bad stories

[pancu 0]

hi everybody i have something to share all of you guys.. i had a bad stories. one day i went to niagara falls it was just a visit to there. we were 4 friends..my friend said us like a can we pass to canada ..i said i do not know but we can ask somebody.. we went to someone who was working toll plaza at there. he said us i do not have any idea but best info you can ask to canadian officer. fallow these people and you will find a pedestrian walk way and will se the door open the door go to canadian officer place by walking on the rainbow bridge.. we did like that .. we opened door walk on the bridge and arrived to officer place i mean custom. but canadian police took our id ,, they gave us just one paper that was like a refuuge .. they said go to the usa custom with there paper. we backed to usa custom. officer was very angry to us. i had just valid id no paqssport no nothing else ( green card or travel documentation)officer tooks my fingerprints and took photo and said me okey go ahead open the exit door . but he said me it is going to big problem when you apply citizenship. it is basicly like that.. so pls evrybody .. write commens.... is it gonna be bad affect on my case???

[VanessaTony 3,567]

What exactly was the paperwork that you were given?

[pancu 0]

actually .. the paper was like a photocopy.. and it says.. according to the canadian custom act bla bla .. i did not remember but it about like a refugee and we can not get you to passing canada.. i di not try to pass canada i just went there to get some information but i think they thought that these guys are trying to pass canada and they gave us papers. usa custom officer took that paper from us. already canadian officer said us do not loose this paper go back to usa custom and give them

[pancu 0]

hi dear all my best friends..i have something to say you . i was entried to usa from raibow bridge at the niagara falls without green card and passport just i had a valid driver licance.. the officer was approved to my entry but he said it is gonna be big problem when you apply to usa citizenship..pls anyone who can tell me ..how is it gonna be problem or bad affect on my application status??

[Hypnos 6,576]

If you crossed the border and stated that you were a US citizen to CBP then that carries a lifetime bar from the US that is non-waiverable.

[nwctzn 55]

hi dear all my best friends..i have something to say you . i was entried to usa from raibow bridge at the niagara falls without green card and passport just i had a valid driver licance.. the officer was approved to my entry but he said it is gonna be big problem when you apply to usa citizenship..pls anyone who can tell me ..how is it gonna be problem or bad affect on my application status??

Do you know which date you entered?

Enter all travel truthfully on the N-400 form. If the officer asks during the interview specifically about this border crossing then disclose everything truthfully.

Edited December 8, 2012 by nwctzn

[NickD 202]

January 23, 2007 was the exact date you were required as a US citizen to enter the USA from Canada via the airlines.

June 1, 2009 was the black day you were required the same US passport by walking, driving, riding a bike, or coming in by a boat to enter the USA from Canada.

As a LPR, required to have your green card and current valid foreign passport, surprised this officer even let you enter, and further surprised you even attempted to cross without this documentation.

All this after over 200 years of open borders, was strictly an executive decision by that idiot Bush, but for some odd reason, Obama is not reversing it. Well not too odd, if just one terrorist enters from Canada, he will be history. The day before these two dates, you didn't need anything to cross that border.

Really crazy, all the terrorists that did come here, came here legally. We with not so rich relatives find its impossible to bring a loved one here to even obtain a visa. Really all you need to get one, is to have lots of money, terrorists are not exactly broke. So what in the hell this law is doing beats the hell out of me for national security. Plus 3,500 of unprotected border to cross, only find these POE at major highways or airports. But then we have a country ran by idiots.

But its the law, wife and I were within a few feet of the border, but elected not to cross after these dates, wasn't intentional, just came close, but neither of us had the proper documentation, so why risk it? We had it at home, but wasn't planning on crossing the border. USCIS expects us to know all the laws and to obey them, ignorance is no excuse to break a law.

For you, was this crossing documented? Seems like if it was, that officer would also be in trouble for letting you pass. He is equally breaking the law. But if you lie and get caught, will be deported. What can anyone say about your situation, you just don't do things like this.

[pancu 0]

you mean the problam that was occured at the september 16 2012.. this is gonna be bad affect on my appcilation to n400 desicion... ??

[NickD 202]

Were you on the USA side and walked across this bridge into Canada? And Canada let you in?

