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does anyone know if there is a problem with getting married in the country of the beneficiary before you go for your K-1 visa interview?


January 3, 2015 Met on internet chat/dating site and soon after became a couple.

April 9, 2015 First visit to Medellin.

April 14, 2015 Got engaged the day before David flew back home. Met Nelson's mother and showed her our rings. :wow:

April 17, 2015 Filed I-129F

April 22, 2015 NOA-1 date

May 23, 2015 2nd trip to Medellin - Had lunch with Nelson's family and spent more quality time together.

June 9, 2015 3rd trip to Medellin - Spent more time with Nelson's mother, met Nelson's friends and began making plans for October wedding

June 10, 2015 RFE receipt date

June 15, 2015 Hard copy of RFE received

June 16, 2015 Mailed overnight RFE reply.

June 17, 2015 RFE reply received from USCIS (notified by email).

June 22, 2015 NOA-2 date

June 29, 2015 Received NOA-2 hard copy

July 13, 2015 NVC Case Number Assigned

July 21, 2015 Case "Ready" at Bogota CEAC.

July 31, 2015 Packet 3 Received

Aug 14-21, 2015 4th and final trip to Colombia (at least for a year or so) to be there for interview !!!!

August 19, 2015 Interview, Approved conditionally

October 23, 2015 Stuck in Admin Processing

November 16, 2015 Status changed to READY

November 19, 2015 Status changed to ISSUED :dancing:

November 26, 2015 Arrival in US ........ Truly a THANKSGIVING !!

December 31, 2015 New Year's Eve Wedding (L)(L)(L)(L)

January 11, 2016 Filed AOS I-485 and EAD.

September 19, 2016 Interview for I-485 APPROVED !!!!!!!!

September 23, 2016 Received notice that GREEN CARD WAS MAILED ..... :dancing:

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Well, you will no longer be eligible for a K1 visa as you are already married and will have to start the process for a CR-1 visa all over again.


K1 time line

 


I-129F sent: 12/23/2014
NOA-1: 12/29/2014
NOA-2: 06/05/2015 (158 days)
NOA-2 hardcopy: 06/11/2015 (6 days post NOA-2, 164 days total)
Sent to NVC: 06/16/2015 (11 days post NOA-2, 169 days total)
NVC receive: 06/25/2015 (20 days post NOA-2, 178 days total)
NVC case no: 06/30/2015 (25 days post NOA-2, 183 days total)
NVC left: 07/02/2015 (27 days post NOA-2, 185 days total)
Case Ready: 07/07/2015 (32 days post NOA-2, 190 days total)
submitted DS-160, paid visa fee.: 07/21/2015 (46 days post NOA-2, 204 days total)
Packet 3 sent: 07/25/2015 (50 days post NOA-2, 209 days total)
Pack 4 received: 07/30/2015 (55 days post NOA-2, 214 days total)
Medical: 09/17/2015 Interview: 09/23/2015 (108 days post NOA-2, 268 days total)
Interview Result: Approved Administrative Processing: 09/23/2015
CEAC Status Issued: 09/24/2015
Visa in hand: 09/28/2015
POE: 12/29/2015 Wedding: 01/11/2016


AOS Time Line

 

AOS package mailed: 01/13/2016
AOS package received: 01/20/2016 (day 1)
AOS NOA-1 text/email: 01/23/2016 (day 3), actual NOA-1 date 01/22/2016 (day 2)
AOS Fingerprint fee received: 01/22/2016 (day 2)
AOS check cashed: 01-25-2016 (day 5) Got 6 month NJ driver's license: 01-25-2016
3x NOA-1 hardcopies: 02/03/2016 (day 14)

Biometrics letter: 02/05/2016 (day 16) Biometrics appt (Elizabeth, NJ): 02/17/2016 (day 28)

EAD and AP approved email/txt: 03/29/2016 (day 67)

GC approval email/text: 04/04/2016 (day 74)

I-797 for I-765/I-131 in mail: 04/04/2016 (day 74)

EAD/AP delivered: 04/05/216 (day 75)

GC card being mailed status update: 04/07/16 (day 77)

GC received: 04/11/16 (day 84 post AOS NOA-1)

DONE WITH USCIS FOR 21 MONTHS!

