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1-864 scares the hell out of me

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amyandjorge
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I see it like this, the US gov't acknowledges that people make mistakes sometimes. In the case of an immigrant on welfare, either you pay for your mistake, or the taxpayers as a whole do. Whether

Laure&Colin
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A lot of you seem to think that he should just do it and not even think about it. Ironically, the forums are also full of people discovering they're still legally bound to their ex-spouse after divor

Helen Louise Pile
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Yes. What's scary about it? You are agreeing to provide for your spouse and if you're married, you've already made that vow.

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the I-864 is a scary legal document. If I do not sign it, will the visa be denied?

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the I-864 is a scary legal document. If I do not sign it, will the visa be denied?

Yes.

What's scary about it?

You are agreeing to provide for your spouse and if you're married, you've already made that vow.

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Why wouldn't want to sign it? Part of process. You have second thoughts about the marriage later? Financial responsibilities, come on now that wasn't even a thought that crossed my mind during my process.

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After a dreadful divorce - 25 years of marriage. Signing anything IS daunting! Love and vows have nothing to do with it. It is the way this document is worded and enforced!

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Yes.

What's scary about it?

You are agreeing to provide for your spouse and if you're married, you've already made that vow.

Where in the vows do you agree to provide for your spouse forever ? regardless of divorce... until they decide to become citizens. Heck... I don't have to legally provide for my children after they are 18!

For us over 50... with good jobs, adult children, homes in two countries and a mutual prenuptial, this document is still flawed!

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This topic causes me to wonder, if you were to get a divorce, does the I-864 still obligate you to financially provide for the person? I know the way my marriage is set up if I was to divorce, I pay her family approximately $6000 and that's it. A lot different than USA divorce!

YES!!!! this is a contract between you and the US Government and the government will only release you of providing for the person, once they become US citizens, you die, or after they have contributed 10 years into the system!

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Where in the vows do you agree to provide for your spouse forever ? regardless of divorce... until they decide to become citizens. Heck... I don't have to legally provide for my children after they are 18!

For us over 50... with good jobs, adult children, homes in two countries and a mutual prenuptial, this document is still flawed!

The 'As long as you both shall live" bit.

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I think it's kind of healthy to give it a thought before you sign. It is a big commitment, I agree.

On the other hand, it doesn't say you'll have to support your wife till she becomes a citizen, it says the government would come to you for any benefits she would get from them. That's a little different. If she is financially independant, the probability that she gets on welfare is low, don't you think?

Anyway, if you don't want to sign it, she won't have an immigrant visa, period.

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Wow! Yes it is a big thing to bring your spouse over and yes that document puts a burden on you if you decide to split up but surley this can not have come as a surprise to you?

If my husband started to have these kinds of thoughts this late in the process as you guys are I'd be well upset!

Have you talked to your spouse about your fears?

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