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My husband applied for his citizenship a few weeks ago. He applied under the 3 year terms but he will have his green card for 5 years in February. We applied late for the 3 year and early for the 5 year. We are going to be filing for a divorce and entered the marriage for the right reason but cannot reconcile at this point. Since he will meet the 5 year requirements in february can we get a divorce during this time. So then when he would go in to interview he would just take documentation stating that we are divorced? His estimate is 8 months for the citizenship where the divorce estimate is 4 months. 

 

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If you remain married until after the oath ceremony, you’re fine. If you officially divorce before that, then the N-400 must be denied, sorry. The fact that you could then refile under the 5 year rule doesn’t change that.

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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I agree, he is probably best waiting to file based on the 5 year rule in November/December timeframe to avoid the potential for a denial at the oath ceremony.

 

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Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

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16 hours ago, HelpPlease12 said:

My husband applied for his citizenship a few weeks ago. He applied under the 3 year terms but he will have his green card for 5 years in February. We applied late for the 3 year and early for the 5 year. We are going to be filing for a divorce and entered the marriage for the right reason but cannot reconcile at this point. Since he will meet the 5 year requirements in february can we get a divorce during this time. So then when he would go in to interview he would just take documentation stating that we are divorced? His estimate is 8 months for the citizenship where the divorce estimate is 4 months. 

 

Thank you for your help!

That's exactly what happened to me. I applied under the 3 year rule and when my interview came I was divorced but I was eligible under the 5 year rule. He denied me and recommended me to apply again under the 5 year rule. Check my timeline under the signature part

01I-751 #1 - March 2015 (Jointly filed)

April 2015: Bio-metrics completed

11/30/2018 Interview Notice for 01/07/2019

01/07/2019: Withdrawn at the interview due to divorce and another 751 filed after the divorce and switched to the waiver case

 

I-751 #2 - March 2017 (Waiver)

April 2017: Bio-metrics completed

01/07/2019: Interview

01/14/2019: Approval Notification via Email

03/15/2019: Had to file I90 since no card was sent

01/28/2020: Card is being produced (I751)

02/03/2020: Card in hand (I751)

 

N-400 #1 Feb 2016 (Pending)(3-year Rule) 

February 2016: N-400 filed under the 3 year rule.

February 2016: Bio-metrics completed

04/29/2016: Interview Notice in the mail For 06/08/2016

06/01/2016: Interview was cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances (probably cause the 751 was still pending)

01/16/2019: Case changed online again to interview was scheduled for 03/06/2019

03/06/2019 The Interview (Can't be approved since I'm not eligible for the 3 year rule anymore, will have to file again under the 5 year rule, FML)

03/09/2019: Official Deny letter Via certified mail

 

N-400 #2 March 2019 IOE (Pending)(5-year Rule) 

03/09/2019: N-400 filed online under the 5 year rule (Within 72 hours of the interview)

03/09/2019: NOA1 via web Portal

03/18/2019: NOA1 in the mail

03/19/2019: NOA2 via web Portal. Bio-metrics for 04/02/2019

03/21/2019: Successful early walk-in Bio-metrics

01/22/2020: Case changed to Interview was scheduled for 03/06/2020

03/16/2020: Denied for a dismissed criminal case 3 years ago

04/22/2020: Filled N336 to appeal the decision

 

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On 10/11/2019 at 11:27 AM, MohU3 said:

That's exactly what happened to me. I applied under the 3 year rule and when my interview came I was divorced but I was eligible under the 5 year rule. He denied me and recommended me to apply again under the 5 year rule. Check my timeline under the signature part

Did you get approved yet? How was the interview goes?

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Hi all, 

Sorry to piggy back off this thread - i divorced my spouse as well, so I need to wait until next year to file for citizenship. It'll be 5 years then. 

My question is, my current husband to be is undocumented as well. Would it be better to wait to get married after I file for citizenship? Or should that not affect my application at all?

 

Thanks in advance.

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15 hours ago, ShawnSpiker said:

Did you get approved yet? How was the interview goes?

