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Hi friends,

 

wanted to get your thoughts on the outcome of my interview yesterday. Here’s a brief summary:

 

arrived just before the appointment time but waited about 45 minutes to be called as my officer was behind on schedule.

 

Passed the civics and English tests.

she asked about violations of law, I asked if a small car accident counts. She said that doesn’t matter.
 

Then she asked about my previous marriage date, divorce date. ( I’m 5 year rule, divorced 8 months after I751 approval. Divorce took 2 months) she was surprised my divorce was this quick and asked me again to make sure we didn’t initiate divorce in the previous year. I said no it only took two months to finalize after the initiation of divorce. She also said that she doesn’t want to be intrusive but did ask why we divorced. I said we grew apart and the pandemic put a strain on the relationship. She said ok that’s sufficient. During this time she was checking on her computer a lot, she also had my whole A file, was looking at my I 751, and she typed a lot on the computer.

 

then she moved on to ask some other yes/no questions, and asked me to sign on iPad as well as on a piece of paper. 


Lastly she gave me the interview results: she checked passed the test, and decision cannot be made.

 

she said the reason she checked that is because I have to come back for my oath. She reminded me I have to bring oath letter and green card to the ceremony. And she said it twice. She also said she doesn’t need anything else from me.
 

Then she was clicking a lot on her computer and said: I’m behind on schedule, my next interviewee is already here but I just want to finish your case. And she clicked more. After that she walked me out of their office. 
 

This whole thing took about 20 minutes. My lawyer wasn’t there but he thinks the whole thing went as expected. And there’s nothing wrong with my divorce timeline. 
 

but I’m just confused, and perhaps bummed too that she said decision cannot be made because I have to come back for the ceremony??? Like couldn’t she just checked the “congratulations” box? 
 

I guess I was hoping to get approved on the spot and at least placed in line for oath.

 

but do y’all think?

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N400 Timeline, 5 year rule

FO: Washington DC (Fairfax, VA)

 

2/9/23 Sent application by Mail

2/13/23 USCIS Received

2/16/23 USCIS NOA1 date and sent the mail

2/16/23 USCIS NOA2 and sent mail with online access code

2/18/23 USCIS Scheduled for bio appointment and sent letter

2/24/23 Received NOA1 and NOA2 in the mail

2/25/23 Received Bio appointment letter in the mail

3/9/23  Bio Appointment

3/9/23 Online Update: Case is actively reviewed by USCIS

7/20/23 Case placed in queue for an interview to be scheduled

7/26/23 Interview Scheduled

9/1/23 Interview, decision cannot be made

9/7/23 Recommended for approval; Oath ceremony will be scheduled

9/8/23 Oath ceremony scheduled

9/22/23 Oath Ceremony

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12 minutes ago, aperson said:

Hi friends,

 

wanted to get your thoughts on the outcome of my interview yesterday. Here’s a brief summary:

 

arrived just before the appointment time but waited about 45 minutes to be called as my officer was behind on schedule.

 

Passed the civics and English tests.

she asked about violations of law, I asked if a small car accident counts. She said that doesn’t matter.
 

Then she asked about my previous marriage date, divorce date. ( I’m 5 year rule, divorced 8 months after I751 approval. Divorce took 2 months) she was surprised my divorce was this quick and asked me again to make sure we didn’t initiate divorce in the previous year. I said no it only took two months to finalize after the initiation of divorce. She also said that she doesn’t want to be intrusive but did ask why we divorced. I said we grew apart and the pandemic put a strain on the relationship. She said ok that’s sufficient. During this time she was checking on her computer a lot, she also had my whole A file, was looking at my I 751, and she typed a lot on the computer.

 

then she moved on to ask some other yes/no questions, and asked me to sign on iPad as well as on a piece of paper. 


Lastly she gave me the interview results: she checked passed the test, and decision cannot be made.

 

she said the reason she checked that is because I have to come back for my oath. She reminded me I have to bring oath letter and green card to the ceremony. And she said it twice. She also said she doesn’t need anything else from me.
 