"VISA INFORMATION

Persons wishing to travel to Canada whom are not U.S. citizens (ie: foreigner) may be required to get a tourist visa from the Canadian consulate in the country from which they are arriving from. If you are in the USA on a visa and wish to visit Canada while in New York there is a Canadian consulate located in Buffalo New York. YOU CANNOT OBTAIN A TOURIST VISA AT ANY OF THE BORDER CROSSINGS. When contacting the Consul, inform them that you wish to obtain a "temporary resident visa". As of April 1st 2012 the fee per person is $75 for a single entry visa, $150 for a multiple entry visa or $400 for a family (multiple or single entry). To contact the Canadian consulate in Buffalo call 716-858 9591 Fax: 716-852-2477. For online information visit the Canadian Consul Website "

Without these details, difficult to say, you don't give any details. But apparently had problems walking back into the USA.

I can relate to this experience when we had an eight hour layover at the Toronto airport. Wife as a LPR wanted to see the town. Canadian POE didn't want to see any of our paper work, just said go and spend some of your money with a laugh. But coming back to the US POE was hell, shoes off, inspection, had to see all kinds of proof before they would let us come back in.

Is this your experience? Prior to these dates, still had guards, but were half asleep, just waved you on without any identification, just asked, didn't check to see if you were carrying any firearms, alcohol, and the worst thing, a plant of some sort.

At that time, we didn't even know my wife was required to have a visa to enter Canada, they never asked or told us. But she didn't need that coming back to the USA side, just her green card and current valid foreign passport.

Again, was your return trip documented? Really guess the only thing you can say to your IO, both the Canadian and USA POE permitted you to walk across that bridge without your green card nor foreign passport. Over the years, millions of people have walked across that same bridge without their "papers".

[Ontarkie 13,943]

Canadian and US Citizens are still being let in without a passport, sometimes they turn them around and sometimes they don't. What you need to know is how did they let you in.

I'm assuming you told them that you are a green card holder and that is why the guy said you would have trouble at your interview, because by law you are supposed to be carrying your GC with you at all times and you did not.

Now how did you enter Canada? As a GC holder you would not need a visa if your Country would normally need one, but as you didn't have your GC either how did you present yourself on the Canadian side? If you told them you are a permanent resident of the US and they let you through without needing you GC and just your Drivers license I would not worry about it all. Also do you have the enhance license?

At any time did you let anyone think/believe you were a USC if not then I do not believe you will have too much of a problem, just explain why you left your GC at home if you are asked.

[Darnell 8,478]

so, did you ever get your question answered, like by the canadian immigration official, or not?

It sounds like you never, ever, asked the canadian immigration offical the question, and instead, were processed INTO Canada.

Enjoy your time ! Viagra Falls is fun !

[Darnell 8,478]

...is this person still a friend of yours? As , apparently, that friend has helped you make a decision to cross into the USA from Canada as an asylum seeker.

What's up with that? Seriously? You still talking to that person?

[pancu 0]

let me explain it basicly ..one day i went to niagara falls it was just a visit to there. we were 4 friends..my friend said us like a can we pass to canada ..i said i do not know but we can ask somebody.. we went to someone who was working toll plaza at there. he said us i do not have any idea but best info you can ask to canadian officer. fallow these people and you will find a pedestrian walk way and will se the door open the door go to canadian officer place by walking on the rainbow bridge.. we did like that .. we opened door walk on the bridge and arrived to officer place i mean custom. but canadian police took our id ,, they gave us just one paper that was like a refuuge .. they said go to the usa custom with there paper. we backed to usa custom. officer was very angry to us. i had just valid id no paqssport no nothing else ( green card or travel documentation)officer tooks my fingerprints and took photo and said me okey go ahead open the exit door . but he said me it is going to big problem when you apply citizenship. it is basicly like that.. so pls evrybody .. write commens.... is it gonna be bad affect on my case???

[Darnell 8,478]

why be repetitive?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/398553-bad-stories/

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Did any of your friends mention seeking asylum in Canada? That appears to be what the Canadian authorities thought you were trying to do.

Since you didn't have your green card and had no other type of residency or citizenship identification, and requested permission to enter Canada - and depending on what your friends said - it sounds like the Canadian authorities thought you were seeking asylum. You will definitely have some 'explaining' to do when you apply for US citizenship - and depending on the surrounding circumstances (if there is more to your story than you have mentioned) it could indeed be grounds for denial.

Just for information purposes - Canada and the US have an agreement that neither will accept refugees that show up at a POE from either country. Anyone seeking asylum must apply in the 'first' country they physically land in - if they arrive in the US, then they must apply in the US. If they arrive in Canada, they must apply in Canada. Up until that Agreement was passed over 75% of refugee claims to Canada were filed from an American POE. No one in the US from a third country can apply for refugee status in Canada and no one in Canada from a third country can apply for refugee status in the US.