I got denied for my N400 and I filed for N336 to appeal and waiting for another interview since 4/2020

 

01I-751 #1 - March 2015 (Jointly filed)

April 2015: Bio-metrics completed

11/30/2018 Interview Notice for 01/07/2019

01/07/2019: Withdrawn at the interview due to divorce and another 751 filed after the divorce and switched to the waiver case

 

I-751 #2 - March 2017 (Waiver)

April 2017: Bio-metrics completed

01/07/2019: Interview

01/14/2019: Approval Notification via Email

03/15/2019: Had to file I90 since no card was sent

01/28/2020: Card is being produced (I751)

02/03/2020: Card in hand (I751)

 

N-400 #1 Feb 2016 (Pending)(3-year Rule) 

February 2016: N-400 filed under the 3 year rule.

February 2016: Bio-metrics completed

04/29/2016: Interview Notice in the mail For 06/08/2016

06/01/2016: Interview was cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances (probably cause the 751 was still pending)

01/16/2019: Case changed online again to interview was scheduled for 03/06/2019

03/06/2019 The Interview (Can't be approved since I'm not eligible for the 3 year rule anymore, will have to file again under the 5 year rule, FML)

03/09/2019: Official Deny letter Via certified mail

 

N-400 #2 March 2019 IOE (Pending)(5-year Rule) 

03/09/2019: N-400 filed online under the 5 year rule (Within 72 hours of the interview)

03/09/2019: NOA1 via web Portal

03/18/2019: NOA1 in the mail

03/19/2019: NOA2 via web Portal. Bio-metrics for 04/02/2019

03/21/2019: Successful early walk-in Bio-metrics

01/22/2020: Case changed to Interview was scheduled for 03/06/2020

03/16/2020: Denied for a dismissed criminal case 3 years ago

04/22/2020: Filled N336 to appeal the decision

 

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3 minutes ago, MohU3 said:

I got denied for my N400 and I filed for N336 to appeal and waiting for another interview since 4/2020

 

Why did you get denied?

Was it because you applied under the 3 year rule after you got a divorce?

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14 minutes ago, slee0000 said:

Why did you get denied?

Was it because you applied under the 3 year rule after you got a divorce?

The first time I got denied for that reason. Then I applied under the 5 year rule and got denied cause I had a criminal case back in 2017 which was dismissed by court but still got denied for it that's why I'm appealing it.

01I-751 #1 - March 2015 (Jointly filed)

April 2015: Bio-metrics completed

11/30/2018 Interview Notice for 01/07/2019

01/07/2019: Withdrawn at the interview due to divorce and another 751 filed after the divorce and switched to the waiver case

 

I-751 #2 - March 2017 (Waiver)

April 2017: Bio-metrics completed

01/07/2019: Interview

01/14/2019: Approval Notification via Email

03/15/2019: Had to file I90 since no card was sent

01/28/2020: Card is being produced (I751)

02/03/2020: Card in hand (I751)

 

N-400 #1 Feb 2016 (Pending)(3-year Rule) 

February 2016: N-400 filed under the 3 year rule.

February 2016: Bio-metrics completed

04/29/2016: Interview Notice in the mail For 06/08/2016

06/01/2016: Interview was cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances (probably cause the 751 was still pending)

01/16/2019: Case changed online again to interview was scheduled for 03/06/2019

03/06/2019 The Interview (Can't be approved since I'm not eligible for the 3 year rule anymore, will have to file again under the 5 year rule, FML)

03/09/2019: Official Deny letter Via certified mail

 

N-400 #2 March 2019 IOE (Pending)(5-year Rule) 

03/09/2019: N-400 filed online under the 5 year rule (Within 72 hours of the interview)

03/09/2019: NOA1 via web Portal

03/18/2019: NOA1 in the mail

03/19/2019: NOA2 via web Portal. Bio-metrics for 04/02/2019

03/21/2019: Successful early walk-in Bio-metrics

01/22/2020: Case changed to Interview was scheduled for 03/06/2020

03/16/2020: Denied for a dismissed criminal case 3 years ago

04/22/2020: Filled N336 to appeal the decision

 

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7 minutes ago, MohU3 said:

The first time I got denied for that reason. Then I applied under the 5 year rule and got denied cause I had a criminal case back in 2017 which was dismissed by court but still got denied for it that's why I'm appealing it.

