How Liberals view Blacks.

[eieio 1,594]

I am sure some liberals see it differently…as do a small number of blacks, but overall this is accurate.

Voter ID laws only make sense. Those who oppose voter ID laws are only those who realize it will make it harder to cheat.

[jg121783 3,917]

Minorities are simply a voting block for them. Beyond that they could care less about them.

[bcking 3,157]

Wonderful sweeping generalizations from a 4 minute video.

Do you have any idea how easy it would be to string together a 4 minute video from Trump rallies and title it "How Trump supporters view blacks"? I'm sure there is one already out there.

Bottom line both videos would be #######. Sweeping generalizations about a large vague group of people ("liberals", "trump supporters", "right-wing", "left-wing" etc...) are useless. It doesn't reflect well on you to keep posting stuff like this.

[JayJayH 546]

Wonderful sweeping generalizations from a 4 minute video.

Do you have any idea how easy it would be to string together a 4 minute video from Trump rallies and title it "How Trump supporters view blacks"? I'm sure there is one already out there.

Bottom line both videos would be #######. Sweeping generalizations about a large vague group of people ("liberals", "trump supporters", "right-wing", "left-wing" etc...) are useless. It doesn't reflect well on you to keep posting stuff like this.

I agree.

But I have noticed an assumption among a lot of people on the left that " people think this" and the subtle hint that people who aren't in line are "race traitors" or just aren't "real" people. If the far right has a tendency of viewing race in the context of hierarchies, the far left has an equally disturbing tendency of viewing race as a 'state of mind.'

The far right at least are correctly labeled as racists. Meanwhile, the far left pretend to hold some sort of monopoly on 'anti-racism.'

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

This is very apparent here on VJ.

I agree.

But I have noticed an assumption among a lot of people on the left that " people think this" and the subtle hint that people who aren't in line are "race traitors" or just aren't "real" people. If the far right has a tendency of viewing race in the context of hierarchies, the far left has an equally disturbing tendency of viewing race as a 'state of mind.'

The far right at least are correctly labeled as racists. Meanwhile, the far left pretend to hold some sort of monopoly on 'anti-racism.'

[eieio 1,594]

Poll: Non-whites just as likely as whites to back ‘racist’ voter ID laws

By Kyle Wingfield

August 23, 2016

| Filed in: Elections

DeKalb County voters go to the polls in Scottdale, May 24. (AJC Photo / Hyosub Shin)

With voter ID laws back in the news not too long ago — and an election just a couple of months away — this new poll result is rather interesting, to say the least:

“(N)ew Gallup research shows four in five Americans support both early voting and voter ID laws. A smaller majority of 63 percent support automatic voter registration. …

“Though many of the arguments for early voting and against voter ID laws frequently cite minorities’ voting access, nonwhites’ views of the two policies don’t differ markedly from those of whites. Seventy-seven percent of nonwhites favor both policies, while whites favor each at 81 percent.”

The part about early voting is mildly interesting, but it’s hardly unexpected to see Republicans and Democrats alike support it in large numbers. I’ve long believed early voting is more of a boon to the two major parties — which can get their loyalists to the polls early and then focus more intently on undecided or unlikely voters — than to the public as a whole. Early voting mostly hardens partisan leanings, because it discourages people from waiting until all available information about the candidates is known, thereby tacitly encouraging them to vote for “their side” above all.

But the result that’s far more interesting, because it’s far more surprising, is the one about voter ID laws. I omitted a boilerplate line in the Gallup reportabout voter ID laws reducing minority participation in elections. But if that were really happening — and the evidence in Georgia, where minority turnout has continued to rise since the law was tightened in 2005, suggests it isn’t — wouldn’t non-whites voice greater opposition to these laws in a poll like this one? After all, they are told repeatedly by Democrats that these laws are harmful to them. And yet their support for voter ID laws is statistically tied with that of white respondents to the poll.

