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Hello Visa Journey!

It's been quite a while since I last posted, but I am just beginning to compile my evidence list.

While I have joint car title, lease, tax transcripts, his name under my auto insurance, etc (I'm afraid we are still setting up financially, so don't have the money for a lawyer and a will as is often suggested), I am running into a problem with the bills.

Most are under either of our names but not both. This is making me not want to submit them as I don't want USCIS to think that it is inadequate proof of co-mingling of funds.

I tried to contact my internet provider, energy, and car insurance to get both our names added to the bill statements.

  • Internet (in his name) and Energy (in my name) said that they could only have one user on bills as they only input one social security number on the account. There is nothing I can do to add a second bill payer on the statements.
    [Note 1: I can add a user so it shows our user names on the webpage, but I am not sure how useful this is as there are edit buttons with 'add new user' on the page]
    [Note 2: I also asked if they could provide any documents that list him on the account and they said they couldn't send anything]
  • Similarly, with the auto insurance, I was told it was my membership and while I can have someone under my policy, I cannot have anyone under my bills.

I want to do what I can so that we are hopefully approved at round one. The joint bank statements and tax returns show shared financial responsibility, but I'm concerned that this will not be enough. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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I also have only one name on most of our bills. So I included all of them to show we're both in the same place paying for bills at the same house.


USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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Nothing to worry about - you're perfectly fine with those types of bills - one in your name, the other in yours.

If you have medical insurance, you can provide EOBs that indicate who's the patient and who's the policy owner.


Removal of Conditions Journey

3/3/2009 - Removal of conditions - sent off packet to CSC

3/5/2009 - I-751 received in CSC

3/9/2009 - Check cashed

3/20/2009 - Biometrics notice received (no NOA1)

4/2/2009 - Biometrics

4/9/2009 - NOA1 date (first undelivered one is 3/5)

4/3/2009 - Touch?

5/6/2009 - ROC Approval - 65 days

6/22/2009 - CRIS Card production ordered email

7/7/2009 - GC arrived!

Naturalization Journey

3/03/2010 N400 sent to Arizona Lockbox

3/15/2010 Check cashed

3/17/2010 NOA1

3/18/2010 - Biometrics notice sent

3/26/2010 Early biometrics done at an ASC different from the one assigned to (Original BIO date was 4/15)

4/30/2010 Yellow letter received and info from USCIS mil line they are working on my interview letter (6/17 appt)

5/1/2010 Text and email interview letter sen

5/6/2010 Interview letter received - scheduled for 6/17/2010 at 10:05am

6/17/2010 Interview appointment - PASSED

6/29/2010 US Citizen

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The bills show either joint residence or joint liability, not the comingling of funds.

Some of my bills had both of our names, some didn't. I submitted all and highlighted their payments in our joint banking account. So no matter whose names they were in, they were paid from a single account.

Do you have joint credit cards? Gym memberships? Etc. No single piece of evidence is needed but in aggregate they help boost your case. Good luck!

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AOS

03/24/11 - Got married in the Boogie-Down Bronx, NYC!
04/21/11 - Mailed I-130,I-765, I-485, I-864 and I-693 - Day 00

04/23/11 - Application delivered - Day 02
04/28/11 - NOA (most forms) - Day 07
05/03/11 - Checks cashed - Day 12
05/31/11 - Biometrics completed in the Bronx, NYC - Day 40
06/24/11 - Received someone else's employment authorization card!!! What the...? - Day 64
07/01/11 - Mailed the poor lady's card back after calling USCIS - Day 71
07/07/11 - Received poor lady's interview notice! What??? - Day 77
07/15/11 - Received my own EAD card - Day 85
08/12/11 - Interview. Approved on the spot! - Day 113
08/18/11 - Received card in the mail - Day 119

ROC
05/28/13 - Mailed I-751 - Day 00

05/30/13 - Application delivered - Day 02

05/31/13 - NOA I-797 - Day 03
06/04/13 - Check cashed - Day 07

06/06/13 - NOA delivered to my home/Biometrics letter generated - Day 09

06/10/13 - Received Biometrics letter in the mail - Day 13

06/27/13 - Biometrics completed in Milwaukee, WI - Day 30

09/10/13 - Application approved! - Day 105

09/14/13 - 10 year Green Card received! - Day 109

Citizenship

05/10/16 - Mailed N-400 - Day 00

05/12/16 - Application delivered - Day 02

05/13/16 - Credit card payment accepted - Day 03

05/17/16 - Received text & email update - Day 07

05/20/16 - Received 1st NOA (dated 05/13/16) & created ELIS acct - Day 10

05/21/16 - Received 2nd NOA (dated 05/16/16) confirming my DOB and address - Day 11

