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I am a U.S.-born citizen, and I previously filed an I-130 petition for my ex-spouse (a foreign national) several years ago. We divorced before the petition was fully processed, and I never received a final decision from USCIS—I'm not sure if it was approved, denied, or if there was any finding of marriage fraud under INA 204(c). I didn't pursue it further after the divorce.
Now, I am remarried to a new spouse (also a foreign national), and I want to file a new I-130 petition for them. My question is: Does INA 204(c) or any prior marriage issue automatically prohibit me, as the U.S. citizen petitioner, from filing and getting approval for petitions for future spouses? Specifically, since I don't know the outcome of the previous petition, could there be a hidden fraud bar that affects my ability to petition now? If there was no explicit fraud finding, can I proceed normally? I am confused that the internet has mixed responses where its saying that the previous alien would be banned and not the US citizen from filing petitions.
Thank you!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Welcome to the forum!

 

Others' advice here may differ from mine, which follows:

 

The key question is, did you write USCIS to withdraw the previous petition?  It sounds like you didn't.

If this petition was approved and no one followed up (setting a consular interview for a visa, e.g.), it eventually died.

 

Contact your U.S. Congressman's D.C. office and work with the "immigration liaison" there.  That liaison can probably learn from USCIS if anything became of the earlier petition.

 

Why are you concerned about a finding of fraud?

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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@TBoneTX No, I never wrote to USCIS about previous petition because I never thought Ill get married again. I am pretty sure it never got approved because I didnt look into the process at all and Im not sure of submitting important stuff which makes me think it mightve lead to fraud or something given we never replied to uscis or cared to look into it because we were going through a divorce.

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43 minutes ago, mark1212 said:

@TBoneTX No, I never wrote to USCIS about previous petition because I never thought Ill get married again. I am pretty sure it never got approved because I didnt look into the process at all and Im not sure of submitting important stuff which makes me think it mightve lead to fraud or something given we never replied to uscis or cared to look into it because we were going through a divorce.


That still isn’t telling us why you think fraud might be an issue though? When you say you ‘never replied to USCIS’, about what? What did they contact you about? Normally you don’t get anything from them until it’s an approval or denial. 
 

So did they send you a notice saying they intended to deny your application unless you could send more evidence of something? 
 

If you check the status of the petition now, what does it say? 

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6 hours ago, appleblossom said:


That still isn’t telling us why you think fraud might be an issue though? When you say you ‘never replied to USCIS’, about what? What did they contact you about? Normally you don’t get anything from them until it’s an approval or denial. 
 

So did they send you a notice saying they intended to deny your application unless you could send more evidence of something? 
 

If you check the status of the petition now, what does it say? 

@appleblossom sorry for my wording, I meant to say that I never looked into the process again, changed my address so never got any receipt number or anything and basically completely neglected it. By not replying them I mean if they had sent me any docs for RFE or interview I would not know that at all.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Morocco
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if never received a notice that case was approved at USCIS stage,  you can check it there

 

If it was sent on to NVC and you received the embassy number,  check it here

note that if you never went thru with the I 184 and ds 260 at this stage,  the petition would have died 

 

https://egov.uscis.gov/

 

with your new I 130,  send a notice that you are cancelling the other petition as there was a divorce, send copy (not original) of the divorce papers

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
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 You can expect a bit more looking at your relationship if you are a serial petitioner.  Time between marriages helps.  I had 19 years between mine.  There used to be a number of people known to me that made a living off green card marrying.  Automation has ended that nonsense. Make sure to close out the old case before you file anything new.  When I filed the second time there was a requirement to explain prior filings when filing the new one in the form of a waiver for multiple filings.  but I was doing the fiancé petition at the time.  Make sure the new wife knows about the prior filing so she doesn't get the deer in the headlights response if it is brought up during her interview.  

This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this.

Filed: Other Country: China
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8 hours ago, mark1212 said:

@appleblossom sorry for my wording, I meant to say that I never looked into the process again, changed my address so never got any receipt number or anything and basically completely neglecad ted it. By not replying them I mean if they had sent me any docs for RFE or interview I would not know that at all.

If you never got a receipt notice with a case number, there would be no way for you to check on the outcome.  The I-130 you now want to file will ask if you ever filed a petition for anybody else, and the result.  You can answer with the where, who, and when, and indicated you divorced and the result of the petition filing is unknown.

 

You've been asked at least twice already why you mentioned marriage fraud.  Why did that even come to your mind to mention.  That is the only potential problem I see with the new petition.

 

Another question.  Was the former spouse in the USA when you filed?  How about the current spouse.  In the USA, or what country?  What country of citizenship for the former spouse you filed for?  These are highly relevant issues.  You cannot receive reliable advice here without answering directly.

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