Mom’s B2 Visa Refused

[Falcon Cara 378]

17 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

Which is considered working and not permitted. This is the reason some parents get denied. Babysitted is considered working. That father is adding to the problem of making it difficult for others.

We have a group of about 20 whom the girls are from PI and the husbands are US Citizens, we get together a few times per year: Christmas, July 4th, etc.  I would say most parents get approved for a tourist visa, because each time we have a get together there seems to be a parent there visiting.

[Falcon Cara 378]

25 minutes ago, Sherryll T. said:

Well,  Mom said the the questions are pretty easy. Just her name, what state, & when is she coming. Didn’t even look at her documents. But at the end the CO said "sorry you are not qualified for the visa" so I have no idea.

Last time I was inside the US embassy in Manila I watched about 20 visa interviews, some were tourist, some were K1's.  I did notice the CO took about 5 minutes before each interview before they called the next applicant up to the window for the interview. I got the feeling they were reviewing the paperwork and basically making a decision before the actual interview.

 

Go ahead and give you mother a letter of invitation and a letter offering to cover her expenses, I have reviewed some YouTube videos that the CO at the USEM have made and put on YouTube and they say bring what paperwork you think will support your case.  Whether or not the CO accepts the paperwork or even looks at is another thing, but it 's better to be prepared.

 

I would personally have her apply about 4 times over a 2 year period, if she doesn't get approved by then then she probably never will.  

[Unlockable 7,306]

15 minutes ago, Falcon Cara said:

We have a group of about 20 whom the girls are from PI and the husbands are US Citizens, we get together a few times per year: Christmas, July 4th, etc.  I would say most parents get approved for a tourist visa, because each time we have a get together there seems to be a parent there visiting.

Oh yes. I don't doubt that. The Philippines has one of the busiest Embassies. I think they are close to the top on the volume of visa applicants so they definitely have a lot that are approved. But because they have a high volume, there are a lot of denials also.

 

But they should be very careful on the babysitting. If border officer discovers they are visiting to help take care of a child. They will be denied entry. Sometimes they are unaware of this..

 

One of the most popular examples of being denied because of babysitting..

https://www.cleveland.com/travel/2015/08/babysitter_versus_the_border_p.html

Edited September 28, 2019 by Unlockable

[Falcon Cara 378]

10 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

Oh yes. I don't doubt that. The Philippines has one of the busiest Embassies. I think they are close to the top on the volume of visa applicants so they definitely have a lot that are approved. But because they have a high volume, there are a lot of denials also.

 

But they should be very careful on the babysitting. If border officer discovers they are visiting to help take care of a child. They will be denied entry. Sometimes they are unaware of this..

 

One of the most popular examples of being denied because of babysitting..

https://www.cleveland.com/travel/2015/08/babysitter_versus_the_border_p.html

Well we have had a pretty good success rate at family approval.  

 

We have had 6 family members all under age 30 apply and 4 have been granted tourist visas.  Not a bad percentage.

 

We have yet had her parents apply, but I would be shocked if they were not approved due to his background of being retired with a nice pension. 

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

2 hours ago, Falcon Cara said:

Well we have had a pretty good success rate at family approval.  

 

We have had 6 family members all under age 30 apply and 4 have been granted tourist visas.  Not a bad percentage.

 

We have yet had her parents apply, but I would be shocked if they were not approved due to his background of being retired with a nice pension. 

2/3 approval so 33% denial on a tiny sample. Ok... this is actually worse than the overall Philippine b2 denial  rate of 27%, so maybe not so good really. https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/RefusalRates/FY18.pdf

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48 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

2/3 approval so 33% denial on a tiny sample. Ok... this is actually worse than the overall Philippine b2 denial  rate of 27%, so maybe not so good really. https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/RefusalRates/FY18.pdf

Rounded out, they are both around 30%. And 30% is not the worst, but it is also not the best. And with the high volume of visitor visa applications that come out of the PHL, 30% still equates to a lot of denials.

 

And this proves the case of how people see two different perspectives of tourist visas. @Falcon Cara has a ciew of the successful visitor visas they've witnesssed. The OP is seeing at a view of a loved one being denied and being difficult for them to obtain.

 

Most of the people coming here for help and advice are here about dinals. We mostly hear about denials much more than approvals.

 

Also, there are a lot of people who don't even attempt visitor visas because they cannot afford the application and/or they know they have a low chance of approval (no or low ties). Because of this, people who are better off (can show strong ties) make up the majority of visitor visa applicants. For example, in the PHL, more people who lives in devloped areas like Manila and have good work and economic status  apply for visitor visas that those who are poor and lives in providences or villages. 