ROC Window opens: 01/04/2018

 

ROC Time Line
ROC package mailed to Vermont 01/04/2018
ROC package received at Vermont 01/08/2018 (day 0)
Check cashed: 01/16/2018 (day 8 )
NOA-1 date: 01/09/2018 (day 1)
NOA-1 received: 01/16/2018 (day 8 )
Biometrics notice received: 02/09/2018 (day 32)
Biometrics appointment: 02/23/2018 (day 46)
Received 18-month extension letter: 08/13/2018 (day 209)

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hi

of course, the purpose of the K1 is to marry in the US

if you get married, the K1 is voided and then you will have to file a spousal visa, the CR1, so all the money and time will be wasted

she must remain unmarried so that your fiancé can come to the US and marry you within 90 days,

if you want to throw away your K1 petition, marry and start over with an 130 for CR1, it could take over a year

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Don't do it. You will have to start over with CR-1 visa. Just finish the K-1 process.


October 2011 - Met Online :D
November 2011 - First trip to Dominican Republic :dancing:

Jan 25 2014 - Married in Dominican Republic

May 14, 2014 - I-130 sent Phoenix Lockbox

May 16, 2014 - PD from USCIS Website

May 21, 2014 - NOA-1 hard copy received, Nebraska Service Center

Oct 17, 2014 - RFE notification by txt.

Oct 25, 2014 - RFE hard copy received

Oct 27, 2014 - RFE response sent

Oct 28, 2014 - RFE response received and signed for NSC

Nov 04, 2014 - NOA 2 received by txt message

Nov 21, 2014 - NVC received

Apr 06, 2015 - Checklist received from NVC by email

Apr 07, 2015 - Checklist response sent to NVC

Apr 08, 2015 - Checklist response received and scanned at NVC

May 01, 2015 - Case Complete :dancing:

May 13, 2015 - Received interview letter

June 10, 2015 - CR-1 Approved :dance: :dance: :dance:

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Wow. Thanks so much for the advice. Somehow I thought that because we would be getting married in a foreign country and not the US, it would not affect the K-1. But I guess I was wrong. Thanks again.


January 3, 2015 Met on internet chat/dating site and soon after became a couple.

April 9, 2015 First visit to Medellin.

April 14, 2015 Got engaged the day before David flew back home. Met Nelson's mother and showed her our rings. :wow:

April 17, 2015 Filed I-129F

April 22, 2015 NOA-1 date

May 23, 2015 2nd trip to Medellin - Had lunch with Nelson's family and spent more quality time together.

June 9, 2015 3rd trip to Medellin - Spent more time with Nelson's mother, met Nelson's friends and began making plans for October wedding

June 10, 2015 RFE receipt date

June 15, 2015 Hard copy of RFE received

June 16, 2015 Mailed overnight RFE reply.

June 17, 2015 RFE reply received from USCIS (notified by email).

June 22, 2015 NOA-2 date

June 29, 2015 Received NOA-2 hard copy

July 13, 2015 NVC Case Number Assigned

July 21, 2015 Case "Ready" at Bogota CEAC.

July 31, 2015 Packet 3 Received

Aug 14-21, 2015 4th and final trip to Colombia (at least for a year or so) to be there for interview !!!!

August 19, 2015 Interview, Approved conditionally

October 23, 2015 Stuck in Admin Processing

November 16, 2015 Status changed to READY

November 19, 2015 Status changed to ISSUED :dancing:

November 26, 2015 Arrival in US ........ Truly a THANKSGIVING !!

December 31, 2015 New Year's Eve Wedding (L)(L)(L)(L)

January 11, 2016 Filed AOS I-485 and EAD.

September 19, 2016 Interview for I-485 APPROVED !!!!!!!!

September 23, 2016 Received notice that GREEN CARD WAS MAILED ..... :dancing:

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Wow. Thanks so much for the advice. Somehow I thought that because we would be getting married in a foreign country and not the US, it would not affect the K-1. But I guess I was wrong. Thanks again.

How would it not. If the K-1 is to get married in the states than of course it would affect as you could no longer get married there. Married is married no matter the country...good thing you asked, that would have been brutal.

