Can't leave the Philippines due to Shut Down

[Prisonmate 93]

Totally agreedmwntt with Apellica.

 

" I know it’s a selfish thing for me to say, but I am so sick of these travel bans.  The travel bans are only delaying the inevitable....the virus is already here and we can’t stay lockdown forever, especially when a vaccine is a long ways away.

Wearing protective gear, maintaining good hygiene, and eating healthy is your best defense against this virus.   Most people are recovering, but the media will tell you otherwise and declare doomsday."

 

It's like Martial Law in Cebu now. You can't travel from one city limit to another city without a special pass. There are police and military at the check points. The working poor will be dying from hunger and other sickness before they will ever catch the virus. The USA has the most cases and deaths now in the world. I think China is #9 in most cases and deaths.

 

I can see Philippines  extending it again until end of May or later. 

[NoMansLand2020 298]

1 hour ago, Prisonmate said:

Totally agreedmwntt with Apellica.

 

" I know it’s a selfish thing for me to say, but I am so sick of these travel bans.  The travel bans are only delaying the inevitable....the virus is already here and we can’t stay lockdown forever, especially when a vaccine is a long ways away.

Wearing protective gear, maintaining good hygiene, and eating healthy is your best defense against this virus.   Most people are recovering, but the media will tell you otherwise and declare doomsday."

 

It's like Martial Law in Cebu now. You can't travel from one city limit to another city without a special pass. There are police and military at the check points. The working poor will be dying from hunger and other sickness before they will ever catch the virus. The USA has the most cases and deaths now in the world. I think China is #9 in most cases and deaths.

 

I can see Philippines  extending it again until end of May or later. 

It's like that in Mindanao where my fiance is. USEM is now closed until June. 

[flicks1998 1,044]

2 hours ago, Solaris81 said:

It's like that in Mindanao where my fiance is. USEM is now closed until June. 

The bans will be lifted eventually to some degree.  Its not possible for people to completely stop their lives for a year or more.  When things do open up slowly, it wont be like it was before probably for 2 years or so.  Philippines has been mismanaged as has the US.  The problem is if the Philippines could just test more than the 75,000 or so that they have done, it would give a better idea of how wide spread this is.  By chance, when I returned to the US, I got a job with a large medical center.  We are one of 70 places that are in human testing for a COVID vaccine but the success wont be known until at least March/April next year.  We have seen much less COVID patients then anticipated.  Also, the medical professionals where I am really believe quite strongly that true infection rate is anywhere between 60-100 times the documented rate.  Which means the death rate % is far lower than what is reported. 

 

Our I-797 NOA expires May 21st.  We were actually to have our interview back in mid-March just as the embassy closed on the 17th of March.  Who do I write to extend this?  NVC? US Embassy Manila? Etc?

 

 

[payxibka 10,044]

12 minutes ago, flicks1998 said:

The bans will be lifted eventually to some degree.  Its not possible for people to completely stop their lives for a year or more.  When things do open up slowly, it wont be like it was before probably for 2 years or so.  Philippines has been mismanaged as has the US.  The problem is if the Philippines could just test more than the 75,000 or so that they have done, it would give a better idea of how wide spread this is.  By chance, when I returned to the US, I got a job with a large medical center.  We are one of 70 places that are in human testing for a COVID vaccine but the success wont be known until at least March/April next year.  We have seen much less COVID patients then anticipated.  Also, the medical professionals where I am really believe quite strongly that true infection rate is anywhere between 60-100 times the documented rate.  Which means the death rate % is far lower than what is reported. 

 

Our I-797 NOA expires May 21st.  We were actually to have our interview back in mid-March just as the embassy closed on the 17th of March.  Who do I write to extend this?  NVC? US Embassy Manila? Etc?

 

 

Since it is the consulate that can extend the petition validity,  that's who you contact 

[apellica 76]

Well this is a bit disturbing.  My fiancee sent this to me.  Not sure how reputable the source is, but I don't believe Duterte wants his big money-maker to go down the tubes.

 

 

[Bryselle 0]

2 hours ago, apellica said:

Well this is a bit disturbing.  My fiancee sent this to me.  Not sure how reputable the source is, but I don't believe Duterte wants his big money-maker to go down the tubes.

