Justice Department watchdog finds 2016 launch of FBI probe of Trump advisers was legitimate

[90DayFinancier 910]

Justice Department watchdog finds 2016 launch of FBI probe of Trump advisers was legitimate

, U.S., December 7, 2019. REUTERS/Loren Elliott
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department’s inspector general, in a report to be made public on Monday, found that an FBI probe into advisers to Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign was opened on a legitimate and properly authorized basis, a congressional source familiar with the findings said.

The department’s watchdog further found that political bias on the part of FBI employees did not influence the agency’s decision to open its investigation - a probe that eventually led to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

 

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-findings/justice-department-watchdog-finds-2016-launch-of-fbi-probe-of-trump-advisers-was-legitimate-source-idUSKBN1YD20H?il=0

[Dashinka 23,252]

Hmm, Durham thinks otherwise with his broader criminal investigation.

 

US Attorney Durham objects to IG findings on Russia probe origins in stunning statement

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-blasts-fbi-over-intrusive-probe-of-trump-campaign-in-wake-of-fisa-report

 

[TBoneTX 43,061]

IG was limited to interviewing current FBI/DOJ employees, and couldn't charge anyone criminally.  Durham not thus restricted.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

Fully expected:

 

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/725836-barr-rejects-key-finding-in-report-on-russia-probe-report/

Remember 2018 and Horowitz's prior report where he described biased and criminal mindset and actions, yet concluded against all logic that there was no bias or criminality. It wouldn't be surprising that a Horowitz sequel would describe unjustified spying then call it justified. There was never a reason to believe that the IG would hold the bureaus accountable. It all rests with Durham, and even in this case, one should have similar expectations until proven otherwise. 

 

Recall that in the vast majority of these leaks, whether it be ones Assange or Snowden did, or the handful that the Intercept were given and did pieces on shedding light on abuses, the only extreme few arrests ever made, were those who leaked things, not people who actually abused power.

 

These are not agencies that hold themselves accountable, too many people are either friends with them via connections, or afraid of them (hence all the politically correct fear of criticizing the bureau employees in general, because of their ability to retaliate and ruin anyone), and that's what's led to this rampant corrupt culture where they operate with impunity outside public oversight, and often outside all laws, as many of these leaks demonstrated. It's going to take some seriously driven will for someone to root out this corruption, and doing so is going to be a hazard against themselves for retaliation.

 

What's really damning in this latest report is yet more attempts by Comey to perform a coup against the President. This is treason, and he should be hanging for this.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

11 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

IG was limited to interviewing current FBI/DOJ employees, and couldn't charge anyone criminally.  Durham not thus restricted.

I suspect 90 day had a premature TDS elation eposode 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

this aint over by a long shot. The deep state is pumping water back in the swamp at a rapid rate

 

Barr blasts FBI’s Trump probe, accuses investigators of ‘gross abuse

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-blasts-fbi

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

Barr has long been a member of that "deep state". He's in a position right now to rectify his prior transgressions, but people on the right (just like the left) are getting caught up in the galvanized fervor of words (which isn't far from what virtue signaling is, in that it does absolutely nothing useful) and really need to perceive whats useful and what isn't.

 

In other words, how meaningful is "blasting" things? Or just making accusations to the media? If there's no legal instrument holding anyone accountable, this is hot air. Actions, for me, is what will prove Barr isn't still in the "deep state". The primary strategy employed by both parties to perpetuate corruption is to act all bothered and use charged language to make it seem like they're going to do something about these abuses, but then they do absolutely nothing. Generally, this is because many of them are also the abusers. Someone that would actually hold corrupt officials in the government accountable likely is in danger. No one in the Bush administration went to prison over the Iraq War, no one went to prison over abuses against Americans i.e. spying, and no one is going to jail yet either for these abuses against Trump. What does that tell you about how well this government polices itself?

 

The abuses against Trump and countless Americans are tangible, and must be met with equally tangible punitive action. The IG is supposed to be one method of (investigatory) oversight against power abuses, and we saw proof last year, cemented yet again with this report, that they aren't oversight, they are basically tag along's posing as oversight. In these multiple reports, they sat there detailing pre-existing biases against Trump (serious corruption), followed by abuses against Trump (before and after elected/sworn in, meaning abuses against an American citizen, and attempting to overthrow an elected President), along with other Americans, but then the IG (Horowitz and co) sit there saying, to the horror of accountability, no one did anything biased or wrong. This really demonstrated how deeply-seeded corruption manifests itself in the federal government, and now, more than ever, the public needs oversight over these bureaus for them to justify their existence. They are not representing the American people, nor upholding laws, they are using their power as their own personal instruments against people, as detailed by Strzok and Page in their texts, their "leak strategy", and their "insurance policy" against Trump. The fact that this isn't chilling to around half of the American voting populace, demonstrating the level of intervention and tampering (in elections, in a President's exercise of basic policy-making authority), precisely illustrates why these abuses are done, and how psychologically off the deep end the left, in particular, are, that they have no problem with any of this, primarily fed by the infantile desire to get their way, and the bureaus helping use this compromised state, partnering with the media, Democrats, and even some Republicans, to facilitate getting their way.

