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44 minutes ago, missileman said:

Actually, a biopsy is the only certain way....

If you have a tumor or suspect tissue yes, but how do you biopsy certain blood cancers. A biopsy is performed and followed by a PET CT if a tumor or suspect tissue is present. 

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43 minutes ago, tomriesgo said:

Cancer is considered a disability on all employment surveys do you, having USCIS tell you you're not eligible for cancer is absolutely crazy and stupid. Not to say the least they are not going to test for cancer on a medical unless you ask for blood tests with then can only pick up on low/high T cell or white blood cell activity giving reason for further tests to possible cancer,. The only way to diagnose cancer fully is through a PET CT scan. 

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A PET+CT scan is a good tool to establish a baseline and monitor many (but certainly not all) forms of cancer, but they cannot tell you what is cancer or not. The PET scan specifically can show you FGD avid areas. Those areas could be inflammation, infection, cancer, etc.

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17 hours ago, PandT said:

Cancer cannot be transmitted to someone else. 

Neither can epilepsy but I had to declare it. It asks for “any other medical condition for which you are being treated” and also asks about hospital stays and surgeries. Now, if the OP has had a cancer diagnosis it must be declared. If she is worried that the medical may reveal something of which she had no prior knowledge or symptoms, that’s a different matter. 

 

Yes, the purpose is to find diseases which are a public health concern such as TB and STDs, but they also check your eyesight, for example. 

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I don't see how cancer findings would turn up unless a mass is seen on the x-ray. Even then, it's a mass with no confirmation diagnosis. Don't rightly know what they'd be testing blood for except for drug use and STDs, but none of that would show up anything remotely involving cancer. My mother's cancer for instance was never picked up on during routine blood tests by a primary care even. A specialist that ran intensive tests involving the immune system and other markers discovered she had a high probability of cancer based on those tests, but even still that only gave her a possible indication as to where it could be located. Still required a whole team of other doctors and tests for a definitive diagnosis.

 

I think the better statement involving cancer and a medical would be: ''if I have cancer, I must disclose it on the health form''.

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16 minutes ago, tomriesgo said:

If you have a tumor or suspect tissue yes, but how do you biopsy certain blood cancers. A biopsy is performed and followed by a PET CT if a tumor or suspect tissue is present. 

Microscopic cell analysis of blood cells is usually required to verify cell type........and to verify cancer ....a PET can detect changes in mass.

 

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1 hour ago, tomriesgo said:

If you have a tumor or suspect tissue yes, but how do you biopsy certain blood cancers. A biopsy is performed and followed by a PET CT if a tumor or suspect tissue is present. 

 

I don't know about leukemia at all, but with lymphoma, you can do a biopsy of enlarged lymph nodes. 

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22 hours ago, Ella and James said:

They do x-rays and blood and urine tests, would they discover it through that?

Those are not diagnostic.  If the civil surgeon found something questionable, the patient would be referred to a different doctor for more tests.

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2 hours ago, geowrian said:

Can be considered a disability...not "is" a disability.

 

A PET+CT scan is a good tool to establish a baseline and monitor many (but certainly not all) forms of cancer, but they cannot tell you what is cancer or not. The PET scan specifically can show you FGD avid areas. Those areas could be inflammation, infection, cancer, etc.

More useful to evaluate treatment response (I.e. compared to baseline images) than diagnosis.

2 hours ago, tomriesgo said:

If you have a tumor or suspect tissue yes, but how do you biopsy certain blood cancers. A biopsy is performed and followed by a PET CT if a tumor or suspect tissue is present. 

Bone marrow aspirate.

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8 hours ago, nitad3 said:

I belive what you're asking about is what we could call an 'incidental finding or diagnosis' in the clinic. In case of any abnormal findings, I believe they are under the duty of care to inform you about any worrying findings and direct you to a GP practice. After all, they're still doctors who have sworn a Hippocrotical oath. 

 

The x ray is the only diagnostic tool here which could potentially provide any diagnosis such as cancer, and I'll explain why. 

 

If there is a presence of a mass in your lungs for example, this will come up as a 'shadow' on the CXR. On the other hand, if someone is suffering with TB, they will produce what we refer to as 'TB cavity' which commonly affects a specific region of the lungs. This will look completely different to a shadow that a mass has produced. 

 

In terms of the blood test, they can be used to diagnose a wide range of condition something very specific. The clinic uses a yellow tube (known as SST) which is very commonly used for bacterial and viral infections - and in this case syphilis. Whilst a number of tests could be done to analyse this sample, it would be quite time consuming and little more expensive. So, they just do the bare minimum instead of a full panel, which helps to keep the costs down and prevents them from having any unnecessary infromation too. 

 

Hope that makes things a little clearer, there is really nothing to worry about. The people at Knightsbridge are all very friendly, and if you would like to ask some questions they're all happy to answer them. However, if you have any health concerns speak to your GP. 

Chest X-ray is NOT diagnostic for cancer.  If a mass is seen on the images, only a biopsy of the cells can establish the diagnosis.

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16 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Chest X-ray is NOT diagnostic for cancer.  If a mass is seen on the images, only a biopsy of the cells can establish the diagnosis.

I have never stated that CXR is a definitely diagnostic tool. If you read my comment you will see that I said that it is the only diagnostic tool that Knightsbridge could use to detect cancer (ie the only method to even lead them to belive that cancer could be present) There is a substantial difference in my wording. 

 

I think it is pretty obvious that a tissue biopsy is required to make a specific diagnosis, especially to determine the type of neoplasia which could be present. 😉 In the clinic, a single diagnostic tool is rarely used to make a sole diagnosis, commonly a range of different tests have to be used. 

 

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2 minutes ago, nitad3 said:

I have never stated that CXR is a definitely diagnostic tool. If you read my comment you will see that I said that it is the only diagnostic tool that Knightsbridge could use to detect cancer. There is a substantial difference in my wording. 

 

I think it is pretty obvious that a tissue biopsy is required to make a specific diagnosis, especially to determine the type of neoplasia which could be present. 😉 In the clinic, a single diagnostic tool is rarely used to make a sole diagnosis, commonly a range of different tests have to be used. 

 

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Judging by the posts on this thread it is NOT obvious that only a bx would be diagnostic, which is why I responded.  CXR is a screening tool only.

 

OP, it would be rare for the immigration medical exam to “find cancer,” as the purview of that exam is to detect communicable diseases in the potential immigrant which could put Americans at risk.   What would be far more common would be a finding in the medical that would result in a referral to another provider for further tests.  This could be in the form of abnormal lab results, something seen on the CXR, or just from the physical exam.  

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Hi thankfully I don't have cancer but at the time of my medical exam I knew I had a chronic illness. I told them about it and all he suggested was following-up with a specialist in the States for it. That's it. As Jorgedig said, they are more worried about communicable diseases. Hopefully you're only asking out of curiosity and don't have a real concern. All the best to you.

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I just had my medical on Wednesday, the doctor just checked my nose, ears, eyes and mouth, checked my heart, blood pressure and lungs. Took a blood sample and sent me on my way. 

 

I also had to have a chest x-ray, so unless you have something suspicious there (which youd want to know about anyway), it's fine

 

 

I know I'm late to the party here, but this is a recent experience and wanted to let people know

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