Applying for Global Entry while ROC pending

[Dohan 133]

With I-751 pending since October 2017, and biometrics complete, is it possible to apply for Global Entry with Green Card and Extension Letter or best to wait until ROC is complete?

 

 

[geowrian 22,336]

I believe you can apply fine, but know that you can't just go through via the kiosks during that period.

 

A recent post on the subject with personal experiences noted:

 

[AK_2014 113]

Yes, you can apply. (In the online application, just bump your green card expiration date one year ahead of your expired green card date.) The catch is you can't use Global Entry kiosks without a valid green card, although you can bypass the line and go directly to an officer. Also, once you sign up for GE, you also get TSA Pre-Check, and there's no problem about extension letter/expired card to use that.

[mindthegap 2,543]

You can apply and be approved, but cant actually use it properly until you have a valid card.

[solus 19]

We had no problems

[torres10 34]

Can you guys provide a link or something on how to apply for this Global Entry ? Please

[torres10 34]

1 minute ago, Dee elle said:

Google Global Entry

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/global-entry&ved=2ahUKEwjjjvD5iOzZAhWKoFMKHcR2CAQQFjAAegQIBhAD&usg=AOvVaw2qIRuPtXFymVZW2n735PSs

Thank you

[Dohan 133]

PSA: Do NOT bother applying for Global Entry right now. You will NOT be approved. You will only be conditionally approved and have to wait until your new GC comes, as it is tied to the GC and not the letter of extension. 

 

If you apply now, the ONLY benefit you will get is the TSA pre-check. Seeing as it's taking ages for the ROC to be approved, knowing what  I know now, I would not have applied for Global Entry while ROC is pending.

On 3/14/2018 at 10:40 AM, solus said:

We had no problems

Did you get fully approved even though your Green Card was expired? Please elaborate.

[Dohan 133]

On 3/8/2018 at 12:33 PM, AK_2014 said:

Yes, you can apply. (In the online application, just bump your green card expiration date one year ahead of your expired green card date.) The catch is you can't use Global Entry kiosks without a valid green card, although you can bypass the line and go directly to an officer. Also, once you sign up for GE, you also get TSA Pre-Check, and there's no problem about extension letter/expired card to use that.

 

How exactly do you bypass the line if you don't have the GE card? My husband applied and was conditionally approved then went to the enrollment center and they said all he can get now is the TSA pre-check and a known traveler number. When he gets his updated Green Card (haha) to come to the enrollment center and show it to them and only then will they give him the GE card.

[AK_2014 113]

10 minutes ago, Dohan said:

 

How exactly do you bypass the line if you don't have the GE card? My husband applied and was conditionally approved then went to the enrollment center and they said all he can get now is the TSA pre-check and a known traveler number. When he gets his updated Green Card (haha) to come to the enrollment center and show it to them and only then will they give him the GE card.

It sounds like they might have changed their procedures since she applied in late 2016, I think it was; but after the GE interview, she received her GE card in the mail as quickly as I did (and I'm a USC). We knew she wouldn't be able to use a GE kiosk yet, but it's been worth us to have TSA pre-check from the get-go, as we travel quite a bit domestically and it makes security that much quicker and less of a hassle each time, plus we don't have to go through in two different lines.

 

She was told at the interview to "try" the kiosk — it wouldn't work of course with the expired GC — and then walk to the front and explain that she had GE and an expired GC. Either they let her through fairly quickly, or sometimes sent her to secondary anyway (likely because of the extension letter / i-551 stamp; glad that period is finally behind us!).

 

She finally got the 10-year GC a few months ago, and recently stopped by the airport on an outbound trip to update her GC dates with the GE office, quick and painless, no appointment needed. So now when she returns in a couple of days, she should be able to use the kiosk itself for the first time.

 

FYI, you should know that you never actually use the GE card at a kiosk -- the kiosks only accept passports / green cards. (You can use the GE card for land & sea crossings, but you don't use it for air travel.)

Read here for specifics on what the actual GE card can/cannot be used for: https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/global-entry/card

Edited April 2, 2018 by AK_2014

[Dohan 133]

@AK_2014 thank you for your response. He was not given a card, maybe one will come in the mail? I wonder. When she goes to the immigration officer, is she then asked to show that she has  GE card to be allowed to the front of the line? He just has a known traveler number for now... We had  his interview on Friday last week. 

[AK_2014 113]

57 minutes ago, Dohan said:

@AK_2014 thank you for your response. He was not given a card, maybe one will come in the mail? I wonder. When she goes to the immigration officer, is she then asked to show that she has  GE card to be allowed to the front of the line? He just has a known traveler number for now... We had  his interview on Friday last week. 

Her GE card came in the mail after the interview. I don't know if she's brought the card on international trips or not, to show to officers in that case, or just told them and they looked her up in the system. Could be worth a try. In the meantime, start enjoying your PreCheck access! If he's already booked any upcoming domestic trips, he should be able to add the KTN to the reservation. :-)

[astoldbyme 0]

Has anybody tied manually type in the A# to the GE kiosks while having an expired GE with valid extension letter?

I think CBP must have the updated expiry date in their system tied with the A#.  It might only be the GE kiosks rejecting expired GCs automatically.

[AK_2014 113]

1 minute ago, astoldbyme said:

Has anybody tied manually type in the A# to the GE kiosks while having an expired GE with valid extension letter?

I think CBP must have the updated expiry date in their system tied with the A#.  It might only be the GE kiosks rejecting expired GCs automatically.

My wife did try that, and it didn't work for her.

[astoldbyme 0]

Just now, AK_2014 said:

My wife did try that, and it didn't work for her.

Thank you for letting me know.  Guess I have to settle with cutting the lines only then.

With my type of ROC taking 25-30 months, I certainly will relearn how to talk to CBP officers.