Visa Fraud

[calibob 73]

I'm ashamed to say but me thinks me been had. I should have known from the get go but love is blind. I met my ex online and we started talking. A year later we went through the 130 process and at the interview she was interrigated by the embassey staff for previously falsifying a tourist visa and it required a 601 waiver to get her here. She was ok till she told me she had gone to New Zealand and was looking for a man to marry so she could stay there on a previous trip.

Then she started getting moody, demanding a separation 2 times for me not being " romantic enough", and she progressively became more demanding. Actually downright cruel towards the end mentally and emotionally. She often times said that we should divorce, me marry her relatives just to come over here. Secondly she said that the niece we were trying to adopt was using me only for immigration benefits. Then she confidently talked with her friends out loud , in English, about how filipinas use Americans just to gain benefits. She also said that we should divorce and live together so she could get public assistance like her friends do. When questioned, she said she was only kidding. I suspect she was feeling me out.

Near the end she would do things that would provoke me to anger. I am in great physical pain and she would demand that we do this and do that, running everywhere and that she was "lost". She's been here 2 years and was wearing me down badly physically and mentally. What should I do?

We're divorcing now and I've refused to sign her i751 on these grounds. She tried baiting me by saying "you want to kill me don't you!" during a phone conversation recently.

Serious advice only, no jokers please!!

[Merrytooth 5,748]

See this thread.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/439326-reporting-fraud-to-uscis/

I think you better start protecting yourself asap, stay away from her, in case she is setting you up for domestic violence.

[Darnell 8,478]

the I-751 not require your signature, there's a tickbox for 'divorced'.

Note this form changed, her coach probably not aware of it.

She can file on her own, but still must prove up the bonafides of a marriage done in good faith through physical paper evidence. She not have that? it's on her, not you, to handle it.

If you want to have some sideways input into her ROC casefile, use advanced search tool !!!

search terms = FDNS

member name = 'Darnell'

then click on 'display as posts'.

[Sandra G. 5,023]

Divorce and move on.She showed you who she was before getting married.She can file form I-751 waiver without your help.

[calibob 73]

Problem is I'll be stuck paying for her "life of riley" living on the government dole for 10 years......not very promising for someone taken by a fraudster.

Should I file fraud claims to block her from abusing the system?

[MaleAlpha 314]

Smh..she's even bragging about it. From posts I've read it seems as though it is a very common fraud tactic amongst many people from the Philippines/Vietnam/China. Especially the part where they ask you to divorce them and marry a relative of them to come over also..or they threaten to divorce you if you don't file for a relative of there's to come over. Sorry about that mate..but I think you should start gathering evidence..I would personally use hidden cams listening devices around the house and do as much as I can to gather evidence of her implying she wants to commit visa fraud and afterwards give it to immigration after we divorce so they can haul her behind back home.

[Darnell 8,478]

Problem is I'll be stuck paying for her "life of riley" living on the government dole for 10 years......not very promising for someone taken by a fraudster.

Should I file fraud claims to block her from abusing the system?

you can certainly try. read the stuff that I wrote, I've outlined the 'how'.

[balotski 0]

I'm ashamed to say but me thinks me been had. I should have known from the get go but love is blind. I met my ex online and we started talking. A year later we went through the 130 process and at the interview she was interrigated by the embassey staff for previously falsifying a tourist visa and it required a 601 waiver to get her here. She was ok till she told me she had gone to New Zealand and was looking for a man to marry so she could stay there on a previous trip.

Then she started getting moody, demanding a separation 2 times for me not being " romantic enough", and she progressively became more demanding. Actually downright cruel towards the end mentally and emotionally. She often times said that we should divorce, me marry her relatives just to come over here. Secondly she said that the niece we were trying to adopt was using me only for immigration benefits. Then she confidently talked with her friends out loud , in English, about how filipinas use Americans just to gain benefits. She also said that we should divorce and live together so she could get public assistance like her friends do. When questioned, she said she was only kidding. I suspect she was feeling me out.