05/22/06 - Biometrics scheduled (online update) and appt letter was mailed on 05/20/16 - Day 12

05/24/06 - Biometrics letter became viewable online (appt scheduled for 06/07/16) - Day 14

05/27/16 - Received Biometrics letter in mail - Day 17

05/31/16 - Was denied walk-in fingerprints with just 1 person left in line. Milwaukee office, boo! - Day 21

06/07/16 - Biometrics completed in Milwaukee, WI - Day 28

12/21/16 - Passed Citizenship test/Interview was successful! - Day 197

01/26/17 - I am a US citizen!!! - Day 233

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I had all the bills in my name and so sent none of them. Also had no wills yet. Still approved based on other evidence. There are MANY suggestions, but you aren't going to have all of them.


England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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We only had 2 months of bills when we applied for ROC and we got approved without RFE


Adjusting from B1/B2
Day 1 01/22/2013 AOS package sent
Day 67 03/29/ 2013 Greencard Arrived .


Eligible for ROC December 21st 2014

Day 001 12/22/2014 ROC package sent to CSC

Day 154 05/24/2015 Greencard arrived with SOMEONE ELSE'S PICTURE AND SIGNATURE

Day 409 02/04/2016 New card production

Eligible for citizenship January 5th 2016- 3 year rule

Day 1 01/04/2016 N-400 Mailed to Phoenix

Day 9 01/13/2016 check cashed/ case accepted

Day22 01/25/2016 Biometric letter for 02/03 ( early bio 01/28)

Day 196 Interview Letter received 07/18/2016

Day 224 Interview 08/15/2016 + same day oath+ same day passport application.

I AM A US CITIZEN!

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Do a Google search for "Texas will template." You'll find some low-cost options, and you might even stumble upon an actual template into which you could plug your own information. I am not a lawyer and am not recommending one path or another.


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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The bills show either joint residence or joint liability, not the comingling of funds.

Some of my bills had both of our names, some didn't. I submitted all and highlighted their payments in our joint banking account. So no matter whose names they were in, they were paid from a single account.

Do you have joint credit cards? Gym memberships? Etc. No single piece of evidence is needed but in aggregate they help boost your case. Good luck!

I hadn't thought of highlighting the payments (I was considering highlighting both our names on every document, but not sure if that is overkill), but that is quite a good idea and it navigates the 'bills in only one name' issue nicely. Thank you!

We have 2 joint credit cards that we've had since March (we thought we could rely on debit forever until we began thinking about the credit history needed in buying a house :blush: ).

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I had all the bills in my name and so sent none of them. Also had no wills yet. Still approved based on other evidence. There are MANY suggestions, but you aren't going to have all of them.

This is a good point and it is reassuring to know that if you lack one strain of evidence, other types will make up for it. I will have to begin the great sifting-through of all the paper we have accumulated. Thank you!

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copies of drivers licenses showing the same address, life insurance policies showing the other as beneficiary, if you are renting and you are the only one on the lease get a written, signed statement from the landlord stating you are both residing at said address, if you have traveled together internationally you can send copies of passport stamps from both of you, joint homeowners/rental insurance policy. I am trying to think of what else we sent that hasn't been mentioned, we bought a house together so we had a lot of evidence as far as that goes. I sent 2 affidavits for the heck of it even though we sent a lot of evidence, as far as I was concerned I would rather send more in terms of evidence rather than take the chance of an RFE. If I think of anything else I'll come back.

My husband's removal of conditions was approved with no RFE and no interview. We didn't use an attorney at any point during the entire process from the filing of the petition and up to and including removal of conditions. We never received any RFEs and the process has been basically painless for us, even with some major red flags. Next month hubby will apply for citizenship. Good luck!

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do a quick claim deed to add to your house deed, some utiitiy providers will not let you add him unless he is in US but my water company did. Hope when you did your taxes you applied for ITIN and added him to tax returns/can only apply for that at tax time

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The bills show either joint residence or joint liability, not the comingling of funds.

