Getting Sued using I864 part 2

[Roel 7,191]

11 minutes ago, seantruce said:

So you do think that someone should potentially get in excess of one million dollars for marrying an American and refusing to work.

If they signed a legal document  they read and agreed (assuming they are smart enough to do so ) to suppor the immigrant then yes, they should potentially be forced to pay. 

 

No one forced you to sign it. Or well, no one forces you to tell your wife to forge your signature. No one could see how your marriage will turn out. Stuff happens. YOUR name is on that paperwork and it's on you. Honestly no one will offer you sympathy. Government won't change a policy just because you don't like what you agrees on. It's really time to grow up and come to terms with it all. 

 

As to answer the question you repeated so many times. Yes I believe if couple is in love then their spouses should an able to get a green card if that's what they both want and agree on. No matter how long the marriage is. 

[Crazy Cat 39,874]

36 minutes ago, seantruce said:

My friend brought an American wife to Switzerland. She has to leave if they divorce.

It seems that the Swiss citizen could abuse the foreign spouse and hold deportation over her head as in "You will do whatever I say, or I will divorce you.....you will be deported!" .........is that sound like a good policy?

[azblk 338]

Something is wrong with this picture. i-864 is a contract between the sponsor and the feds.  On what grounds does beneficiary sue under this ?

[Lemonslice 4,632]

1 hour ago, seantruce said:

The wording in the document is confusing, especially when you come to this website and see all of the people explaining how it is unenforceable and never enforced. It is also impossible to marry someone without this contract. I want to find people here to get together and lobby the government against this policy. We should not give status to people using the system in the way that my ex is using the system. This document just encourages marriage fraud.

Marry, move to their country. No one is obligated to move to the US. 

[Marieke H 2,365]

1 hour ago, seantruce said:

My friend brought an American wife to Switzerland. She has to leave if they divorce.

Seems like you have a lot more research to do before starting your big lobbying campaign. First of all, Switzerland is not part of the EU. Second, the EU consists of a lot of countries that all have their individual immigration policies. There is no shared EU immigration policy.

[Unidentified 2,930]

2 minutes ago, MariekeH said:

Seems like you have a lot more research to do before starting your big lobbying campaign. First of all, Switzerland is not part of the EU. Second, the EU consists of a lot of countries that all have their individual immigration policies. There is no shared EU immigration policy.

Plus he mentioned there were "a lot of countries" and he mentioned one. And he mentioned they were kicked out because they couldn't support themselves when that was not the case for Switzerland either. He has no clue. 

[seantruce 5]

52 minutes ago, arken said:

Yes, if that American has agreed upon and signed a contract of his/her willingness to pay.

You think someone should potentially get a million dollars for marrying an American for a year. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

 

If anyone out there is an American wondering about signing the i864, beware of people like this that will squeeze you for the rest of your life.

[seantruce 5]

53 minutes ago, Roel said:

If they signed a legal document  they read and agreed (assuming they are smart enough to do so ) to suppor the immigrant then yes, they should potentially be forced to pay. 

 

No one forced you to sign it. Or well, no one forces you to tell your wife to forge your signature. No one could see how your marriage will turn out. Stuff happens. YOUR name is on that paperwork and it's on you. Honestly no one will offer you sympathy. Government won't change a policy just because you don't like what you agrees on. It's really time to grow up and come to terms with it all. 

 

As to answer the question you repeated so many times. Yes I believe if couple is in love then their spouses should an able to get a green card if that's what they both want and agree on. No matter how long the marriage is. 

So you believe that someone married for a month should be able to get a million dollars for marrying an American.

 

I guess we have to agree to disagree then.

 

Any Americans out there thinking about signing the i864 beware! You are potentially signing your life away.

[seantruce 5]

52 minutes ago, missileman said:

It seems that the Swiss citizen could abuse the foreign spouse and hold deportation over her head as in "You will do whatever I say, or I will divorce you.....you will be deported!" .........is that sound like a good policy?

I think that there is no perfect solution, but yes, if there is a short marriage, then everybody should have the right to support themselves or to go back. I do not think that someone married for a month should be entitled go go after $30k/year for life. Do you?

 

Anyone American thinking of signing an i864 beware!

[seantruce 5]

50 minutes ago, azblk said:

Something is wrong with this picture. i-864 is a contract between the sponsor and the feds.  On what grounds does beneficiary sue under this ?

Here is where the alien can sue the sponsor:

 

https://www.ilw.com/articles/2006,0110-wheeler.shtm

 

There are law firms that specialize in helping immigrants sue the sponsor for the affidavit of support money. It is an industry!

 

Beware any American contemplating signing the i864!

[seantruce 5]

52 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

Marry, move to their country. No one is obligated to move to the US. 

I wish I did.

 

Do you think it is fair that someone can marry an American for a short time and then get $30k per year for not working potentially for life?

 

I recommend that nobody ever sign the Affidavit of Support or at least get a prenuptial agreement that requires reimbursement for this money.

[seantruce 5]

34 minutes ago, MariekeH said:

Seems like you have a lot more research to do before starting your big lobbying campaign. First of all, Switzerland is not part of the EU. Second, the EU consists of a lot of countries that all have their individual immigration policies. There is no shared EU immigration policy.

I agree that I do have a lot more research to do. Thank you. I am definitely not an expert in EU immigration policy.

 

Do you know of any other country besides the US where if you sponsor and immigrant, that you can potentially have to pay over a million dollars if they refuse to work?

 

Beware i864!

[Unidentified 2,930]

3 minutes ago, seantruce said:

I wish I did.

 

Do you think it is fair that someone can marry an American for a short time and then get $30k per year for not working potentially for life?

 

I recommend that nobody ever sign the Affidavit of Support or at least get a prenuptial agreement that requires reimbursement for this money.

 

So how are couples who want to live together in the US supposed to do that without signing a required document?

[seantruce 5]

34 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

Plus he mentioned there were "a lot of countries" and he mentioned one. And he mentioned they were kicked out because they couldn't support themselves when that was not the case for Switzerland either. He has no clue. 

Can you tell me of any other country with a policy like the USA where we have to sign the i864, then we can get sued by the person we are sponsoring and be forced to pay $30k per year, even if we only make $30k per year?

 

Only in America as far as I know, but please educate me.

 

Beware i864!

[Lemonslice 4,632]

2 minutes ago, seantruce said:

I wish I did.

 

Do you think it is fair that someone can marry an American for a short time and then get $30k per year for not working potentially for life?

 

I recommend that nobody ever sign the Affidavit of Support or at least get a prenuptial agreement that requires reimbursement for this money.

Then no one will be able to bring their spouse... Lol

 

Seriously, scammers are going to scam, some Americans scam, some immigrant's do. Most don't.  Before advising anyone to get a prenuptial agreement, I suggest you do some more reading.