After being deported 3 times in 3 months, he came back with $400,000 of meth for sale

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

30 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

whenever there's a mass shooting and the mdl starts talking about ...'how many times does this have to happen before we up our gun control' the response from the right is 'enforce the existing gun control'. 

 

but when it comes to illegal immigrants and crime, the fact that we deport criminals and don't offer any sort of amnesty for criminals is completely ignored.

 

the right can't entertain even a convo about strengthening gun control laws but we can flush 20 billion on a wall no questions asked..and never mind mexico paying for it. 

 

 

 

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Funny the MDL is not for enforcing current immigration law 

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Funny the MDL is not for enforcing current immigration law 

you also think under obama we had open borders. i'm not surprised you get this wrong too.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

my bad, the right wants to enforce the current laws, erase the eight years obama was president, and build a multibillion dollar wall that will not solve the problem. mexicans aren't the only illegals, yet they're the only group discussed here.

i do not agree with you concerning daca in the slightest. 

and your inability to understand the concept of free movement could not be more apparent to me. do you really think that i want open borders so people without proper documentation can live here under the radar as second (more like third or fourth) class citizens? i'm way too humanitarian to want such a life for anyone.

I’m pretty sure you have said before that you support the concept of open borders.  In fact, I think you said you were the only person on here who ever talked about wanting that.  If that is wrong, my apologies.

 

We cannot erase the previous 8 years.  Nor the previous 100.  We can simply learn from the mistakes and (hopefully) do better.  The amnesty granted in the 80’s, while seemingly just as humane as DACA, did NOTHING to stem the flow of illegals.  And how do you know you don’t agree with me on DACA, since you don’t really have any idea how I feel about them?  (Just because you disagree with much of what I say, perhaps?)

 

Mexicans are used in general because they comprise the largest majority of illegals, simply because their entry here is the simplest.  Last I recall, Mexicans were about 56% of all illegals, and counting South & Central America, about 77%.  (I am guessing that when the majority of people mention Mexico, they are referring to this 75% or greater number, not actually Mexicans per se) So the wall would be built to combat that amount of illegals, those who actually have the ability to walk over. (Of course, there are those who fly or boat into the US)

 

I don’t have any inabilities (except perhaps with poorly worded posts) to understand concepts other than strict immigration control.  I enjoy free movement, so I know full well what it is.  Unfortunately, just like gun control and legal immigration, there are a large number of people who will not follow the rules that would allow them to enjoy said free movement.  And I DO have a problem with people breaking our laws and doing it illegally.

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Just now, IDWAF said:

I’m pretty sure you have said before that you support the concept of open borders.  In fact, I think you said you were the only person on here who ever talked about wanting that.  If that is wrong, my apologies.

 

We cannot erase the previous 8 years.  Nor the previous 100.  We can simply learn from the mistakes and (hopefully) do better.  The amnesty granted in the 80’s, while seemingly just as humane as DACA, did NOTHING to stem the flow of illegals.  And how do you know you don’t agree with me on DACA, since you don’t really have any idea how I feel about them?  (Just because you disagree with much of what I say, perhaps?)

 

Mexicans are used in general because they comprise the largest majority of illegals, simply because their entry here is the simplest.  Last I recall, Mexicans were about 56% of all illegals, and counting South & Central America, about 77%.  (I am guessing that when the majority of people mention Mexico, they are referring to this 75% or greater number, not actually Mexicans per se) So the wall would be built to combat that amount of illegals, those who actually have the ability to walk over. (Of course, there are those who fly or boat into the US)

 

I don’t have any inabilities (except perhaps with poorly worded posts) to understand concepts other than strict immigration control.  I enjoy free movement, so I know full well what it is.  Unfortunately, just like gun control and legal immigration, there are a large number of people who will not follow the rules that would allow them to enjoy said free movement.  And I DO have a problem with people breaking our laws and doing it illegally.

never said i didn't, you don't understand what open borders means. it's not a free for all.

i've never looked at amnesty as a means to 'stem the flow of illegals'. i've looked at it as a means to offer amnesty.

 

and no, you do not fully well know what the concept of free movement is.  read up.

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9 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

you also think under obama we had open borders. i'm not surprised you get this wrong too.

How about you stop with the remarks that denigrate everyone, and try using your words to explain how YOU feel?  If only you could express yourself better, instead of talking down to everyone with whom you do not agree, we could better understand you, and have more productive threads.  (I am not saying you are the only one doing it, but you just did it about 3-5 times in this thread alone)

 

Are you “not surprised”, because NB isn’t as smart as you?  Because he has no compassion?  Or because you are morally superior to him and me?  What DO YOU mean, when yo say you are not surprised?

 

And for the record, I have never seen a post by NB saying we currently have (nor had under Obama) open borders.  He has asked people if they think that is a solution, but not said that is what we have now.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

never said i didn't, you don't understand what open borders means. it's not a free for all.

i've never looked at amnesty as a means to 'stem the flow of illegals'. i've looked at it as a means to offer amnesty.

 

and no, you do not fully well know what the concept of free movement is.  read up.

Actually, I DO understand the concept of free movement.  See?  There you go again, telling other people what they think.  Talk about trying to aggravate people...

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement 

 

If you are talking about the movement of people.  As I said, I know what it is, because I have been enjoying it for many years now.  If you are referring to another type of “free movement” feel free to post up about it.

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2 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

How about you stop with the remarks that denigrate everyone, and try using your words to explain how YOU feel?  If only you could express yourself better, instead of talking down to everyone with whom you do not agree, we could better understand you, and have more productive threads.  (I am not saying you are the only one doing it, but you just did it about 3-5 times in this thread alone)

 

Are you “not surprised”, because NB isn’t as smart as you?  Because he has no compassion?  Or because you are morally superior to him and me?  What DO YOU mean, when yo say you are not surprised?

