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Good morning,

 

I am trying to gather paperworks to present to USCIS as they requested more evidence.

I know having joint account in bank can be very important proof that our marrige is in good shape.

However, if we print out statement from the time I joined my husband's account, the amount of

papers needed will be huge! I don't really want to print out everything.

Requirement for RFE is "Copies of bank statement that reflect joint/savings and /or checking

accounts to include the transaction pages for each bank statement period".

 

You think will it be ok not to provide banking information, but we will provide joint tax return

transcrips and copies of lease of apartments we lived in the past?

I can probably ask bank a document stating my name is on my husband's account. But

USCIS may not see as a proof.


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12 minutes ago, KC & SC said:

Good morning,

 

I am trying to gather paperworks to present to USCIS as they requested more evidence.

I know having joint account in bank can be very important proof that our marrige is in good shape.

However, if we print out statement from the time I joined my husband's account, the amount of

papers needed will be huge! I don't really want to print out everything.

Requirement for RFE is "Copies of bank statement that reflect joint/savings and /or checking

accounts to include the transaction pages for each bank statement period".

 

You think will it be ok not to provide banking information, but we will provide joint tax return

transcrips and copies of lease of apartments we lived in the past?

I can probably ask bank a document stating my name is on my husband's account. But

USCIS may not see as a proof.

Yes, you have to include all the pages on each statements for them not to think that you omitted anything. It is important that they will see your name and your spouse name on the statements and all the transactions that both of you contributed on all the expenses. They want to see the co-mingling assets and liabilities so bank statements are really big matter to them that's why they included on RFE that you need to send those statements.

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Hmmm. Banking statement is not the only evidence we can submit. So I won't provide banking info.

But will provide tax returns and copies of apartment lease, and others.

I will still go to bank and ask what they can do. But last time we asked about statement, thy said they will charge

5 dollars per page. Online banking only shows the transaction from July 2016.


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IF they specifically asked for bank statements then you should provide all the bank statements you have.  You can send statement from July 2016 to Present. That will be 1.5 yrs of statements. 

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4 minutes ago, dnp2014 said:

IF they specifically asked for bank statements then you should provide all the bank statements you have.  You can send statement from July 2016 to Present. That will be 1.5 yrs of statements. 

Yes it was instructed so the OP need to follow what ever the USCIS wants them to send. Now of course OP cannot provide if in case they dont have the paperwork that the USCIS want them to send so the best things to do is to make a letter explaining why they cannot provide the paperwork that USCIS asked them to send.

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05/11/17: Date of I-751
05/12/17: VSC received our package

05/12/17: NOA Date
05/14/17: NOA Arrived in the mail & check cashed

06/22/17: Biometrics Appointment at ASC Manhattan

04/09/18: Online changed to case transferred to local office but no actual letter

06/13/18: Card Being Produced - NO RFE/NO INTERVIEW

06/16/18: Approval Letter arrived in the mail with 06/13/18 approval date

06/18/18: Card was picked up by USPS

06/20/18: Received 10 years Green Card from the mail

 

E-FILING (IOE) N-400 APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION

 

06/21/18: Submitted Online
06/22/18: Received NOA Online

06/23/18: Online account updated to Biometrics scheduled on 07/12

06/25/18: NOA letter arrived in the mail

06/28/18: Biometrics appointment letter arrived in the mail

07/12/18: Biometrics appointment at ASC Manhattan

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Do you think it is ok not to submit banking statement? We submitted in original I-751, but came back saying not enough information.

I prefer not print out at home and pay bank a lot of money for past transaction.

We plant to re-submit joint tax return and apartment lease contracts reflecting the day we got married.


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1 hour ago, KC & SC said:

Requirement for RFE is "Copies of bank statement that reflect joint/savings and /or checking

accounts to include the transaction pages for each bank statement period".

 

You think will it be ok not to provide banking information, but we will provide joint tax return

transcrips and copies of lease of apartments we lived in the past?

If the RFE is specifically asking for the bank statements----send the bank statements.

Sending something else in it's place (when USCIS specifically requested something) may just lead to another RFE for the documents they required in the first place, and delay your case even longer.


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7 minutes ago, KC & SC said:

Do you think it is ok not to submit banking statement? We submitted in original I-751, but came back saying not enough information.

I prefer not print out at home and pay bank a lot of money for past transaction.

We plant to re-submit joint tax return and apartment lease contracts reflecting the day we got married.

Seriously its up to you if you want to drag this out and end up with an interview :D ...

 

For RFE you should submit whatever you have to prove bona fide marriage ..

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I am so confused as to why you're so persistent that you would not submit bank statements. If the RFE requests for bank statements, then you need to provide the bank statements. If you use online banking, bank statements gets uploaded at the end of the month to your online account, just look for a printer somewhere and print them. you don't have to pay the bank to get them. You cannot resubmit what was not requested from you. 

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i submitted my roc in like may 2016... i included every bank statement from jan 2013 (before I moved.)  Each one is about 9 pages.  If they want them, SEND THEM.  


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Just send the lot.

My pile of credit card and bank statements was about 12" high (double sided printing too).

 


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Thanks! I will print out what I can and get the rest from bank. They will charge 5 dollars per month of transactoins....:huh:

Funny thing is that USCIS asked for a lot of evidence but they only sent me very small envelope. How am I supposed to shove everthing in. lol.

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12 minutes ago, KC & SC said:

Thanks! I will print out what I can and get the rest from bank. They will charge 5 dollars per month of transactoins....:huh:

Funny thing is that USCIS asked for a lot of evidence but they only sent me very small envelope. How am I supposed to shove everthing in. lol.

I'd say send only relevant pages (for example pg 1-4).  A typical personal bank account usually doesn't have more than a couple of pages of transactions. Dont have to send irrelevant advertisements, notices, etc that accompany the statements. 


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2 minutes ago, WeGuyGal said:

I'd say send only relevant pages (for example pg 1-4).  A typical personal bank account usually doesn't have more than a couple of pages of transactions. Dont have to send irrelevant advertisements, notices, etc that accompany the statements. 

I would say send all the pages so USCIS wont think that OP did not omitted any pages or falsify the statements.


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05/11/17: Date of I-751
05/12/17: VSC received our package

05/12/17: NOA Date
05/14/17: NOA Arrived in the mail & check cashed

06/22/17: Biometrics Appointment at ASC Manhattan

04/09/18: Online changed to case transferred to local office but no actual letter

06/13/18: Card Being Produced - NO RFE/NO INTERVIEW

06/16/18: Approval Letter arrived in the mail with 06/13/18 approval date

06/18/18: Card was picked up by USPS

06/20/18: Received 10 years Green Card from the mail

 

E-FILING (IOE) N-400 APPLICATION FOR NATURALIZATION

 

06/21/18: Submitted Online
06/22/18: Received NOA Online

06/23/18: Online account updated to Biometrics scheduled on 07/12

06/25/18: NOA letter arrived in the mail

06/28/18: Biometrics appointment letter arrived in the mail

07/12/18: Biometrics appointment at ASC Manhattan

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