Then she was clicking a lot on her computer and said: I’m behind on schedule, my next interviewee is already here but I just want to finish your case. And she clicked more. After that she walked me out of their office. 
 

This whole thing took about 20 minutes. My lawyer wasn’t there but he thinks the whole thing went as expected. And there’s nothing wrong with my divorce timeline. 
 

but I’m just confused, and perhaps bummed too that she said decision cannot be made because I have to come back for the ceremony??? Like couldn’t she just checked the “congratulations” box? 
 

I guess I was hoping to get approved on the spot and at least placed in line for oath.

 

but do y’all think?

You raised a few points which somehow answer the question to your worry. Decision was not reached because she wants to do further background check with regards to your marriage. Don’t be surprised if they reach out to your ex spouse. She mentioned to make sure you did not initiate divorce before your i751 etc. Just hang tight and wait to hear from them.

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Just now, mniceguy16 said:

You raised a few points which somehow answer the question to your worry. Decision was not reached because she wants to do further background check with regards to your marriage. Don’t be surprised if they reach out to your ex spouse. She mentioned to make sure you did not initiate divorce before your i751 etc. Just hang tight and wait to hear from them.

Ugh what? USCIS would reach out to my ex? What if he doesn’t have nice things to say about me?

N400 Timeline, 5 year rule

FO: Washington DC (Fairfax, VA)

 

2/9/23 Sent application by Mail

2/13/23 USCIS Received

2/16/23 USCIS NOA1 date and sent the mail

2/16/23 USCIS NOA2 and sent mail with online access code

2/18/23 USCIS Scheduled for bio appointment and sent letter

2/24/23 Received NOA1 and NOA2 in the mail

2/25/23 Received Bio appointment letter in the mail

3/9/23  Bio Appointment

3/9/23 Online Update: Case is actively reviewed by USCIS

7/20/23 Case placed in queue for an interview to be scheduled

7/26/23 Interview Scheduled

9/1/23 Interview, decision cannot be made

9/7/23 Recommended for approval; Oath ceremony will be scheduled

9/8/23 Oath ceremony scheduled

9/22/23 Oath Ceremony

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23 minutes ago, aperson said:

Ugh what? USCIS would reach out to my ex? What if he doesn’t have nice things to say about me?

Pretty obvious:   you removed conditions on a marriage- based green card, and then divorced immediately.   Of course they have questions about that!

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41 minutes ago, aperson said:

Then she was clicking a lot on her computer and said: I’m behind on schedule, my next interviewee is already here but I just want to finish your case. And she clicked more. After that she walked me out of their office. 

 

That is the reason she said a decision cannot be made at this time.  She wants to look over the paperwork because she was in a rush.  I wouldn't worry.  Just watch the USCIS status. 

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

 

 

That is the reason she said a decision cannot be made at this time.  She wants to look over the paperwork because she was in a rush.  I wouldn't worry.  Just watch the USCIS status. 

Got it, thanks!

N400 Timeline, 5 year rule

FO: Washington DC (Fairfax, VA)

 

2/9/23 Sent application by Mail

2/13/23 USCIS Received

2/16/23 USCIS NOA1 date and sent the mail

2/16/23 USCIS NOA2 and sent mail with online access code

2/18/23 USCIS Scheduled for bio appointment and sent letter

2/24/23 Received NOA1 and NOA2 in the mail

2/25/23 Received Bio appointment letter in the mail

3/9/23  Bio Appointment

3/9/23 Online Update: Case is actively reviewed by USCIS

7/20/23 Case placed in queue for an interview to be scheduled

7/26/23 Interview Scheduled

9/1/23 Interview, decision cannot be made

9/7/23 Recommended for approval; Oath ceremony will be scheduled

9/8/23 Oath ceremony scheduled

9/22/23 Oath Ceremony

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12 minutes ago, SalishSea said:

Pretty obvious:   you removed conditions on a marriage- based green card, and then divorced immediately.   Of course they have questions about that!

