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Hello, 

 

I’m trying to help a friend to bring her daughters from Venezuela to Puerto Rico. She recently became a Permanent Resident. 
 

Key points about her case: 

 

* She came on a K1 visa this year. Her daughters were included in the petition but they decided not to follow her.

 

* She got married on May 2019, which would make her 17 year old eligible  to be petitioned as a stepchild of a USC .(if I understood guides here correctly). But  not her 18 year old who would be 19 on December this year.  
 

* Both daughters graduated from high school and are unmarried and without plans of doing so. 


* She wants to reunite with them and preferably not having to choose between bringing one and leaving the other all alone. 


I have a few questions:

 

- Can she petition for her daughters with a conditional green card? If so, can she rely on her husband’s income and/or use her husband as a co-sponsor for her daughters?  
 

- Can her husband petition for her 17 year old and she petition for her 18 year old?  Is there any advantage in doing so? 
 

- I know all those processes take a while, but how can she check the priority dates and have an estimate on how long it would take? 
 

Last but not least, what would happen if her daughter turns 21 while her application/petition is pending? 
 

 

I’m aware that the best route for her was to bring them with her as k2s, but that’s water under the bridge now. :( 

Thank you so much! Apologies for the long text. 
 

@geowrian @payxibka  @SusieQQQ @Boiler Your comments and feedback would be much appreciated as well as anyone else’s. 
 


 

 

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You said she got married in May 2019? If so she has time to get the K2 follow to join going if it has been less then a year from her visa being issued?

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2 minutes ago, Eric&Mirella said:

* She came on a K1 visa this year. Her daughters were included in the petition but they decided not to follow her.

If the K-1 was issued less than 1 year ago, they can still utilize follow to join (FTJ) to get K-2 visas using the existing I-129F. You still have to do AOS for them separately, but it cuts down the timeline to a few months (just consulate processing + interview).

 

2 minutes ago, Eric&Mirella said:

* She got married on May 2019, which would make her 17 year old eligible  to be petitioned as a stepchild of a USC .(if I understood guides here correctly). But  not her 18 year old who would be 19 on December this year.

Correct.

2 minutes ago, Eric&Mirella said:

- Can she petition for her daughters with a conditional green card? If so, can she rely on her husband’s income and/or use her husband as a co-sponsor for her daughters?  

Yes and yes.

2 minutes ago, Eric&Mirella said:

- Can her husband petition for her 17 year old and she petition for her 18 year old?  Is there any advantage in doing so? 

Yes. The 17yo would be an immediate relative with an ETA around 1 year. The 18yo would be F2A with a ~2 year timeline.

But note again the FTJ possibility...that would be the fastest by far.

 

2 minutes ago, Eric&Mirella said:

- I know all those processes take a while, but how can she check the priority dates and have an estimate on how long it would take? 

PDs don't matter for the IR (17yo). F2A is current immediately at this time (18yo).

VB: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/

 

2 minutes ago, Eric&Mirella said:

Last but not least, what would happen if her daughter turns 21 while her application/petition is pending? 

CSPA would likely cover her so she doesn't age out. But aging out doesn't seem to be on the table if you file soon.

 

2 minutes ago, Eric&Mirella said:

**I’m aware that the best route for her was to bring them with her as k2s, but that’s water under the bridge now.** 

Are you certain?

 

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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26 minutes ago, geowrian said:

If the K-1 was issued less than 1 year ago, they can still utilize follow to join (FTJ) to get K-2 visas using the existing I-129F. You still have to do AOS for them separately, but it cuts down the timeline to a few months (just consulate processing + interview).

 

Correct.

Yes and yes.

Yes. The 17yo would be an immediate relative with an ETA around 1 year. The 18yo would be F2A with a ~2 year timeline.

But note again the FTJ possibility...that would be the fastest by far.

 

PDs don't matter for the IR (17yo). F2A is current immediately at this time (18yo).

VB: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/

 

CSPA would likely cover her so she doesn't age out. But aging out doesn't seem to be on the table if you file soon.

 

Are you certain?

 

Wow. Thank you so much! ugh I wish she would have know that before. Are there any resources for the follow to join on this website.? I can’t find it. Her visa was issued on late March. 
 

 

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33 minutes ago, Ontarkie said:

You said she got married in May 2019? If so she has time to get the K2 follow to join going if it has been less then a year from her visa being issued?

Thanks. Her visa was issued on late March this year. So, yes she still has some time. 

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9 minutes ago, Eric&Mirella said:

Thanks. Her visa was issued on late March this year. So, yes she still has some time. 