 

[Falcon Cara 378]

1 hour ago, SusieQQQ said:

2/3 approval so 33% denial on a tiny sample. Ok... this is actually worse than the overall Philippine b2 denial  rate of 27%, so maybe not so good really. https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/RefusalRates/FY18.pdf

If I throw in the 3 aunts that got approved it would raise it greatly, but they are over age 50 so I don't see it as a big deal for them to get approved.

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Just now, Falcon Cara said:

If I throw in the 3 aunts that got approved it would raise it greatly, but they are over age 50 so I don't see it as a big deal for them to get approved.

You missed the point again, but never mind.

Though on a separate note, your aunts would probably be more similar to the mom that got denied in this thread so actually a more relevant example than the one you used, and maybe explaining their approach might actually be helpful to OP.

 

@Unlockableof course has the point - the volume is high so the number of denials is high, and the Filipino rate overall is pretty high outside of the countries known for either significant fraud or serious security concerns. ( The comment about socio economic status and visa applications is obviously applicable across all developing countries, not just Philippines. )

[Falcon Cara 378]

33 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

Rounded out, they are both around 30%. And 30% is not the worst, but it is also not the best. And with the high volume of visitor visa applications that come out of the PHL, 30% still equates to a lot of denials.

 

And this proves the case of how people see two different perspectives of tourist visas. @Falcon Cara has a ciew of the successful visitor visas they've witnesssed. The OP is seeing at a view of a loved one being denied and being difficult for them to obtain.

 

Most of the people coming here for help and advice are here about dinals. We mostly hear about denials much more than approvals.

 

Also, there are a lot of people who don't even attempt visitor visas because they cannot afford the application and/or they know they have a low chance of approval (no or low ties). Because of this, people who are better off (can show strong ties) make up the majority of visitor visa applicants. For example, in the PHL, more people who lives in devloped areas like Manila and have good work and economic status  apply for visitor visas that those who are poor and lives in providences or villages. 

 

I understand very well it is hard to get a Tourist Visa from Philippines.  As I have always said it seems as if the elderly or the rich are the most successful. 

 

If I paid for ten girls that I know that are single and under age 30 I would bet none of them would get approved.

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14 minutes ago, Falcon Cara said:

 

If I paid for ten girls that I know that are single and under age 30 I would bet none of them would get approved.

Not sure you meant that to come across the way it did.

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

50 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Not sure you meant that to come across the way it did.

Might explain why none of them would get approved. 

[Falcon Cara 378]

On ‎9‎/‎28‎/‎2019 at 10:12 AM, Boiler said:

Not sure you meant that to come across the way it did.

Old habits are hard to break

[Kasey_13 0]

On 9/28/2019 at 3:28 AM, Unlockable said:

But they should be very careful on the babysitting. If border officer discovers they are visiting to help take care of a child. They will be denied entry. Sometimes they are unaware of this..

 

One of the most popular examples of being denied because of babysitting

 

Hello there, i have quit same situation. My mom was denied last year for coming in US for my wedding, which was soo dissapointemt moment as for me, even more for my mom.. Even 99.9% we were sure that she will get the visa, bcuz we literally brought all docs, but you were right the didn't even look or asked. Few personal question and  - denied. 
But next year we wanna try again, bcuz i want my mom be here for my baby birth... and now you gave me some fear that they might denied her again, bcuz they will consider the visit as baby sitting...😦😯😯...  

So, it mean better to find another reason ????? When i thought if that the wedding of her daughter wasn't a great reason, maybe birth of her future 'and only" grandchild, will be better to melt their heart.... (((((( 

 

Now, i have no idea... - i think its kinda unfair..😓😓😔😔

[Boiler 43,433]

Does not really matter why she wants to come, concentrate why she needs to go home.

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22 minutes ago, Kasey_13 said:

 

Hello there, i have quit same situation. My mom was denied last year for coming in US for my wedding, which was soo dissapointemt moment as for me, even more for my mom.. Even 99.9% we were sure that she will get the visa, bcuz we literally brought all docs, but you were right the didn't even look or asked. Few personal question and  - denied. 
But next year we wanna try again, bcuz i want my mom be here for my baby birth... and now you gave me some fear that they might denied her again, bcuz they will consider the visit as baby sitting...😦😯😯...  

So, it mean better to find another reason ????? When i thought if that the wedding of her daughter wasn't a great reason, maybe birth of her future 'and only" grandchild, will be better to melt their heart.... (((((( 

 

Now, i have no idea... - i think its kinda unfair..😓😓😔😔

The CO is more concerned over the compelling reasons your mother will return to her home country....not the compelling reasons she wants to visit the USA.

Visas aren't usually given out for benevolent reasons.