 

And for the record, I have never seen a post by NB saying we currently have (nor had under Obama) open borders.  He has asked people if they think that is a solution, but not said that is what we have now.

well, since it's for the record...my official response is :

 

lol. yes i am morally superior to you and everyone else here. i am god like. i know so much nb will never even come close to the depths of my wisdom. my compassion is so compassionate, it's cold. i do not expect you to understand. i am not surprised my denigrating comments cause you and your mortal comrades to fall silent with utter shock, total discombobulation of all your major brain function. MUHAHAHAHA.

 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

22 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

well, since it's for the record...my official response is :

 

lol. yes i am morally superior to you and everyone else here. i am god like. i know so much nb will never even come close to the depths of my wisdom. my compassion is so compassionate, it's cold. i do not expect you to understand. i am not surprised my denigrating comments cause you and your mortal comrades to fall silent with utter shock, total discombobulation of all your major brain function. MUHAHAHAHA.

 

Thanks for throwing me an honorable mention,  you rock 😁

[Boiler 46,867]

Maybe tired of making sandwich's and needs some illegals to do it?

[mustang85635 182]

4 hours ago, smilesammich said:

never said i didn't, you don't understand what open borders means. it's not a free for all.

i've never looked at amnesty as a means to 'stem the flow of illegals'. i've looked at it as a means to offer amnesty.

 

and no, you do not fully well know what the concept of free movement is.  read up.

LOooOOOOOOOOL 

NOW ADVOCATING FOR FREE MOVEMENT? Lol you keep getting better. 

All of europe fences and walls are being built the free movement is being stopped because of the disaster that has happened and is happening every single day . Thousands of unidentified people entering germany for example creating chaos at and unprecedented rate. I can educate you a little (which you badly need) if you PM me about the current election and coalition talks that are happening. According to latest polling (few days old) The far right "ALTERNATIVE FOR GERMANY " which is a party formed mainly opposing what has happened in terms of open borders and free movement and restricting immigration. It is now equal to the second older and most popular party the SPD which was formed more then 60 years ago ( equivelent to the democratic party ). Since the election it is the strongest opposition party pulling in ahead of the many parties that have existed for decades (green party, liberal party , left party). 

But you wont care about facts like that anyway, it is so much easier to just say WALLS DONT WORK, NO HUMAN BEING IS ILLEGAL ,BLABLABLABA 

 

You need to do some more research into the things that you are advocating for. 

This is not the crazy loony WaPo comment section where you can share your alt left conspiracy theories. No Donald Trump wont be impeached and open borders dont work. 

 

Also stop dodging my question if you reply. According to your logic you should would also be in favor of tightening up rental car issuance. Correct ? 

 

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It a good thing that democrat politicians were never in charge of building prisons. Walls don’t work

 

 

 

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

10 hours ago, mustang85635 said:

LOooOOOOOOOOL 

NOW ADVOCATING FOR FREE MOVEMENT? Lol you keep getting better. 

All of europe fences and walls are being built the free movement is being stopped because of the disaster that has happened and is happening every single day . Thousands of unidentified people entering germany for example creating chaos at and unprecedented rate. I can educate you a little (which you badly need) if you PM me about the current election and coalition talks that are happening. According to latest polling (few days old) The far right "ALTERNATIVE FOR GERMANY " which is a party formed mainly opposing what has happened in terms of open borders and free movement and restricting immigration. It is now equal to the second older and most popular party the SPD which was formed more then 60 years ago ( equivelent to the democratic party ). Since the election it is the strongest opposition party pulling in ahead of the many parties that have existed for decades (green party, liberal party , left party). 

But you wont care about facts like that anyway, it is so much easier to just say WALLS DONT WORK, NO HUMAN BEING IS ILLEGAL ,BLABLABLABA 

 

You need to do some more research into the things that you are advocating for. 

This is not the crazy loony WaPo comment section where you can share your alt left conspiracy theories. No Donald Trump wont be impeached and open borders dont work. 

 

Also stop dodging my question if you reply. According to your logic you should would also be in favor of tightening up rental car issuance. Correct ? 

 

keep getting better? i haven't changed. no human being is illegal. yeah, i firmly believe that. i don't advocate for open borders or free movement here, i advocate following immigration law - i do not want potential immigrants or their families to make a mistake that can ruin their future.

i get that you're anti immigrant and anti liberal..basically anti any idea that does not line up with your position on things. i'm not trying to change your mind on anything, and i can assure you - i will never hold your values. 

i'm not dodging your question, what is your question? i admit i don't always read your posts, i don't see a point. your question is am i in favor of tightening up rental car issuance? silly, totally off the wall question but, no. i don't.

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4 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

keep getting better? i haven't changed. no human being is illegal. yeah, i firmly believe that. i don't advocate for open borders or free movement here, i advocate following immigration law - i do not want potential immigrants or their families to make a mistake that can ruin their future.

i get that you're anti immigrant and anti liberal..basically anti any idea that does not line up with your position on things. i'm not trying to change your mind on anything, and i can assure you - i will never hold your values. 

i'm not dodging your question, what is your question? i admit i don't always read your posts, i don't see a point. your question is am i in favor of tightening up rental car issuance? silly, totally off the wall question but, no. i don't.

Hmmm

 

Being both an Immigrant and Liberal I had not come to that conclusion.

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Hmmm

 

Being both an Immigrant and Liberal I had not come to that conclusion.

what conclusion.