Ahhh dang.. hope you're able to appeal. Good luck!! 

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26-Jul-2016: Married abroad in Russia 👩‍❤️‍👨 See guide here
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED as of February 28th, 2019.

 

Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

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30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

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02-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received online 📃

07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

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15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

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15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

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19-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice - canned response from other senator's office 🌐

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On 9/24/2020 at 12:08 PM, MohU3 said:

I got denied for my N400 and I filed for N336 to appeal and waiting for another interview since 4/2020

 

How did your case got dismissed? did you ever plead guilty or had a deferral prosecution or any special agreement? Did the USCIS officer asked you any questions regarding your dismissed case? I am asking because I am in a similar situation just trying to get your experience.

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On 9/26/2020 at 5:54 PM, seetsuh said:

How did your case got dismissed? did you ever plead guilty or had a deferral prosecution or any special agreement? Did the USCIS officer asked you any questions regarding your dismissed case? I am asking because I am in a similar situation just trying to get your experience.

No Plea was entered. It was special agreement I guess you can call it that. I Paid a fine and did community hours and then the case was dismissed. The officer did ask me about what happened and I was truthfully telling him the story. and after I was done I asked him specifically about it if it was gonna be a problem and he said no since it was dismissed 

01I-751 #1 - March 2015 (Jointly filed)

April 2015: Bio-metrics completed

11/30/2018 Interview Notice for 01/07/2019

01/07/2019: Withdrawn at the interview due to divorce and another 751 filed after the divorce and switched to the waiver case

 

I-751 #2 - March 2017 (Waiver)

April 2017: Bio-metrics completed

01/07/2019: Interview

01/14/2019: Approval Notification via Email

03/15/2019: Had to file I90 since no card was sent

01/28/2020: Card is being produced (I751)

02/03/2020: Card in hand (I751)

 

N-400 #1 Feb 2016 (Pending)(3-year Rule) 

February 2016: N-400 filed under the 3 year rule.

February 2016: Bio-metrics completed

04/29/2016: Interview Notice in the mail For 06/08/2016

06/01/2016: Interview was cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances (probably cause the 751 was still pending)

01/16/2019: Case changed online again to interview was scheduled for 03/06/2019

03/06/2019 The Interview (Can't be approved since I'm not eligible for the 3 year rule anymore, will have to file again under the 5 year rule, FML)

03/09/2019: Official Deny letter Via certified mail

 

N-400 #2 March 2019 IOE (Pending)(5-year Rule) 

03/09/2019: N-400 filed online under the 5 year rule (Within 72 hours of the interview)

03/09/2019: NOA1 via web Portal

03/18/2019: NOA1 in the mail

03/19/2019: NOA2 via web Portal. Bio-metrics for 04/02/2019

03/21/2019: Successful early walk-in Bio-metrics

01/22/2020: Case changed to Interview was scheduled for 03/06/2020

03/16/2020: Denied for a dismissed criminal case 3 years ago

04/22/2020: Filled N336 to appeal the decision

 

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2 hours ago, MohU3 said:

No Plea was entered. It was special agreement I guess you can call it that. I Paid a fine and did community hours and then the case was dismissed. The officer did ask me about what happened and I was truthfully telling him the story. and after I was done I asked him specifically about it if it was gonna be a problem and he said no since it was dismissed 

O ok, sometimes those special agreements are tricky and may be considered a conviction for immigration purposes, or if you admit certain facts during the interview that would count too. If you can I would suggest get a lawyer to review everything for you.

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3 hours ago, MohU3 said:

No Plea was entered. It was special agreement I guess you can call it that. I Paid a fine and did community hours and then the case was dismissed. The officer did ask me about what happened and I was truthfully telling him the story. and after I was done I asked him specifically about it if it was gonna be a problem and he said no since it was dismissed 

 

36 minutes ago, seetsuh said:

O ok, sometimes those special agreements are tricky and may be considered a conviction for immigration purposes, or if you admit certain facts during the interview that would count too. If you can I would suggest get a lawyer to review everything for you.

Indeed.

Was this special agreement a nolo contendere?

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