I mean not immediately but ok I get your point

N400 Timeline, 5 year rule

FO: Washington DC (Fairfax, VA)

 

2/9/23 Sent application by Mail

2/13/23 USCIS Received

2/16/23 USCIS NOA1 date and sent the mail

2/16/23 USCIS NOA2 and sent mail with online access code

2/18/23 USCIS Scheduled for bio appointment and sent letter

2/24/23 Received NOA1 and NOA2 in the mail

2/25/23 Received Bio appointment letter in the mail

3/9/23  Bio Appointment

3/9/23 Online Update: Case is actively reviewed by USCIS

7/20/23 Case placed in queue for an interview to be scheduled

7/26/23 Interview Scheduled

9/1/23 Interview, decision cannot be made

9/7/23 Recommended for approval; Oath ceremony will be scheduled

9/8/23 Oath ceremony scheduled

9/22/23 Oath Ceremony

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Most IOs are not authorized to approve/deny on their own & need their supervisor to finalize the decision. Sounds like a routine interview.

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Much ado about nothing in my opinion, most likely she just wants to get her supervisors approval.

Just another random guy from the internet with an opinion, although usually backed by data!


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Update: Account just updated to “oath ceremony will be scheduled.”

N400 Timeline, 5 year rule

FO: Washington DC (Fairfax, VA)

 

2/9/23 Sent application by Mail

2/13/23 USCIS Received

2/16/23 USCIS NOA1 date and sent the mail

2/16/23 USCIS NOA2 and sent mail with online access code

2/18/23 USCIS Scheduled for bio appointment and sent letter

2/24/23 Received NOA1 and NOA2 in the mail

2/25/23 Received Bio appointment letter in the mail

3/9/23  Bio Appointment

3/9/23 Online Update: Case is actively reviewed by USCIS

7/20/23 Case placed in queue for an interview to be scheduled

7/26/23 Interview Scheduled

9/1/23 Interview, decision cannot be made

9/7/23 Recommended for approval; Oath ceremony will be scheduled

9/8/23 Oath ceremony scheduled

9/22/23 Oath Ceremony

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3 minutes ago, aperson said:

Update: Account just updated to “oath ceremony will be scheduled.”

Congratulations!!!!   I guess the officer was just busy that day.....

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Just now, Crazy Cat said:

Congratulations!!!!   I guess the officer was just busy that day.....

Thank you!!

N400 Timeline, 5 year rule

FO: Washington DC (Fairfax, VA)

 

2/9/23 Sent application by Mail

2/13/23 USCIS Received

2/16/23 USCIS NOA1 date and sent the mail

2/16/23 USCIS NOA2 and sent mail with online access code

2/18/23 USCIS Scheduled for bio appointment and sent letter

2/24/23 Received NOA1 and NOA2 in the mail

2/25/23 Received Bio appointment letter in the mail

3/9/23  Bio Appointment

3/9/23 Online Update: Case is actively reviewed by USCIS

7/20/23 Case placed in queue for an interview to be scheduled

7/26/23 Interview Scheduled

9/1/23 Interview, decision cannot be made

9/7/23 Recommended for approval; Oath ceremony will be scheduled

9/8/23 Oath ceremony scheduled

9/22/23 Oath Ceremony

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On 9/2/2023 at 4:41 PM, mniceguy16 said:

You raised a few points which somehow answer the question to your worry. Decision was not reached because she wants to do further background check with regards to your marriage. Don’t be surprised if they reach out to your ex spouse. She mentioned to make sure you did not initiate divorce before your i751 etc. Just hang tight and wait to hear from them.

Let's just not create speculation with things that you aren't sure if this is certainly going to happen or may happen. In regards of contacting EXs, USCIS don't take that route. Of course an Ex would definitely deliver negative stuff about his or her previous spouse. to check the exact date of divorce filing, they can contact a court. Why would USCIS needs to contact EX, it doesn't make sense at all.

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On 9/7/2023 at 1:24 PM, aperson said:

Thank you!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!. BTW i am september filers and was sniffing around in other months and saw your post. I hope your Ex never contacted you that USCIS contact him lol. kidding!!!! get the passport asap and get over with.

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