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I am really confused now. You know I am talking about marrying my fiance, not someone else,right? I guess I thought that legally married in one country did not mean you were legally married in another country. so I guess I was thinking that if we got married in Columbia, the country of my fiance, then if anything that would prove at the K-1 interview how serious we were about being married in the United States because we already took the step and got married in Columbia. Does anyone fall my logic?

but if being married in one country means you are legally married every place else in the world including the United States then I follow what you guys are saying.


January 3, 2015 Met on internet chat/dating site and soon after became a couple.

April 9, 2015 First visit to Medellin.

April 14, 2015 Got engaged the day before David flew back home. Met Nelson's mother and showed her our rings. :wow:

April 17, 2015 Filed I-129F

April 22, 2015 NOA-1 date

May 23, 2015 2nd trip to Medellin - Had lunch with Nelson's family and spent more quality time together.

June 9, 2015 3rd trip to Medellin - Spent more time with Nelson's mother, met Nelson's friends and began making plans for October wedding

June 10, 2015 RFE receipt date

June 15, 2015 Hard copy of RFE received

June 16, 2015 Mailed overnight RFE reply.

June 17, 2015 RFE reply received from USCIS (notified by email).

June 22, 2015 NOA-2 date

June 29, 2015 Received NOA-2 hard copy

July 13, 2015 NVC Case Number Assigned

July 21, 2015 Case "Ready" at Bogota CEAC.

July 31, 2015 Packet 3 Received

Aug 14-21, 2015 4th and final trip to Colombia (at least for a year or so) to be there for interview !!!!

August 19, 2015 Interview, Approved conditionally

October 23, 2015 Stuck in Admin Processing

November 16, 2015 Status changed to READY

November 19, 2015 Status changed to ISSUED :dancing:

November 26, 2015 Arrival in US ........ Truly a THANKSGIVING !!

December 31, 2015 New Year's Eve Wedding (L)(L)(L)(L)

January 11, 2016 Filed AOS I-485 and EAD.

September 19, 2016 Interview for I-485 APPROVED !!!!!!!!

September 23, 2016 Received notice that GREEN CARD WAS MAILED ..... :dancing:

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ok. So I just googled it and I don't know why I thought that if you were legally married in one country it did not mean you are legally married in another country. I was totally wrong on that assumption.

I'm pretty new to all this immigration stuff and marriage. Thanks again for all the replies.


January 3, 2015 Met on internet chat/dating site and soon after became a couple.

April 9, 2015 First visit to Medellin.

April 14, 2015 Got engaged the day before David flew back home. Met Nelson's mother and showed her our rings. :wow:

April 17, 2015 Filed I-129F

April 22, 2015 NOA-1 date

May 23, 2015 2nd trip to Medellin - Had lunch with Nelson's family and spent more quality time together.

June 9, 2015 3rd trip to Medellin - Spent more time with Nelson's mother, met Nelson's friends and began making plans for October wedding

June 10, 2015 RFE receipt date

June 15, 2015 Hard copy of RFE received

June 16, 2015 Mailed overnight RFE reply.

June 17, 2015 RFE reply received from USCIS (notified by email).

June 22, 2015 NOA-2 date

June 29, 2015 Received NOA-2 hard copy

July 13, 2015 NVC Case Number Assigned

July 21, 2015 Case "Ready" at Bogota CEAC.

July 31, 2015 Packet 3 Received

Aug 14-21, 2015 4th and final trip to Colombia (at least for a year or so) to be there for interview !!!!

August 19, 2015 Interview, Approved conditionally

October 23, 2015 Stuck in Admin Processing

November 16, 2015 Status changed to READY

November 19, 2015 Status changed to ISSUED :dancing:

November 26, 2015 Arrival in US ........ Truly a THANKSGIVING !!

December 31, 2015 New Year's Eve Wedding (L)(L)(L)(L)

January 11, 2016 Filed AOS I-485 and EAD.

September 19, 2016 Interview for I-485 APPROVED !!!!!!!!

September 23, 2016 Received notice that GREEN CARD WAS MAILED ..... :dancing:

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Got it! so glad I checked with you guys. we will have to forego the Columbian reception.


January 3, 2015 Met on internet chat/dating site and soon after became a couple.

April 9, 2015 First visit to Medellin.

