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“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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'The whole of country needs to come together to take on this extremism and we need to live our lives not in a series of separate, segregated communities but as one truly United Kingdom.' 

 

This is the main problem and it is a world wide problem. In the coming days you will hear stories from people saying they knew the attackers were reading extremist material and they are just back from holiday in Libya. But yet no one spoke up or came forward, in my eyes the victims blood is as much on the hands of those who stayed quiet as those who perpetrated the attacks. This is a Muslim problem and only one that can be solved by the members within their community coming forward earlier and turning these scumbags into the police. If they wont come forward maybe its time to bring the internment camps back.

 

Let's wait for the Muslim apologists to come forward now and remind us that the Muslims are the victims. 

 

I am not a fan of Theresa May but she is 100% right when she says enough is enough, no more apologising.

 

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/31/sensitive-uk-terror-funding-inquiry-findings-may-never-be-published-saudi-arabia

May is all talk, no trousers!!!

stop doing deals with the Saudis - say no to salifist ideology!!!

 

to quote Churchill

This is a time for everyone to stand together and hold firm, as they are doing!

(now off to tee with Donnie in Va.)

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16 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

'The whole of country needs to come together to take on this extremism and we need to live our lives not in a series of separate, segregated communities but as one truly United Kingdom.' 

 

This is the main problem and it is a world wide problem. In the coming days you will hear stories from people saying they knew the attackers were reading extremist material and they are just back from holiday in Libya. But yet no one spoke up or came forward, in my eyes the victims blood is as much on the hands of those who stayed quiet as those who perpetrated the attacks. This is a Muslim problem and only one that can be solved by the members within their community coming forward earlier and turning these scumbags into the police. If they wont come forward maybe its time to bring the internment camps back.

 

Let's wait for the Muslim apologists to come forward now and remind us that the Muslims are the victims. 

 

I am not a fan of Theresa May but she is 100% right when she says enough is enough, no more apologising.

 

 

 Totally agree, it can no longer be acceptable to turn a blind eye to extremism in any form.

Those Muslims who do not agree with the extremist views have to be vocal, pro active and be seen to doing all they can to stop these atrocities.

 

It is not being racist or xenophobic to ask this, these people are in the best position to stop this, to identify those heading down the extremist route.

If anyone (and I don't care what color, religion or nationality they are) knows of extremism and does nothing then they are as guilty as those carrying out the attacks.

 

Its no good moderate Muslims pointing out all the good that people of Muslim faith do when these atrocities are being carried out in the name of their faith, being a doctor who patches up the victim or a taxi driver giving free rides is good but nowhere near as powerful a message as being the person who stopped the attack from happening.

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6 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/31/sensitive-uk-terror-funding-inquiry-findings-may-never-be-published-saudi-arabia

May is all talk, no trousers!!!

stop doing deals with the Saudis - say no to salifist ideology!!!

 

to quote Churchill

This is a time for everyone to stand together and hold firm, as they are doing!

(now off to tee with Donnie in Va.)

Oh Saudi Arabia attacked London, my apologies.

 

Why not crack another Donnie joke so I can have a laugh.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, trudi said:

 Totally agree, it can no longer be acceptable to turn a blind eye to extremism in any form.

Those Muslims who do not agree with the extremist views have to be vocal, pro active and be seen to doing all they can to stop these atrocities.

 

It is not being racist or xenophobic to ask this, these people are in the best position to stop this, to identify those heading down the extremist route.

If anyone (and I don't care what color, religion or nationality they are) knows of extremism and does nothing then they are as guilty as those carrying out the attacks.

 

Its no good moderate Muslims pointing out all the good that people of Muslim faith do when these atrocities are being carried out in the name of their faith, being a doctor who patches up the victim or a taxi driver giving free rides is good but nowhere near as powerful a message as being the person who stopped the attack from happening.

