What if vaccination records are not available?

[araxoolie 69]

There is a possibility my fiancée won't be able to get her vaccination records before her medical. What would happen in that case? Is it effectively the same as never having been vaccinated (i.e., vaccines are administered and we move on)?

[Alabamak1 688]

1 minute ago, araxoolie said:

There is a possibility my fiancée won't be able to get her vaccination records before her medical. What would happen in that case? Is it effectively the same as never having been vaccinated (i.e., vaccines are administered and we move on)?

if you don't have any records of vaccines administered, just go ahead and pay for it in the beneficiaries country and save yourself the time, money and headache to do it in the States.

[Loren Y 2,732]

First thing to do is get a tieter test, it is a blood test that will check for the antibodies of any of the required vaccinations. If person has had some vaccinations but doesn't know what ones were done this test will show what they have been vaccinated for, and if they had chickenpox, etc. The test is usually cheap, and the results can be used at the medical exam to not have to get new vaccines( Saves Money), and allows the doctor to mark the ones that are done complete. Then after you know what you need definitely get them done outside the US, as they will be more expensive here for sure.  Get started on this ASAP, as some of the vaccines require multiple shots a few months apart, and while you just need the first shot of the series to be admitted to the US and qualify for the visa, it is in your best interest to have them all complete to save any hassles later.

[Greenbaum 12,258]

42 minutes ago, araxoolie said:

There is a possibility my fiancée won't be able to get her vaccination records before her medical. What would happen in that case? Is it effectively the same as never having been vaccinated (i.e., vaccines are administered and we move on)?

With a combination of visual skin inspection, couple that with an interview and the blood test, your medical center will determine what vaccinations you will need. So don't go to your own Doctor, invest in any kits and don't wait till you are in the states. If you wait till you arrive in the states it will cost 3 times as much. Once you pass the medical then you will have "proof" with the advent of the DS-3025 which you will submit with your AOS package once you are married.

[HP+IC 292]

5 hours ago, Alabamak1 said:

if you don't have any records of vaccines administered, just go ahead and pay for it in the beneficiaries country and save yourself the time, money and headache to do it in the States.

It is much easier said than done. I also don't have records and recently decided to sort out my vaccinations. Some are for life (I am pretty sure I've gotten those it due time but have no proof) and some have to be renewed every 10 years and may take up to 7.5 months (Td) to administer if renewed for the first time (3 shots needed). I'm glad I started just for the sake of my own health and will have time to complete before moving but not before my medical.  But I doubt it is healthy to administer all missing vaccinations within half a year. I still have a 5 months time to my last Td shot and will ask my doctor if I can fit anything in between. So some headache inevitably moves with beneficiary to the US if your records are not available.

Edited October 22, 2018 by HP+IC

[Alabamak1 688]

7 hours ago, HP+IC said:

It is much easier said than done. I also don't have records and recently decided to sort out my vaccinations. Some are for life (I am pretty sure I've gotten those it due time but have no proof) and some have to be renewed every 10 years and may take up to 7.5 months (Td) to administer if renewed for the first time (3 shots needed). I'm glad I started just for the sake of my own health and will have time to complete before moving but not before my medical.  But I doubt it is healthy to administer all missing vaccinations within half a year. I still have a 5 months time to my last Td shot and will ask my doctor if I can fit anything in between. So some headache inevitably moves with beneficiary to the US if your records are not available.

Yes, you may be right about the facts of not being healthy or not. I am not a Dr. and have no opinion on that. What I do know is this, being a immigrant myself and having been through this process and also with my wife.  If you get all necessary shots at one time, you are done and over with it, for health reasons and immigration purposes. K-1 do have the option to get them done here in the US. Now, here is the problem with that.

You do POE and will have plenty of stuff to do before you even think about AOS. 

 

1) After POE go to SS office and get you a SS# (it can take time like ours did, about 2-8 weeks to get one with manual verification)

2) Go together with your fiance and get marriage license and wait for all it is needed for marriage certificate. Some states take much longer than others. Weeks even i have read

3) Find a civil surgeon that does the correct paperwork and administer the appropriate vaccines on time and in the 90 days to not be out of status.