Near the end she would do things that would provoke me to anger. I am in great physical pain and she would demand that we do this and do that, running everywhere and that she was "lost". She's been here 2 years and was wearing me down badly physically and mentally. What should I do?

We're divorcing now and I've refused to sign her i751 on these grounds. She tried baiting me by saying "you want to kill me don't you!" during a phone conversation recently.

Serious advice only, no jokers please!!

Smh..she's even bragging about it. From posts I've read it seems as though it is a very common fraud tactic amongst many people from the Philippines/Vietnam/China. Especially the part where they ask you to divorce them and marry a relative of them to come over also..or they threaten to divorce you if you don't file for a relative of there's to come over. Sorry about that mate..but I think you should start gathering evidence..I would personally use hidden cams listening devices around the house and do as much as I can to gather evidence of her implying she wants to commit visa fraud and afterwards give it to immigration after we divorce so they can haul her behind back home.

I'm sorry to hear that calibob. It is very sad to hear that there are people who hurt and take advantage of other people specially when knowing that some are from my home country. Maybe she's just undergoing some problems herself or she's confused but anyway I do hope and pray that this doesn't make it seem that all Filipinas are like that and I do hope and pray also that everything works well for you in the end. Stay strong! ☺️

Ps: i'm pretty sure there's an answer for your case. ROC is implemeted for that reason. For me, it's like another stage, like a test of time to bona fide your marriage after you get the first series of paperwork done and approved. If ever there's any visa fraud intentions and your spouse got away with it the first time, with ROC, you can still do something. Her asking for a divorce and separation are strong grounds for you not to sign her ROC.

[Ontarkie 13,968]

~~Moved to Effects of Major Family Changes on Immigration Benefits, from Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussion~~

[calibob 73]

you can certainly try. read the stuff that I wrote, I've outlined the 'how'.

Darnell, could you provide a link to this "How"? Since all this started my mind is swiss cheese.

[Me_Theo 25]

Divorce her , anyway,don't let she use you to take a US citizenship card , record her abuse behavior to show to court. when she is trying make you angry, you just leave home for some hour till you feel better, tell the neighbour about her crazy behavior and why you are leaving home for some hours, may be some day you need your neighbour help for court , call the police when she is acting like abuse person.

Find a lawyer to keep you from more harm.

GOD will save you from this kind devils.

Edited January 30, 2014 by Me_Theo

[Jessicacallum 14]

God this annoys me no wonder our journeys take ages when there people like your ex wife being a using tool makes me sick get back to her own country

[Brit Abroad 166]

Darnell, could you provide a link to this "How"? Since all this started my mind is swiss cheese.

Up at the top, where the bar says Home, Forums, Portals, Guides etc ... to the right is a Search box. Type in FDNS "Darnell". This will bring up a link of articles that explain how to go about reporting actual, suspected or potential fraud.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/439326-reporting-fraud-to-uscis/

Edited January 30, 2014 by Brit Abroad

[Avery Cates 1,141]

If she doesn't have her green card yet, I'd say get on a plane with her, telling her you two are going to get more of her family to bring over, give her a little of the ol' razzle dazzle at the airport and get back on a plane without her.

But looking at the timeline, I'm led to believe she already has it. Unfortunate.

[belinda63 2,981]

Do as Darnell suggest and report her. If you can gather evidence all the better.

You are divorcing, there is no reason for you to ever see her or speak to her outside of Court. Heed this advise. Although she can remove conditions without you sounds like she doesn't know that and is baiting you for domestic violence. Don't fall for it as it could have consequences for you. Don't talk to her, don't see her, have nothing to do with her. I have been divorced more than 15 years from my ex and I have spoken to him once outside of court since then and it was by accident when I called to speak to my children. He has tried baiting me during exchanges and when I failed to fall for it he just made up stuff that I supposedly said. The best policy is to not speak at all and make it know to everyone you do not even say HI to her.