April 14, 2015 Got engaged the day before David flew back home. Met Nelson's mother and showed her our rings. :wow:

April 17, 2015 Filed I-129F

April 22, 2015 NOA-1 date

May 23, 2015 2nd trip to Medellin - Had lunch with Nelson's family and spent more quality time together.

June 9, 2015 3rd trip to Medellin - Spent more time with Nelson's mother, met Nelson's friends and began making plans for October wedding

June 10, 2015 RFE receipt date

June 15, 2015 Hard copy of RFE received

June 16, 2015 Mailed overnight RFE reply.

June 17, 2015 RFE reply received from USCIS (notified by email).

June 22, 2015 NOA-2 date

June 29, 2015 Received NOA-2 hard copy

July 13, 2015 NVC Case Number Assigned

July 21, 2015 Case "Ready" at Bogota CEAC.

July 31, 2015 Packet 3 Received

Aug 14-21, 2015 4th and final trip to Colombia (at least for a year or so) to be there for interview !!!!

August 19, 2015 Interview, Approved conditionally

October 23, 2015 Stuck in Admin Processing

November 16, 2015 Status changed to READY

November 19, 2015 Status changed to ISSUED :dancing:

November 26, 2015 Arrival in US ........ Truly a THANKSGIVING !!

December 31, 2015 New Year's Eve Wedding (L)(L)(L)(L)

January 11, 2016 Filed AOS I-485 and EAD.

September 19, 2016 Interview for I-485 APPROVED !!!!!!!!

September 23, 2016 Received notice that GREEN CARD WAS MAILED ..... :dancing:

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hi

if you are going to do it before you leave, have the reception not look like a wedding reception, but just a get together or just a regular party, they just might think you got married

anything that just looks like a wedding can be confused and be denied the K1

or once you marry and you start the adjustment of status process, and once she has the advance parole or travel permit, you can come back to Colombia and have a wedding reception

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A K-1 visa is for an unmarried fiance(e) of a USC. If you get married before interviewing for the K-1 visa, then you might as well not even go to the interview because you will be ineligible to receive a K-1.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87391.pdf
9 FAM 41.81 N6.6 Petitioner and Beneficiary Must be Legally Free to Marry
(CT:VISA-1547; 09-27-2010)

a. For a K-1 petition to remain valid, the petitioner and the beneficiary must:

(1) Have been legally free to marry at the time the petition was filed;

(2) Have remained so thereafter
; and

(3) Continue to have the intent to marry within 90 days after the beneficiary’s admission into the United States.

b. A K-1 petition filed when the petitioner and/or the applicant was still legally married shall not serve as the basis for visa issuance, even though that marriage was terminated and applicant/petitioner became free to marry within 90 days of arrival in the United States. If a consular officer finds that the petitioner and/or applicant is/was not legally free to marry, post must return the K-1 petition to NVC under cover of memorandum detailing the specific, objective facts giving rise to the officer’s determination.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86920.pdf

9 FAM 40.1 N1 VALIDITY OF “MARRIAGE” FOR IMMIGRATION PURPOSE

9 FAM 40.1 N1.1 Marriage and Spouse Defined
(CT:VISA-2079; 04-09-2014)

a. The term “marriage” is not specifically defined in the INA; however, the meaning of marriage can be inferred from the INA 101(a)(35) (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(35)) which defines the term “spouse.” A marriage, in order to be valid for immigration purposes, must be celebrated in the presence of both parties.

b. The underlying principle in determining the validity of the marriage is that the law of the place of marriage celebration controls (except as noted in paragraph c of this section). If the law is complied with and the marriage is recognized, then the marriage is deemed to be valid for immigration purposes. Any prior marriage, of either party, must be legally terminated.

c. Marriages, considered to be void under State law as contrary to public policy, such as polygamous or incestuous marriages, or which Federal law determines does not meet the Federal definition of a marriage, cannot be recognized for immigration purposes even if the marriage is legal in the place of marriage celebration.

