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Former Nevada politician alleges Joe Biden kissed the back of her head in 2014, made her feel 'uneasy, gross, and confused'

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

You have to admit, the videos that are out there with the younger girls could be used to help psychologists and cops recognize a "groomer".

 

   Would a "groomer" actually be doing this in a public forum in front of millions? My hunch is if someone was a pedophile, it's something they would go to great lengths to cover up. Hard to believe they would be doing it for years with parents standing right there and all on camera,  and no one directly involved has come forward to accuse or went to police, and none of the psychologists or cops who have come across this have ever raised some type of legal concern.

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Judge Roy Moore comes to mind . This is more similar than what Trump did.

 

I could not care less what two adult's do 

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4 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Would a "groomer" actually be doing this in a public forum in front of millions? 

Maybe...maybe not.......What did Barbara Streisand just say about MJ?  "It's his needs".......

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2 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

Trump

= private citizen

2 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

Biden

= public figure/elected official

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06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

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10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

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05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

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Negatory -- just that a comparison might be unequal.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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1 minute ago, TBoneTX said:

Negatory -- just that a comparison might be unequal.

 

  I wasn't suggesting they were equal, rather I was pointing out a relative measure of hypocrisy being applied. Both have been accused. I would call both out or neither for their behavior. Who is worse is not for me to judge.

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That's fine.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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I have not seen any proof or real allegations Trump committed sexual assault. 

 

Unwanted sexual advances which is pretty much what biden did. Only with kids.

 

Bidens statment might read.  When the are 9 years old you can just walk up and kiss their necks 

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3 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Would a "groomer" actually be doing this in a public forum in front of millions? My hunch is if someone was a pedophile, it's something they would go to great lengths to cover up. Hard to believe they would be doing it for years with parents standing right there and all on camera,  and no one directly involved has come forward to accuse or went to police, and none of the psychologists or cops who have come across this have ever raised some type of legal concern.

I think the point is that no one knows what was going through Joe’s head at the time.  Maybe it is innocent as he sort of suggests, and more than likely it doesn’t rise to the level of sexual assault, but his actions certainly would not pass the harassment test at most businesses.

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Whats ironic is the Pelosi has very publicly,  said she sees no reason biden should not run.

 

Is this the same crowd that wanted to tank Kavanaugh,  becuase he supposedly groped some girl 30 years ago in high school, with zero witnesses. zero facts. And many saying ford was lying 

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46 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I think the point is that no one knows what was going through Joe’s head at the time.  Maybe it is innocent as he sort of suggests, and more than likely it doesn’t rise to the level of sexual assault, but his actions certainly would not pass the harassment test at most businesses.

 

    For sure in this case with Flores (and probably others) it would be unwanted contact and considered sexual harassment. I wasn't disputing that part. It's a quantum leap to go from that to say he's a pedophile because he is touches kids too much. I haven't seen anything he has done that would hold up in court for that.

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59 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    For sure in this case with Flores (and probably others) it would be unwanted contact and considered sexual harassment. I wasn't disputing that part. It's a quantum leap to go from that to say he's a pedophile because he is touches kids too much. I haven't seen anything he has done that would hold up in court for that.

Nor did Kavanaugh,  but yet. 

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