The likeliest explanation for this ostensible contradiction is that real people don’t experience the effects of these laws the way politicians claim. To use Georgia as an example again, an ID card is available at no charge to anyone who needs one to vote because they don’t have a drivers license. That’s a small sacrifice to ask in the name of electoral integrity. (The problem recently identified by courts with voter ID laws in Texas and North Carolina was that they were overly, perhaps nefariously, strict regarding the types of IDs that are acceptable.)

Speaking of which, Democrats also often rail against the very idea that voter fraud exists. Gallup’s data do suggest that Republicans are twice as likely as Democrats to believe “votes being cast by people who, by law, are not eligible to vote” — one behavior voter ID laws are intended to address — will be a “major problem” in this year’s election. But curiously, whites and non-whites are equally likely to believe this type of fraud will be a major problem: 37 percent of whites say so, and 35 percent of non-whites say so. This is one case where partisanship and race aren’t closely aligned.

Equally curiously, overall poll respondents deemed voting by non-eligible persons to be just as likely a problem as “eligible voters not being allowed to cast a vote” — which, of course, is what voter ID opponents claim will happen because of the laws. While actual cases of voter fraud are rare, cases of eligible voters not casting ballots because of voter ID laws are as difficult to pin down as the abominable snowman.

Maybe this is the bottom line: Americans are more reasonable about common-sense measures than their elected officials want them to be.

[eieio 1,594]

My main point is those who oppose voter id, are those who want to continue to cheat. It is not coming from minorities. Voter id is not racist, nor is it viewed as racist by minorities.

[JayJayH 546]

My main point is those who oppose voter id, are those who want to continue to cheat. It is not coming from minorities. Voter id is not racist, nor is it viewed as racist by minorities.

Remember that the overall assumption prior to this election was that Latinos would come out en masse to vote down Trump by overwhelming margins.

Then a third of them voted for Trump. Because the preconceived notion that everyone from Puerto Ricans (US citizens by birth) to Cuban-Americans to 4th generation Mexican-Americans are all concerned with immigration policies was just that, a preconceived notion. Then we can argue back and forth whether that notion was prejudiced against Latinos or not.

Edited November 20, 2016 by JayJayH

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I am sure some liberals see it differentlyas do a small number of blacks, but overall this is accurate.

Voter ID laws only make sense. Those who oppose voter ID laws are only those who realize it will make it harder to cheat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs

And that sir is the sum of the truth. The perpetual myth of the hobbled black by the liberalnista of America. This is sure enrage the unwashed hypnotized DDS zombies. Much the effect of holy water on vampires. They can't handle the truth.

[Dakine10 5,452]

Thanks to all who took the time to whitesplain this serious issue.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Thanks to all who took the time to whitesplain this serious issue.

So sorry. I forgot a white person was not capable of understanding Black people are capable of using the Internet and getting to the ID place.

My white shame is overwhelming

[Dakine10 5,452]

So sorry. I forgot a white person was not capable of understanding Black people are capable of using the Internet and getting to the ID place.

My white shame is overwhelming

The topic is not about you understanding black people. The topic is how liberals view black people. You are neither, but I did thank you for your valued input.

Personally, I don't need you or anyone else to tell me how I view anyone. Neither should anyone else, and definitely not from a video by this jackass. I do think a lot of you should spend more time worrying about yourselves though. What liberals think are the least of your problems.

[yuna628 9,680]

Except we've been over voter ID issues before on this forum, and how it doesn't necessarily effect those looking to 'cheat'. It effects the elderly especially, because there is a network of redundant bureaucracy which makes it impossible for many to obtain the correct documentation. And any time you prevent someone from exercising their right to vote, you head down a rather bad slippery slope. Want voter ID to work fairly for all and stop all those supposed 'bad guys' from voting? States need to fix their bureaucratic paperwork issues, nonsense laws, or make a federal ID system (but I seem to remember some people weren't too keen on that either).

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

What liberals think are the least of your problems.

Well know that we have both houses and Trump in the white house I don't think any of us have to worry about what liberals think. You got one right.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

This thread is sure to start a VJ storm when all the lefties get back to work Monday . Does the government get the whole week of Thanksgiving off.