d. A marriage void under state law, such as an underage or incestuous marriage, may nevertheless be recognized as valid by the state of intended immigration. The legal thresholds varies state by state. For example, first cousins may not marry in Michigan and such marriages in Michigan are considered void from their inception. M.C.L.A. 551.3 (2010). A 1973 ruling of the Michigan Supreme Court, however, found a marriage between first-degree cousins married in Hungary was nevertheless valid. Toth v. Toth, 50 Mich. App 150, 212 N.W.2d 812 (1973). The same principal applies in marriages of minors. In any cases where a Consular Officer determines suspects that a marriage may not be valid for immigration purposes, the officer should first contact the Office of Legislation, Regulations and Advisory Opinions Division (CA/VO/L/A) for an advisory opinion (AO).

http://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume12-PartG-Chapter2.html

1. Validity of Marriages in the United States​ or Abroad​

Validity of Marriage ​for Immigration Purposes​

The applicant must establish validity of his or her marriage. ​In general,​ the legal validity of a marriage is determined by the law of the place where the marriage was celebrated​ (“place-of-celebration rule”)​. ​Under this rule, a​ marriage is valid for immigration purposes in cases where​ t​he marriage is valid under the law of the jurisdiction in which it is performed​.​


Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > http://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ%20-%20Ciudad%20Juarez.pdf

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hi

if you are going to do it before you leave, have the reception not look like a wedding reception, but just a get together or just a regular party, they just might think you got married

anything that just looks like a wedding can be confused and be denied the K1

or once you marry and you start the adjustment of status process, and once she has the advance parole or travel permit, you can come back to Colombia and have a wedding reception

Thanks. I like the idea of just waiting until the adjustment of status goes through and we can go back to Colombia for a visit.


January 3, 2015 Met on internet chat/dating site and soon after became a couple.

April 9, 2015 First visit to Medellin.

April 14, 2015 Got engaged the day before David flew back home. Met Nelson's mother and showed her our rings. :wow:

April 17, 2015 Filed I-129F

April 22, 2015 NOA-1 date

May 23, 2015 2nd trip to Medellin - Had lunch with Nelson's family and spent more quality time together.

June 9, 2015 3rd trip to Medellin - Spent more time with Nelson's mother, met Nelson's friends and began making plans for October wedding

June 10, 2015 RFE receipt date

June 15, 2015 Hard copy of RFE received

June 16, 2015 Mailed overnight RFE reply.

June 17, 2015 RFE reply received from USCIS (notified by email).

June 22, 2015 NOA-2 date

June 29, 2015 Received NOA-2 hard copy

July 13, 2015 NVC Case Number Assigned

July 21, 2015 Case "Ready" at Bogota CEAC.

July 31, 2015 Packet 3 Received

Aug 14-21, 2015 4th and final trip to Colombia (at least for a year or so) to be there for interview !!!!

August 19, 2015 Interview, Approved conditionally

October 23, 2015 Stuck in Admin Processing

November 16, 2015 Status changed to READY

November 19, 2015 Status changed to ISSUED :dancing:

November 26, 2015 Arrival in US ........ Truly a THANKSGIVING !!

December 31, 2015 New Year's Eve Wedding (L)(L)(L)(L)

January 11, 2016 Filed AOS I-485 and EAD.

September 19, 2016 Interview for I-485 APPROVED !!!!!!!!

September 23, 2016 Received notice that GREEN CARD WAS MAILED ..... :dancing:

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A K-1 visa is for an unmarried fiance(e) of a USC. If you get married before interviewing for the K-1 visa, then you might as well not even go to the interview because you will be ineligible to receive a K-1.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87391.pdf

9 FAM 41.81 N6.6 Petitioner and Beneficiary Must be Legally Free to Marry

(CT:VISA-1547; 09-27-2010)

a. For a K-1 petition to remain valid, the petitioner and the beneficiary must:

(1) Have been legally free to marry at the time the petition was filed;

(2) Have remained so thereafter; and

(3) Continue to have the intent to marry within 90 days after the beneficiarys admission into the United States.

b. A K-1 petition filed when the petitioner and/or the applicant was still legally married shall not serve as the basis for visa issuance, even though that marriage was terminated and applicant/petitioner became free to marry within 90 days of arrival in the United States. If a consular officer finds that the petitioner and/or applicant is/was not legally free to marry, post must return the K-1 petition to NVC under cover of memorandum detailing the specific, objective facts giving rise to the officers determination.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86920.pdf

