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Do Californians care that their state government is passing laws that will cost a lot of money to fight in court?

 

President Donald Trump is now required to release his tax records if he wants to be on the California primary ballot — a regulation he’ll most likely fight in court.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a law on Tuesday that requires all presidential candidates to turn over five years’ worth of income tax filings by November in order to secure a spot in the March 3 primary. The financial documents will then be posted online with sensitive, personal information redacted. One catch: The law technically does not bar a candidate from appearing on the general election ballot in 2020. (So Trump could theoretically avoid disclosing them or fighting a court battle over the law by forsaking California’s delegates in an uncontested primary, knowing he’d still get the GOP’s nomination.)

“These are extraordinary times and states have a legal and moral duty to do everything in their power to ensure leaders seeking the highest offices meet minimal standards, and to restore public confidence,” Newsom said in a statement. “The disclosure required by this bill will shed light on conflicts of interest, self-dealing, or influence from domestic and foreign business interest.”

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“The Constitution is clear on the qualifications for someone to serve as president and states cannot add additional requirements on their own,” the Trump campaign’s communications director, Tim Murtaugh, said in a statement. “The bill also violates the 1st Amendment right of association, since California can’t tell political parties which candidates their members can or cannot vote for in a primary election.”

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/30/20747552/california-trump-tax-return-primary-ballot

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Do Californians care that their state government is passing laws that will cost a lot of money to fight in court?

 

President Donald Trump is now required to release his tax records if he wants to be on the California primary ballot — a regulation he’ll most likely fight in court.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a law on Tuesday that requires all presidential candidates to turn over five years’ worth of income tax filings by November in order to secure a spot in the March 3 primary. The financial documents will then be posted online with sensitive, personal information redacted. One catch: The law technically does not bar a candidate from appearing on the general election ballot in 2020. (So Trump could theoretically avoid disclosing them or fighting a court battle over the law by forsaking California’s delegates in an uncontested primary, knowing he’d still get the GOP’s nomination.)

“These are extraordinary times and states have a legal and moral duty to do everything in their power to ensure leaders seeking the highest offices meet minimal standards, and to restore public confidence,” Newsom said in a statement. “The disclosure required by this bill will shed light on conflicts of interest, self-dealing, or influence from domestic and foreign business interest.”

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“The Constitution is clear on the qualifications for someone to serve as president and states cannot add additional requirements on their own,” the Trump campaign’s communications director, Tim Murtaugh, said in a statement. “The bill also violates the 1st Amendment right of association, since California can’t tell political parties which candidates their members can or cannot vote for in a primary election.”

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/30/20747552/california-trump-tax-return-primary-ballot

Trump will probably give Cali the finger. does it matter if he is on the ballot.

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23 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Trump will probably give Cali the finger. does it matter if he is on the ballot.

Quite honestly, the GOP should give up on CA as a lost cause.  Now that they allow ballot harvesting, I don't think the GOPers will come close at all to mattering at least at the state level.


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23 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Quite honestly, the GOP should give up on CA as a lost cause.  Now that they allow ballot harvesting, I don't think the GOPers will come close at all to mattering at least at the state level.

ballot harvesting is another form of cheating to usurp power by the democrats. it's weird that  majority of republican control counties for years lost right after ballot harvesting was in play. 

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4 hours ago, Neo Anderson said:

ballot harvesting is another form of cheating to usurp power by the democrats. it's weird that  majority of republican control counties for years lost right after ballot harvesting was in play. 

Funny, then, that the party that has actually gotten scrutiny for blatant ballot harvesting recently is not the Democrats.

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2 hours ago, Boris Farage said:

I believe the courts will rule this unconstitutional. Running for president or not, it's a privacy violation.

Have to agree with you, old man. Not only that, but there is an argument to be made that the states have no role in adding eligibility requirements for federal office. Now, Newsom may argue that this is not a federal election per se, it's only a state primary, and we won't/can't block a nominated candidate who hasn't disclosed his or her returns from the ballot on the general election, but... nah. There is a parallel that can be drawn with Powell v. McCormack 395 US 486 (1969).

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Good read, thank you Elmcitymaven.

 

Let us hope the courts do their job. If you can impose the requirement for tax returns on a candidate, then eventually you can impose, perhaps, specific genetic markers to either exist or not exist.

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1 hour ago, elmcitymaven said:

Funny, then, that the party that has actually gotten scrutiny for blatant ballot harvesting recently is not the Democrats.

Yes, they tried to do it in a state where it is not legal.  They should face scrutiny for that.  In CA, it appears that the state allowed ballot harvesting as a way to ensure the Dems stay in power in perpetuity.


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4 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yes, they tried to do it in a state where it is not legal.  They should face scrutiny for that.  In CA, it appears that the state allowed ballot harvesting as a way to ensure the Dems stay in power in perpetuity.

 

5 hours ago, elmcitymaven said:

Funny, then, that the party that has actually gotten scrutiny for blatant ballot harvesting recently is not the Democrats.

The Republicans have faced scrutiny and people are going to jail for ballot harvesting here in NC. Supposedly ballot harvest was the reason for the Republican victory in the NC 9th congressional district. Oh btw it is illegal here in NC.

 

I would bet my whole paycheck that there is significant voter fraud in California ballot harvesting. 

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15 hours ago, elmcitymaven said:

Have to agree with you, old man. Not only that, but there is an argument to be made that the states have no role in adding eligibility requirements for federal office. Now, Newsom may argue that this is not a federal election per se, it's only a state primary, and we won't/can't block a nominated candidate who hasn't disclosed his or her returns from the ballot on the general election, but... nah. There is a parallel that can be drawn with Powell v. McCormack 395 US 486 (1969).

Then this goes back to my original question.  I assume Governor Newsom has legal advisors on his staff, but he decided to sign it anyway.  I guess the folks of CA don't care about wasting taxpayer money on political stunts.  I am sure the lawyers that will be racking up billable hours defending this law for the next few years will be happy.


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32 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Then this goes back to my original question.  I assume Governor Newsom has legal advisors on his staff, but he decided to sign it anyway.  I guess the folks of CA don't care about wasting taxpayer money on political stunts.  I am sure the lawyers that will be racking up billable hours defending this law for the next few years will be happy.

Of course they don't care about wasting taxpayer money. The whole local and state governments in California love to spend taxpayer on anything and everything they can. Just look at the Jerry Brown's crazy train or the homeless condos they are building down in LA. 

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9 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Of course they don't care about wasting taxpayer money. The whole local and state governments in California love to spend taxpayer on anything and everything they can. Just look at the Jerry Brown's crazy train or the homeless condos they are building down in LA. 

This is why I cannot believe anyone who does not buy into the Leftist/Socialist form of government would ever stay in that state.  Of course I know your story, but why a business, or anyone that is even partly conservative would go there.  I was looking one time at changing careers and saw some opportunities in CA, I quickly moved on.  The scary thing to me though is the Democrats want to do the same thing to the rest of the US.


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14 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

This is why I cannot believe anyone who does not buy into the Leftist/Socialist form of government would ever stay in that state.  Of course I know your story, but why a business, or anyone that is even partly conservative would go there.  I was looking one time at changing careers and saw some opportunities in CA, I quickly moved on.  The scary thing to me though is the Democrats want to do the same thing to the rest of the US.

That is one of the biggest reasons I am trying to get in state politics here in NC. I see the writing on the wall with people moving down from up north or from out west and wanting to change how the state is. They are looking to change the state to something like NY, CT, or CA. So that is why I have been blasting it out for people to hear. 

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