And yet Muslims of the community, even family members, did come forward, for years in fact, regarding the Manchester bomber, and the government did nothing. I suspect, we're going to find a similar pattern emerge... and it's disgustingly predictable. As often happens in such attacks, the government knows about these individuals... and do not act. Police forces have been severely cut across the country, the government is supposedly aware of many dangerous individuals but have not as of yet removed or prosecuted them, the government specifically gained power to invade every facet of British private life in the interest of stopping terrorism but has yet to really use such power (and it hasn't worked out well for them), their community outreach has been poor, in particular they have utilized and paid some 'community leaders' who other moderate Muslims have accused of being self-serving and only in it for money and votes and not solving problems (this is actually no different than the corrupt community leaders in our inner cities today). The government has also done hypocritical deals with sponsors of terrorism in the goal of protecting interests at the expense of their citizens. London government is tone-deaf to the issues facing the rest of the UK.

 

8 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

The problem is real. How can it be stopped? 

There are people that say this is the new normal.. horrific violence I mean. My husband points out to me that there is horrific violence that goes on in our American cities every single day. And no they aren't people wanting to kill others for some religious ideology, but they are people murdering others for any reason or no reason at all. As a person who grew up in the city of daily violence it was the normal then. And it is the normal now. Can hatred in all it's forms be cured? Unlikely... but it is the real problem that is rarely addressed. People in the UK are not as vigilant as they can be. My husband will admit this, because violence is not the same problem there as it is here. When armed officers patrol the streets, people often react fearfully instead of feeling more confident or safe. Look online right now and you'll see the hatred spewed as the new knee-jerk reaction. What they don't realize is that they are doing exactly what the murderers want. Their hatred is contributing to part of the problem. The UK having bombers with religious and political ideology isn't new and they shouldn't kid themselves about that. They've been there before. Where did hatred get them then?

 

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When I started work I often walked through that area, much more grungy back then, and Borough Market was just down the road from where I lived before moving to the US and often shopped there, I was watching the coverage and recognised pubs I frequented.

 

There are 4 millions Muslims in the UK, tens of thousands radicalised, well nobody knows how many, how do you keep an eye on all of them?

 

 

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May be too late 

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Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

May be too late 

Pun?

 

I am sure it is too late.

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8 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

And yet Muslims of the community, even family members, did come forward, for years in fact, regarding the Manchester bomber, and the government did nothing. I suspect, we're going to find a similar pattern emerge... and it's disgustingly predictable. As often happens in such attacks, the government knows about these individuals... and do not act. Police forces have been severely cut across the country, the government is supposedly aware of many dangerous individuals but have not as of yet removed or prosecuted them, the government specifically gained power to invade every facet of British private life in the interest of stopping terrorism but has yet to really use such power (and it hasn't worked out well for them), their community outreach has been poor, in particular they have utilized and paid some 'community leaders' who other moderate Muslims have accused of being self-serving and only in it for money and votes and not solving problems (this is actually no different than the corrupt community leaders in our inner cities today). The government has also done hypocritical deals with sponsors of terrorism in the goal of protecting interests at the expense of their citizens. London government is tone-deaf to the issues facing the rest of the UK.

 

There are people that say this is the new normal.. horrific violence I mean. My husband points out to me that there is horrific violence that goes on in our American cities every single day. And no they aren't people wanting to kill others for some religious ideology, but they are people murdering others for any reason or no reason at all. As a person who grew up in the city of daily violence it was the normal then. And it is the normal now. Can hatred in all it's forms be cured? Unlikely... but it is the real problem that is rarely addressed. People in the UK are not as vigilant as they can be. My husband will admit this, because violence is not the same problem there as it is here. When armed officers patrol the streets, people often react fearfully instead of feeling more confident or safe. Look online right now and you'll see the hatred spewed as the new knee-jerk reaction. What they don't realize is that they are doing exactly what the murderers want. Their hatred is contributing to part of the problem. The UK having bombers with religious and political ideology isn't new and they shouldn't kid themselves about that. They've been there before. Where did hatred get them then?

 

I got as far as it's the government fault. 

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Just now, ccneat said:

Did you even read the article?

You like asking me that don't you? 

 

Is there something in my replies that lead you to believe that I don't read the provided links.

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Just now, Mr&Mrs G. said:

You like asking me that don't you? 

 

Is there something in my replies that lead you to believe that I don't read the provided links.

1 I don't remember asking you that question. 

2 Yes

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1 minute ago, ccneat said:

1 I don't remember asking you that question. 

2 Yes

1. It's either the second or third time you have asked me in threads have I read the link.

2. I reread the article and still don't see anything about the Saudi's attacking London last night

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