Edited December 10, 2019 by Burnt Reynolds

[TBoneTX 43,061]

Best penalty will be at the ballot box in November.

That is, if the Democrats accept the results of the election.

[90DayFinancier 910]

15 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Barr has long been a member of that "deep state". He's in a position right now to rectify his prior transgressions, but people on the right (just like the left) are getting caught up in the galvanized fervor of words (which isn't far from what virtue signaling is, in that it does absolutely nothing useful) and really need to perceive whats useful and what isn't.

 

In other words, how meaningful is "blasting" things? Or just making accusations to the media? If there's no legal instrument holding anyone accountable, this is hot air. Actions, for me, is what will prove Barr isn't still in the "deep state". The primary strategy employed by both parties to perpetuate corruption is to act all bothered and use charged language to make it seem like they're going to do something about these abuses, but then they do absolutely nothing. Generally, this is because many of them are also the abusers. Someone that would actually hold corrupt officials in the government accountable likely is in danger. No one in the Bush administration went to prison over the Iraq War, no one went to prison over abuses against Americans i.e. spying, and no one is going to jail yet either for these abuses against Trump. What does that tell you about how well this government polices itself?

 

The abuses against Trump and countless Americans are tangible, and must be met with equally tangible punitive action. The IG is supposed to be one method of (investigatory) oversight against power abuses, and we saw proof last year, cemented yet again with this report, that they aren't oversight, they are basically tag along's posing as oversight. In these multiple reports, they sat there detailing pre-existing biases against Trump (serious corruption), followed by abuses against Trump (before and after elected/sworn in, meaning abuses against an American citizen, and attempting to overthrow an elected President), along with other Americans, but then the IG (Horowitz and co) sit there saying, to the horror of accountability, no one did anything biased or wrong. This really demonstrated how deeply-seeded corruption manifests itself in the federal government, and now, more than ever, the public needs oversight over these bureaus for them to justify their existence. They are not representing the American people, nor upholding laws, they are using their power as their own personal instruments against people, as detailed by Strzok and Page in their texts, their "leak strategy", and their "insurance policy" against Trump. The fact that this isn't chilling to around half of the American voting populace, demonstrating the level of intervention and tampering (in elections, in a President's exercise of basic policy-making authority), precisely illustrates why these abuses are done, and how psychologically off the deep end the left, in particular, are, that they have no problem with any of this, primarily fed by the infantile desire to get their way, and the bureaus helping use this compromised state, partnering with the media, Democrats, and even some Republicans, to facilitate getting their way.

Translation, the Inspector General report did not reaffirm the conspiracy theories that make no sense, therefore Trump and by extension his followers are victims and the real culprit is the mass deluded part of the population that don't share Trump's view of the world.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

57 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Translation, the Inspector General report did not reaffirm the conspiracy theories that make no sense, therefore Trump and by extension his followers are victims and the real culprit is the mass deluded part of the population that don't share Trump's view of the world.

IG Horowitz rips 'failure' of entire 'chain of command' in FBI's Trump-Russia probe

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/horowitz-testifies

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

IG Horowitz rips 'failure' of entire 'chain of command' in FBI's Trump-Russia probe

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/horowitz-testifies

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

On 12/9/2019 at 4:00 PM, 90DayFinancier said:

Justice Department watchdog finds 2016 launch of FBI probe of Trump advisers was legitimate

, U.S., December 7, 2019. REUTERS/Loren Elliott
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department’s inspector general, in a report to be made public on Monday, found that an FBI probe into advisers to Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign was opened on a legitimate and properly authorized basis, a congressional source familiar with the findings said.

The department’s watchdog further found that political bias on the part of FBI employees did not influence the agency’s decision to open its investigation - a probe that eventually led to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

 

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-findings/justice-department-watchdog-finds-2016-launch-of-fbi-probe-of-trump-advisers-was-legitimate-source-idUSKBN1YD20H?il=0

[90DayFinancier 910]

13 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

How much did you pay for Mr T-bones comedy workshop?

[90DayFinancier 910]

49 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Using your link

'Horowitz reiterated in his testimony that he did not find any "documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation" influenced the opening of the bureau's Trump-Russia investigation, which was called Crossfire Hurricane inside the FBI, and efforts to seek a FISA warrant to monitor Page.

He extended a similar judgment to the launch of investigations into four Trump associates: Page, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, former national security adviser Michael Flynn and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. He added Wednesday that the Crossfire Hurricane investigation was opened for an "authorized investigative purpose and with sufficient factual predication.""

 

[laylalex 7,247]

Why isn't it possible that the FBI made mistakes AND there was no improper motive or political bias for opening the investigation? It's not like these cancel each other out, or that one outweighs each other.