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Hey guys, 


As I'm preparing for my interview, I've seen a lot of questions based upon the engagement that will be asked at the interview. I still have not officially proposed to my fiance and will not be able to do so before the interview, even though we saw each other during August as well, since I was hoping to propose to her at the States before our wedding. Our i-129F has already been approved, and we have been in a relationship for four years. We have thousands of photos, bills, receipts and call logs to show that this is a bona fide relationship and proof that we're both ready to get married as soon as we are in the United States. Also I have already bought a ring for the engagement, which I could show as well during the interview. 

 

So the fact that we're not yet engaged be an issue since it's worrying both of us a lot? Thank you in advance for any input you guys can give. Cheers.

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You are engaged. An engagement is an agreement to marry, nothing more. Anything else is just customs (a ring, an elaborate proposal, etc.).

The intent to marry was established with the I-129F packet already. A new letter of intent is fine to include as well.

 

The CO may or may not ask how you got engaged. The simple response is typically just "I asked him/her to marry me and they said yes".

 

Good luck.

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Engaged is not a legal status. Many people decide to marry without a ring or a party or a facebook announcement. This is my second marriage and I've never had an engagement ring. Like most couples we both came to a point in the relationship where we realized this is what we wanted for the long-term and we decided to get married. 

 

The embassy doesn’t require a full love story of someone getting down on one knee and producing a ring that cost more than a month’s wages. They are interested in whether you are eligible to and wish to marry, that you understand you have to marry in order to remain in the USA, that you are marrying for love not a green card, and that you are eligible to immigrate. 

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Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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Nowhere in the paperwork does it ask if there was a formal proposal or an engagement ring (for many of us there was, for many others there was not at the time the petition was filed or was not ever).

 

The forms do ask you to show you intend to marry each other, but the usual way of doing that for a fiance(e) visa petition is with the signed letters of intent.

K-1                             AOS                            
NOA1 Notice Date: 2018-05-31    NOA1 Notice Date: 2019-04-11   
NOA2 Date: 2018-11-16           Biometrics Date: 2019-05-10    
Arrived at NVC:  2018-12-03     EAD/AP In Hand: 2019-09-16     
Arrived in Moscow: 2018-12-28   GC Interview Date: 2019-09-25      
Interview date: 2019-02-14      GC In Hand: 2019-10-02
Visa issued: 2019-02-28
POE: 2019-03-11
Wedding: 2019-03-14

ROC                             Naturalization
NOA1 Notice Date: 2021-07-16    Applied Online: 2022-07-09 (biometrics waived)
Approval Date: 2022-04-06       Interview was Scheduled: 2023-01-06
10-year GC In Hand: 2022-04-14  Interview date: 2023-02-13 (passed)
                            	Oath: 2023-02-13

 

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I hope she knows that immigrating to the states includes marriage. :)

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Adjustment of Status

AOS March 5, 2014 Submitted AOS with EAD/AP package to Chicago USICS

Delivered March 8, 2014 AOS packaged delivered to USCIS drop box

Accepted March 19, 2014 Text message with receipt numbers

Biometrics April 16, 2014 Biometrics completed

EAD May 23, 2014 Employment Authorization Document approved and went to card production

TD May 23, 2014 Travel Document approved and went for card production

Receipt EAD/AP May 30, 2014 Received combo card EAD/AP

Green Card Approved July 11, 2014 Approved, no interview. Went to card production.

Green Card received July 17, 2014 GC received without interview

Removal of Conditions

Mailed I-751 Dec 16, 2015 Submitted ROC (removal of conditions)

Received Dec 18, 2015 USPS notification of successful delivery

Check Cashed Dec 21, 2015 Check was cashed

NOA-1 Issued Dec 21, 2015 NOA-1 for ROC issued

NOA-1 Issued Dec 26, 2015 NOA-1 Received

Biometrics Appt. Jan 29, 2016 Biometrics Appointment Scheduled [Completed]

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Peru
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1 minute ago, Greenbaum said:

I hope she knows that immigrating to the states includes marriage. :)

I also wondered that 😁

K1

08/24/2019: I-129F Mailed

08/26/2019: NOA1 Text Message

12/13/2019: NOA2 (through tracking app)

AOS

08/08/20 Documents sent

08/27/20 Check cashed

08/31/20 SMS received

09/08/20 NOA received


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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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1 hour ago, Greenbaum said:

I hope she knows that immigrating to the states includes marriage. :)

... because there's no such thing as a girlfriend/boyfriend visa :lol: (at least in the US).

K-1                             AOS                            
NOA1 Notice Date: 2018-05-31    NOA1 Notice Date: 2019-04-11   
NOA2 Date: 2018-11-16           Biometrics Date: 2019-05-10    
Arrived at NVC:  2018-12-03     EAD/AP In Hand: 2019-09-16     
Arrived in Moscow: 2018-12-28   GC Interview Date: 2019-09-25      
Interview date: 2019-02-14      GC In Hand: 2019-10-02
Visa issued: 2019-02-28
POE: 2019-03-11
Wedding: 2019-03-14

ROC                             Naturalization
NOA1 Notice Date: 2021-07-16    Applied Online: 2022-07-09 (biometrics waived)
Approval Date: 2022-04-06       Interview was Scheduled: 2023-01-06
10-year GC In Hand: 2022-04-14  Interview date: 2023-02-13 (passed)
                            	Oath: 2023-02-13

 

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