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Boiler Grand Master

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The requirements are really simple:

 

  • Best care
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  • Immediate availability
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  • Somebody else pays

 

Any system meeting those fundamentals will be a winner.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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spookyturtle
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Sounds good. Get rid of health care for those that can't afford it. Survival of the fittest, the rest be damned. And take care of the insurance companies because they have have our best interests at h

Amica Nostra
Amica Nostra

Steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they name you the king.

Dakine10
Dakine10

You left out the part where it says other countries with universal care have better wait times and lower costs and/or private sector alternatives. You also completely made up the part about this list

Teddy B Grand Master

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10 minutes ago, Boiler said:

The requirements are really simple:

 

  • Best care
  •  
  • Immediate availability
  •  
  • Somebody else pays

 

Any system meeting those fundamentals will be a winner.

Put me down for two please.

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2 hours ago, Boiler said:

Interesting story on Obamacare:

 

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/06/what-if-theres-no-affordable-insurance-to-buy/

 

Leslie Kurtz needed three plates, eight screws and a big assist from her insurer after breaking every bone in her ankle while white water rafting.

 

 

what she needed was white water rafting insurance.

* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

 

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24 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

I wasn't aware of what healthcare system Israel had, nor did I know they were ranked so high. I like the way that system sounds, especially the fact that healthcare is a fundamental right. I don't understand why it is not a fundamental right in the US.

Yeah, life expectancy is higher than the US quite significantly. Doesn't come without its issues though, I have explained in the past about the "basket" of covered services and how they can only stretch the budget so far so some things get left out even though people still have to pay for healthcare. I can't find the thread right now for some reason but the example I have is them making dental care free for children. But if I'm someone whose medications were taken out, medications that can save my life and say I don't have kids, just so that someone else's kids could get free dental care I wouldn't be very happy. So it's a trade off I guess. There's some more info about the advantages and disadvantages here - http://ldi.upenn.edu/news/overview-israels-universal-health-care-system

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3 hours ago, ccneat said:

the point of the ACA

1.  Health insurance doesn't automatically equate to health care.

2.  0bummercare was never about health care.  It was about achieving a government takeover of 1/7th of the U.S. economy.

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13 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

1.  Health insurance doesn't automatically equate to health care.

2.  0bummercare was never about health care.  It was about achieving a government takeover of 1/7th of the U.S. economy.

1. If you do not have insurance you will have a problem getting admitted to an emergency room and the prices you pay are 2 to 3 times what the insurance company pays.  Yes you can shop around but in reality once you are in the hospital you are stuck. 

2. So how does the republican plan solve this problem?

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10 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

1.  Health insurance doesn't automatically equate to health care.

2.  0bummercare was never about health care.  It was about achieving a government takeover of 1/7th of the U.S. economy.

1.health insurance should equate affordable (for everyone) healthcare.

2.reminds me of that time obama took everyone's guns away and instituted sharia law across the u.s.

Boiler Grand Master

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5 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

1.health insurance should equate affordable (for everyone) healthcare.

2.reminds me of that time obama took everyone's guns away and instituted sharia law across the u.s.

Health Insurance is just a funding mechanism, I do not understand the connection with affordable healthcare.

 

Nobody is saying Obama managed to get everything he wanted through.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Health Insurance is just a funding mechanism, I do not understand the connection with affordable healthcare.

 

Nobody is saying Obama managed to get everything he wanted through.

uh, it's a funding mechanism we pay for. duh. 

from where ya'll sit, he didn't get a damn thing. you get your mandatory muslim brotherhood membership card in the mail yet?

 

 

Boiler Grand Master

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However it is funded somebody has to pay, hard concept I know.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Teddy B Grand Master

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20 minutes ago, ccneat said:

1. If you do not have insurance you will have a problem getting admitted to an emergency room and the prices you pay are 2 to 3 times what the insurance company pays.  Yes you can shop around but in reality once you are in the hospital you are stuck. 

2. So how does the republican plan solve this problem?

It prevents you from ever going to the hospital in the first place, problem solved.

Boiler Grand Master

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1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

funding - one thing

policy cost - another thing

 

see the two things? 

 

You have to fund the policy cost?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Boiler Grand Master

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3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

no. now see why are you singling out just one of the things?

Huh

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

 

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