Some of my bills had both of our names, some didn't. I submitted all and highlighted their payments in our joint banking account. So no matter whose names they were in, they were paid from a single account.

Do you have joint credit cards? Gym memberships? Etc. No single piece of evidence is needed but in aggregate they help boost your case. Good luck!

Hi,

this is a silly question but, did you actually used a highlighter in the copies that you sent to show them this? I have a bunch of similar documents and I would like to highlight them to point out the common address, expenses or even each others names as an emergency contact.


Our K-1 journey * I am the beneficiary *

08/03/2012 sent I-129F

06/27/2013 Interview at Frankfurt Consulate = Approved.

08/09/2013 Wedding!

AOS

09/03/2013 Sent AOS + EAD + AP

12/30/2013 PR card in hand.

ROC

09/29/2015 Sent I-751

10/30/15 Biometrics

05/19/16 Approved

N-400

10/04/2016 Send Package

10/15/2016 NOA

11/04/2016 Biometrics

02/01/2017 Interview

02/23/2017 Oath!

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Not silly at all. I highlighted payments that were made via our joint account for bills that came in just one name. For example our cable bill was in my name only and the water bill was in his only. Some companies just don't have multiple names on bills so we showed that they were paid from the same account just to emphasize joint liability. Generally though they don't want you color coding your application since it is seen as a nuisance because they have their own system. Good luck! ?


 

 

AOS

03/24/11 - Got married in the Boogie-Down Bronx, NYC!
04/21/11 - Mailed I-130,I-765, I-485, I-864 and I-693 - Day 00

04/23/11 - Application delivered - Day 02
04/28/11 - NOA (most forms) - Day 07
05/03/11 - Checks cashed - Day 12
05/31/11 - Biometrics completed in the Bronx, NYC - Day 40
06/24/11 - Received someone else's employment authorization card!!! What the...? - Day 64
07/01/11 - Mailed the poor lady's card back after calling USCIS - Day 71
07/07/11 - Received poor lady's interview notice! What??? - Day 77
07/15/11 - Received my own EAD card - Day 85
08/12/11 - Interview. Approved on the spot! - Day 113
08/18/11 - Received card in the mail - Day 119

ROC
05/28/13 - Mailed I-751 - Day 00

05/30/13 - Application delivered - Day 02

05/31/13 - NOA I-797 - Day 03
06/04/13 - Check cashed - Day 07

06/06/13 - NOA delivered to my home/Biometrics letter generated - Day 09

06/10/13 - Received Biometrics letter in the mail - Day 13

06/27/13 - Biometrics completed in Milwaukee, WI - Day 30

09/10/13 - Application approved! - Day 105

09/14/13 - 10 year Green Card received! - Day 109

Citizenship

05/10/16 - Mailed N-400 - Day 00

05/12/16 - Application delivered - Day 02

05/13/16 - Credit card payment accepted - Day 03

05/17/16 - Received text & email update - Day 07

05/20/16 - Received 1st NOA (dated 05/13/16) & created ELIS acct - Day 10

05/21/16 - Received 2nd NOA (dated 05/16/16) confirming my DOB and address - Day 11

05/22/06 - Biometrics scheduled (online update) and appt letter was mailed on 05/20/16 - Day 12

05/24/06 - Biometrics letter became viewable online (appt scheduled for 06/07/16) - Day 14

05/27/16 - Received Biometrics letter in mail - Day 17

05/31/16 - Was denied walk-in fingerprints with just 1 person left in line. Milwaukee office, boo! - Day 21

06/07/16 - Biometrics completed in Milwaukee, WI - Day 28

12/21/16 - Passed Citizenship test/Interview was successful! - Day 197

01/26/17 - I am a US citizen!!! - Day 233

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Hi,

this is a silly question but, did you actually used a highlighter in the copies that you sent to show them this? I have a bunch of similar documents and I would like to highlight them to point out the common address, expenses or even each others names as an emergency contact.

I lightly highlighted everything I wanted them to notice in my evidence so they could quickly see the point I was making. Furthermore I noted what it was at the bottom of the page with red Sharpie. Example--

Two boarding passes photocopied on same page.

Highlight: date, His name, seat 6A

Highlight: date, Her name, seat 6B

Note in red at bottom: Trip to Alaska June 2012

Next page same thing but "Trip to England April 2014"

They could quickly see we took trips together and sat beside each other.


England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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