwolf

The DCF petitions are treated very differently. From all indications those of us residing in non-DCF countries are remaining at NBC to be processed.

Well said, you're absolutely right. That's very reassuring to me because I am just a ball of stress right now. Many thanks.