9 FAM 40.1 N1 VALIDITY OF MARRIAGE FOR IMMIGRATION PURPOSE

9 FAM 40.1 N1.1 Marriage and Spouse Defined

(CT:VISA-2079; 04-09-2014)

a. The term marriage is not specifically defined in the INA; however, the meaning of marriage can be inferred from the INA 101(a)(35) (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(35)) which defines the term spouse. A marriage, in order to be valid for immigration purposes, must be celebrated in the presence of both parties.

b. The underlying principle in determining the validity of the marriage is that the law of the place of marriage celebration controls (except as noted in paragraph c of this section). If the law is complied with and the marriage is recognized, then the marriage is deemed to be valid for immigration purposes. Any prior marriage, of either party, must be legally terminated.

c. Marriages, considered to be void under State law as contrary to public policy, such as polygamous or incestuous marriages, or which Federal law determines does not meet the Federal definition of a marriage, cannot be recognized for immigration purposes even if the marriage is legal in the place of marriage celebration.

d. A marriage void under state law, such as an underage or incestuous marriage, may nevertheless be recognized as valid by the state of intended immigration. The legal thresholds varies state by state. For example, first cousins may not marry in Michigan and such marriages in Michigan are considered void from their inception. M.C.L.A. 551.3 (2010). A 1973 ruling of the Michigan Supreme Court, however, found a marriage between first-degree cousins married in Hungary was nevertheless valid. Toth v. Toth, 50 Mich. App 150, 212 N.W.2d 812 (1973). The same principal applies in marriages of minors. In any cases where a Consular Officer determines suspects that a marriage may not be valid for immigration purposes, the officer should first contact the Office of Legislation, Regulations and Advisory Opinions Division (CA/VO/L/A) for an advisory opinion (AO).

http://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume12-PartG-Chapter2.html

1. Validity of Marriages in the United States​ or Abroad​

Validity of Marriage ​for Immigration Purposes​

The applicant must establish validity of his or her marriage. ​In general,​ the legal validity of a marriage is determined by the law of the place where the marriage was celebrated​ (place-of-celebration rule)​. ​Under this rule, a​ marriage is valid for immigration purposes in cases where​ t​he marriage is valid under the law of the jurisdiction in which it is performed​.​

I love this website. I learn so much. I am sure that most of that wording about being "legally free to marry" is referring to not being still married to someone else...... but I get it. We'll do a nice celebration upon our first trip back to Colombia. Thanks for all that information.


January 3, 2015 Met on internet chat/dating site and soon after became a couple.

April 9, 2015 First visit to Medellin.

April 14, 2015 Got engaged the day before David flew back home. Met Nelson's mother and showed her our rings. :wow:

April 17, 2015 Filed I-129F

April 22, 2015 NOA-1 date

May 23, 2015 2nd trip to Medellin - Had lunch with Nelson's family and spent more quality time together.

June 9, 2015 3rd trip to Medellin - Spent more time with Nelson's mother, met Nelson's friends and began making plans for October wedding

June 10, 2015 RFE receipt date

June 15, 2015 Hard copy of RFE received

June 16, 2015 Mailed overnight RFE reply.

June 17, 2015 RFE reply received from USCIS (notified by email).

June 22, 2015 NOA-2 date

June 29, 2015 Received NOA-2 hard copy

July 13, 2015 NVC Case Number Assigned

July 21, 2015 Case "Ready" at Bogota CEAC.

July 31, 2015 Packet 3 Received

Aug 14-21, 2015 4th and final trip to Colombia (at least for a year or so) to be there for interview !!!!

August 19, 2015 Interview, Approved conditionally

October 23, 2015 Stuck in Admin Processing

November 16, 2015 Status changed to READY

November 19, 2015 Status changed to ISSUED :dancing:

November 26, 2015 Arrival in US ........ Truly a THANKSGIVING !!

December 31, 2015 New Year's Eve Wedding (L)(L)(L)(L)

January 11, 2016 Filed AOS I-485 and EAD.

September 19, 2016 Interview for I-485 APPROVED !!!!!!!!

September 23, 2016 Received notice that GREEN CARD WAS MAILED ..... :dancing:

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Be handy if you did not need to divorce, just move countries.

Would also make everybody holidaying abroad single....


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