 

 

My understanding is, this is solely for vacation/leisure purposes outside of the country. Philippines government cannot shut down the airport entirely; it is up to each airline if they will suspend or continue their flights. 

[payxibka 10,044]

1 hour ago, Bryselle said:

My understanding is, this is solely for vacation/leisure purposes outside of the country. Philippines government cannot shut down the airport entirely; it is up to each airline if they will suspend or continue their flights. 

The airport authority can absolutely shut the airports down entirely. 

 

Philippines government can shutdown air traffic control denying any aircraft from landing at any Philippine airport 

Edited May 1, 2020 by payxibka

[Bryselle 0]

I am referring to the photo posted above. I mean the government cannot shut down the airport for the whole 2020 and will open only for the next year for foreign travel? People aren't just going outside the country for leisure. Many people will complaint of course, millions of Filipinos are working outside the country so they cannot do that for the entire year. 

[payxibka 10,044]

3 hours ago, Bryselle said:

I am referring to the photo posted above. I mean the government cannot shut down the airport for the whole 2020 and will open only for the next year for foreign travel? People aren't just going outside the country for leisure. Many people will complaint of course, millions of Filipinos are working outside the country so they cannot do that for the entire year. 

So was I,  and if they decide its for the betterment of the country, then they will do what they need to do.  Your premise in your other post was that the government can't do it (which they can) and that it was up to the airlines to decide (which it is but ONLY if the skies and airports are operating).

 

If they want to operate specific flights to the Middle East or other region similar to the repatriation flights but in reverse, they could do that as well.  

 

[NoMansLand2020 298]

5 hours ago, payxibka said:

So was I,  and if they decide its for the betterment of the country, then they will do what they need to do.  Your premise in your other post was that the government can't do it (which they can) and that it was up to the airlines to decide (which it is but ONLY if the skies and airports are operating).

 

If they want to operate specific flights to the Middle East or other region similar to the repatriation flights but in reverse, they could do that as well.  

 

I bet this will not apply to immigrants. Only people leaving and then coming back. 

[Bryselle 0]

7 hours ago, payxibka said:

So was I,  and if they decide its for the betterment of the country, then they will do what they need to do.  Your premise in your other post was that the government can't do it (which they can) and that it was up to the airlines to decide (which it is but ONLY if the skies and airports are operating).

 

If they want to operate specific flights to the Middle East or other region similar to the repatriation flights but in reverse, they could do that as well.  

 

But my question is, do you think the government will do it for the entire year? 

 

I am saying they will not and cannot do it because a lot of things should be put into consideration first. They can only restrict people going outside the country, if the purpose is just for a vacation. We are talking for the entire year here, not just for a couple of weeks. 

[geowrian 22,336]

1 minute ago, Bryselle said:

But my question is, do you think the government will do it for the entire year? 

 

I am saying they will not and cannot do it because a lot of things should be put into consideration first. They can only restrict people going outside the country, if the purpose is just for a vacation. We are talking for the entire year here, not just for a couple of weeks. 

They can prevent anybody from using their airspace, both inbound and outbound. Generally exceptions are made for military purposes, as well as obviously allowing commercial aircraft to use it within local restrictions.

Will they? That's another question. But I think the point was they absolutely have the authority to do so if they decide to go that path.

[payxibka 10,044]

7 hours ago, Bryselle said:

 They can only restrict people going outside the country, if the purpose is just for a vacation. We are talking for the entire year here, not just for a couple of weeks. 

Really?  Just ask the people in the DPRK or former Soviets what can be done.

[Bryselle 0]

15 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Really?  Just ask the people in the DPRK or former Soviets what can be done.

Nope I don't need to. North Korea and Philippines government is so much different in many ways. Our government is Democratic. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

13 hours ago, Bryselle said:

Nope I don't need to. North Korea and Philippines government is so much different in many ways. Our government is Democratic. 

Really???? The government was trying to extradite a OFW in Taiwan because she spoke out against the Duterte government. 

 

That doesn't take in to effect that they have been prioritizing POGOs over the regular Filipino citizen