So this would be the fastest way for both of the kids. Get her to call the consulate and tell them they  are ready for the kids K2's follow to join. Then they do their medicals and interviews much much faster. 

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Met Playing Everquest in 2005
Engaged 9-15-2006
K-1 & 4 K-2'S
Filed 05-09-07
Interview 03-12-08
Visa received 04-21-08
Entry 05-06-08
Married 06-21-08
AOS X5
Filed 07-08-08
Cards Received01-22-09
Roc X5
Filed 10-17-10
Cards Received02-22-11
Citizenship
Filed 10-17-11
Interview 01-12-12
Oath 06-29-12

Citizenship for older 2 boys

Filed 03/08/2014

NOA/fee waiver 03/19/2014

Biometrics 04/15/14

Interview 05/29/14

In line for Oath 06/20/14

Oath 09/19/2014 We are all done! All USC no more USCIS

 

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14 minutes ago, Ontarkie said:

So this would be the fastest way for both of the kids. Get her to call the consulate and tell them they  are ready for the kids K2's follow to join. Then they do their medicals and interviews much much faster. 

Ok! Does she need to file the I-824?  Or will the consulate give her instructions?  If you have any links other than us is for info I would really appreciate it. 

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17 minutes ago, Eric&Mirella said:

Ok! Does she need to file the I-824?  Or will the consulate give her instructions?  If you have any links other than us is for info I would really appreciate it. 

No I-824 needed. They should already have the approved petition at the consulate still.

DS-160s, medicals, etc. will be needed for each. Basically the same process as the K-1s. Contact the consulate to get started.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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35 minutes ago, Eric&Mirella said:

Ok! Does she need to file the I-824?  Or will the consulate give her instructions?  If you have any links other than us is for info I would really appreciate it. 

to get a K-2 visa:

 

1. Get the Embassy Case # - girls will need the # to schedule medical. A K-1 parent should have it  (the #should've been used to schedule mother's medical as well) or - this is the number you probably got, calling  NVC, once case (I-129F) was on its way to Venezuela 

2. Girls get medical done.

2. Fill out DS-160  - x2

 

For a K-2 interview:

1.Schedule an appointment

 

Girls should have with them Police Certificates, I-134, NOA-2 of a K-1 parent I-129F (approval notice).

 

But the process may vary for each country, so yes, it would be the best  to contact the Embassy .

 

Good luck!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, geowrian said:

No I-824 needed. They should already have the approved petition at the consulate still.

DS-160s, medicals, etc. will be needed for each. Basically the same process as the K-1s. Contact the consulate to get started.

Thank you so so much!!! 

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15 minutes ago, Ksenia_O said:

to get a K-2 visa:

 

1. Get the Embassy Case # - girls will need the # to schedule medical. A K-1 parent should have it  (the #should've been used to schedule mother's medical as well) or - this is the number you probably got, calling  NVC, once case (I-129F) was on its way to Venezuela 

2. Girls get medical done.

2. Fill out DS-160  - x2

 

For a K-2 interview:

1.Schedule an appointment

 

Girls should have with them Police Certificates, I-134, NOA-2 of a K-1 parent I-129F (approval notice).

 

But the process may vary for each country, so yes, it would be the best  to contact the Embassy .

 

Good luck!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you!!! They will interview in Colombia that is the designated post for Venezuelans. 

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11 minutes ago, Eric&Mirella said:

Thank you!!! They will interview in Colombia that is the designated post for Venezuelans. 

You are welcome!

 

Didn't know about Colombia :)

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Ksenia_O said:

You are welcome!

 

Didn't know about Colombia :)

 

 

Do you know if the 17 year old requires to provide a travel authorization from her stranged dad at the interview stage?  Their father cut all ties with them. 

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Just now, Eric&Mirella said:

Do you know if the 17 year old requires to provide a travel authorization from her stranged dad at the interview stage?  Their father cut all ties with them. 

Depends on a country...I believe.

 

In some (like in my home country, Ukraine) -  at age 16  no other parent's consent is needed anymore for a child to travel/move. Some others - up to 18 still required.

So, you'd need to check with their home country requirements 

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2 minutes ago, Ksenia_O said:

Depends on a country...I believe.

 

In some (like in my home country, Ukraine) -  at age 16  no other parent's consent is needed anymore for a child to travel/move. Some others - up to 18 still required.

So, you'd need to check with their home country requirements 

Thanks! Her mom will check with a lawyer. She’s really excited.
 

 Do you know if the i134 needs to be changed or they should provide one with the same info their mom did?  Their stepdad has a 19 year old daughter who he pays some alimony but doesn’t live with him. 

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