4) Gather all the info for AOS, EAD and AP and get the paperwork done.

 

We had it done in 2 days and shipped to that lockbox. We where never out of status, but EAD is still not in our hands. This is just a possible way to do things, some couples don't even do this and take their time.  The longer you take, the longer it may be for you to get EAP/AP or GC for that matter.

 

Good luck

 

[HP+IC 292]

1 hour ago, Alabamak1 said:

Yes, you may be right about the facts of not being healthy or not. I am not a Dr. and have no opinion on that. What I do know is this, being a immigrant myself and having been through this process and also with my wife.  If you get all necessary shots at one time, you are done and over with it, for health reasons and immigration purposes. K-1 do have the option to get them done here in the US. Now, here is the problem with that.

You do POE and will have plenty of stuff to do before you even think about AOS. 

 

1) After POE go to SS office and get you a SS# (it can take time like ours did, about 2-8 weeks to get one with manual verification)

2) Go together with your fiance and get marriage license and wait for all it is needed for marriage certificate. Some states take much longer than others. Weeks even i have read

3) Find a civil surgeon that does the correct paperwork and administer the appropriate vaccines on time and in the 90 days to not be out of status.

4) Gather all the info for AOS, EAD and AP and get the paperwork done.

 

We had it done in 2 days and shipped to that lockbox. We where never out of status, but EAD is still not in our hands. This is just a possible way to do things, some couples don't even do this and take their time.  The longer you take, the longer it may be for you to get EAP/AP or GC for that matter.

 

Good luck

 

Thank you so much. I generally relate to your timeline to see what we may expect. My fiance is also a naturalized USC but back 20 years ago an adult immigrant either did not need vaccinations or at least he doesn't recall anything of the kind. So he is of little help in this respect. Hopefully, as an adult I will not need the whole package of shots and my K2 kid is duly vaccinated with records. Anyway, I will schedule an appointment with my physician and discuss testing to prevent double vaccination. Hopefully Kiev medical accepts test results showing immunity

 

BTW, in NY GC waiting time is 12+ mos, luckily EAD/AP takes 4 to 6 mos. You go to work and start paying taxes first

Edited October 22, 2018 by HP+IC

[Alabamak1 688]

3 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

Thank you so much. I generally relate to your timeline to see what we may expect. My fiance is also a naturalized USC but back 20 years ago an adult immigrant either did not need vaccinations or at least he doesn't recall anything of the kind. So he is of little help in this respect. Hopefully, as an adult I will not need the whole package of shots and my K2 kid is duly vaccinated with records. Anyway, I will schedule an appointment with my physician and discuss testing to prevent double vaccination. Hopefully Kiev medical accepts test results showing immunity

Well, i am just trying to let you know what the path could be ahead of you. There is a website on the Kiev embassy for you to read about all what happens in the medical phase. Hope this helps. Just post here or PM if you have other concerns

[Marieke H 2,305]

19 hours ago, araxoolie said:

There is a possibility my fiancée won't be able to get her vaccination records before her medical. What would happen in that case? Is it effectively the same as never having been vaccinated (i.e., vaccines are administered and we move on)?

I see your fiancée is from the Netherlands. Does she know that RIVM has records of everyone who has been vaccinated as a child? So she does not need to try to get these records from a doctor. There is an online form to request vaccination records (https://fd10.formdesk.com/rivm/Aanvraag_vaccinatiebewijs), and it should only take a few weeks.

[araxoolie 69]

3 minutes ago, MariekeH said:

I see your fiancée is from the Netherlands. Does she know that RIVM has records of everyone who has been vaccinated as a child? So she does not need to try to get these records from a doctor. There is an online form to request vaccination records (https://fd10.formdesk.com/rivm/Aanvraag_vaccinatiebewijs), and it should only take a few weeks.

That's a useful resource, thanks!

[Fr8dog 312]

I had no official record of mine nor was I aware of the RIVM site. I just got them when I got my medical, can't remember how much they were or what I got. It wasn't bad and this way I was sure he could mark the documents correctly. Just ask them when you call for an appointment. They do it all the time.