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My fiance's K-1  Visa was approved and we got married in Tucson Arizona  5 weeks after she entered the U.S. on her K-1 Visa. My question is this:  Do we have to notify Immigration or the US Embassy of our marriage? and if not then how does Immigration know if we actually was married within the 90 day rule? Especially if we are not able financially to begin our AOS procedure at this time. Any info is appreciated.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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No notification is needed........you will have your marriage certificate which will be submitted for AOS.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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No one get's notified. File AOS as required and supply the marriage certificate there in the packet.

08/15/2014 : Met Online

06/30/2016 : I-129F Packet Sent

11/08/2016 : Interview - APPROVED!

11/23/2016 : POE - Dallas, Texas

From sending of I-129F petiton to POE - 146 days.

 

02/03/2017 - Married 

02/24/2017 - AOS packet sent

06/01/2017 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received in mail

12/06/2017 - I-485 Approved

12/14/2017 - Green Card Received in mail - No Interview

 

   

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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What are your plans if not filing for AOS? You realize that she'll be unlawfully present & subject to deportation once her 90 days are up? Unable to work or to obtain a DL?

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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Exactly. Once her I-94 expires she will be unlawfully present. Married to you or not she is subject to removal from the US.

 

While the time for it has come and gone, this is why it's critical to plan ahead. I made sure I had all the money set aside for everything before even submitting the I-129f petition originally to ensure it could all be taken care of as needed.

 

You need to figure it out and get it done because it is still a long process ahead of you both to get her EAD/AP and eventual green card.

08/15/2014 : Met Online

06/30/2016 : I-129F Packet Sent

11/08/2016 : Interview - APPROVED!

11/23/2016 : POE - Dallas, Texas

From sending of I-129F petiton to POE - 146 days.

 

02/03/2017 - Married 

02/24/2017 - AOS packet sent

06/01/2017 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received in mail

12/06/2017 - I-485 Approved

12/14/2017 - Green Card Received in mail - No Interview

 

   

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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2 minutes ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

What are your plans if not filing for AOS? You realize that she'll be unlawfully present & subject to deportation once her 90 days are up? Unable to work or to obtain a DL?

As I have said....immigration requires a great deal of knowledge, PLANNING, time, patience, and MONEY.........

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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2 minutes ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

What are your plans if not filing for AOS? You realize that she'll be unlawfully present & subject to deportation once her 90 days are up? Unable to work or to obtain a DL?

I was under the impression that AOS could be filed later, like in a couple of months from now. Finances are not as good now to pay the fees involved.

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22 minutes ago, American1955 said:

Do we have to notify Immigration or the US Embassy of our marriage?

No.

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and if not then how does Immigration know if we actually was married within the 90 day rule?

They know when you entered the country. They require the marriage certificate when filing for AOS. The marriage certificate has a date.

 

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Especially if we are not able financially to begin our AOS procedure at this time. Any info is appreciated.

Why not...? You are unlawfully present after 90 days until you file for AOS. AOS plans and such should have been figured out long before entering on the K-1 visa. It's digging a hole that does not end well many times when they delay (marriage issues + financial issues = trouble, and one tends to lead to the other). It's not a bar for AOS....but it's not good for anybody.

Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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1 minute ago, American1955 said:

I was under the impression that AOS could be filed later, like in a couple of months from now. Finances are not as good now to pay the fees involved.

 

You can as long as you, as mentioned, married within the 90 days. Key thing is she will be unlawfully present once the 90 days passes and her I-94 expires. Married or not, doesn't matter, it's the law.

 

So while you can file months from now technically with no issue, she is at risk and unable to do anything really.

08/15/2014 : Met Online

06/30/2016 : I-129F Packet Sent

11/08/2016 : Interview - APPROVED!

11/23/2016 : POE - Dallas, Texas

From sending of I-129F petiton to POE - 146 days.

 

02/03/2017 - Married 

02/24/2017 - AOS packet sent

06/01/2017 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received in mail

12/06/2017 - I-485 Approved

12/14/2017 - Green Card Received in mail - No Interview

 

   

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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7 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

You can as long as you, as mentioned, married within the 90 days. Key thing is she will be unlawfully present once the 90 days passes and her I-94 expires. Married or not, doesn't matter, it's the law.

 

So while you can file months from now technically with no issue, she is at risk and unable to do anything really.

Thanks for the info from everyone. Will try to "adjust the budget" to get this done ASAP!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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2 minutes ago, American1955 said:

Thanks for the info from everyone. Will try to "adjust the budget" to get this done ASAP!

Good idea....the sooner she files, the faster she can get her EAD, AP, and Green card....good luck.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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* Moved from General Immigration Discussion to AOS from K-1 forum *

Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Denmark
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23 hours ago, American1955 said:

Thanks for the info from everyone. Will try to "adjust the budget" to get this done ASAP!

Don't know if you are aware but the EAD (work permission) and AP (travel permission/can enter back in while AOS is pending)

those fees are waived when filed with the AOS.

 

 

 

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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23 hours ago, American1955 said:

I was under the impression that AOS could be filed later, like in a couple of months from now. Finances are not as good now to pay the fees involved.

You are right, you can file for AOS later, even after the 90-day period has passed. As long as the marriage occurred within the 90-day period after entry (that is, before the date of expiry on her I-94, which you can pull up online at the CBP's website), a visa will always be available to her. You don't need to report the marriage to anyone. When you submit your AOS package, they will notice that the date on the marriage certificate (or certified copy of the marriage license) falls within the 90-day period her K visa gave you. The thing is, after the 90-day period is over, she would be an undocumented immigrant if you don't file for AOS. And if she gets into trouble, she might be deported. No, she won't be deported automatically after the 90-day period; just if she gets arrested or something. You should file for AOS as soon as you can; obviously, the sooner, the better. If you do have some financial hardship, she should just lay low and avoid interacting with the government until you can afford AOS. I attached an screenshot of the instructions for AOS where it clearly states a green card will always be available for her.

 

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I hope you had gotten her SSN so you can file taxes as married (which can be advantageous if she didn't have an income or had a very low income last year). The fact someone is undocumented or an irregular immigrant does not mean they can't file taxes; on the contrary, even immigration courts (in the case of undocumented immigrants who have been apprehended) look at tax payments favorably when making decisions about removals. You could take advantage of the greater standard deduction for married couples filing jointly (assuming you married before December 31st, 2018). If she doesn't have a SSN, you can even file for a ITIN along with your tax return. That might give you a good tax refund, maybe even enough to help you guys with your paying the AOS. This would only be great if she had a very low or no income in her home country, since you would have to make the choice of electing to treat her as a US person (US resident) for tax purposes; that election means she would have to disclose her worldwide income in the tax return (that is her income in her home country for 2018 before coming to the US and any income she earned after arrival to the US). If you chose to treat her as a US resident for tax purposes, such tax return can only be filed via mail because you both would need to sign a letter expressing the choice. It's all on the IRS website.

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