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Trying to set up a new bank account with my USC wife. They said I'd need an SSN but obviously as I'm in adjustment I don't have one/can't get one. They told me about an ITIN, but the website seems to suggest I'd need to apply for one whilst submitting a tax return? But I don't have any US income to declare yet???

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11 minutes ago, peanutismint said:

Trying to set up a new bank account with my USC wife. They said I'd need an SSN but obviously as I'm in adjustment I don't have one/can't get one. They told me about an ITIN, but the website seems to suggest I'd need to apply for one whilst submitting a tax return? But I don't have any US income to declare yet???

You can only file for an ITIN when you file taxes. Your spouse can file for your taxes as joint, which include US income and foreign income.

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9 minutes ago, mich923 said:

Your spouse can file for your taxes as joint, which include US income and foreign income.

To file a joint return, the foreign spouse must have an SSN or an ITIN.

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12 minutes ago, mich923 said:

You can only file for an ITIN when you file taxes. Your spouse can file for your taxes as joint, which include US income and foreign income.

Some banks will allow opening of an account with a passport number........but not all.....you might have to search to find one which will.  

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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18 minutes ago, missileman said:

To file a joint return, the foreign spouse must have an SSN or an ITIN.

When filing the joint return, the form W-7 has to be attached to apply for ITIN. I attached a link from the IRS website. I've asked several banks if I could get a joint account, but they want him present at the time. 

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/nonresident-alien-spouse

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1 hour ago, peanutismint said:

Trying to set up a new bank account with my USC wife. They said I'd need an SSN but obviously as I'm in adjustment I don't have one/can't get one. They told me about an ITIN, but the website seems to suggest I'd need to apply for one whilst submitting a tax return? But I don't have any US income to declare yet???

It was not a problem to get an SSN for my wife after we married.  We went down, waited for our number to be called, she showed her ID, Passport, Marriage License and notices from USCIS.  All they asked was which name did she want on it.  then got it in a week or so.  There was problems at my main bank, but I had  an account at one of those banks in Walmart.  It took awhile, but they got her added to the existing account.  Once she got her EAD and a State ID there was no problem after that.  You can however be added as beneficiary to any existing account.

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45 minutes ago, missileman said:

To file a joint return, the foreign spouse must have an SSN or an ITIN.

Oh nevermind I didn't see he was in adjustment. I thought he was still abroad. My mistake

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15 hours ago, missileman said:

Some banks will allow opening of an account with a passport number........but not all.....you might have to search to find one which will.  

Exactly

 

Per US Government you don't need ITIN or SSN to open an account, but it is basically the banks make their own policy

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I added Mary to my checking at a regional bank right after we got married.  They required an Apostille of her passport bio pages.   OP I know you are already stateside but contact a few regional banks or credit unions.  I also added her to my credit union account and all they asked for was her passport bio and a photo id from the Philippines.

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Thanks for all the responses - so let me see if I'm getting this right:

 

I can't get an ITIN until I file my taxes......but I can't file my taxes until I have an ITIN....?! 😄

 

But then somebody else is saying I can actually get a SSN now, even though I'm still in status adjustment period?? An SSN would make things easier......

 

The bank we're interested in have said a passport/visa documents wouldn't be enough but maybe if other banks are more lenient we could try them.... 

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On 6/29/2019 at 6:57 PM, peanutismint said:

Trying to set up a new bank account with my USC wife. They said I'd need an SSN but obviously as I'm in adjustment I don't have one/can't get one. They told me about an ITIN, but the website seems to suggest I'd need to apply for one whilst submitting a tax return? But I don't have any US income to declare yet???

Suggest trying other banks. We were able to open accounts during AOS with just a passport.

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