What's the story with American Women?

[Ivanovo 0]

PurrSuede!

Welcome back -- haven't seen you here since 2003 or so!

Sorry to hear things didn't work out for you.

seems that selfish "me first" trait is not just an American trait after all

[ILIKEALLCAPS 0]

I totally prefer foreign men. They tend to put their relationship before anything else which in my experience most American men don't. SOL

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you hit the nail on the head right there... and that's what some of us have meant by " she became Americanized "... She's no longer putting the RELATIONSHIP before anything else, but only her own self-serving interests... It's not that the job, the friends, being independent, having money to spend, making her own decisions, or any of the other stuff is the problem. The problem is that those ~things~ have somehow become more important to them than the relationship itself!

Regardless of which side of the gender divide, I would think most of us, male or female would tend to say one of the PROBLEMS in the "American" relationship was the SELFISH-ness of the partner, and putting themselves first before the relationship. And usually we tend to find in the "foreign" partner more of a SELFLESS-ness...

I think that says more about the "ME FIRST" attitude of the American culture, regardless of gender.

And no, frankly I'm not looking for a slave, I'm looking for a PARTNER, who believes in TEAM-work and someone who believes the RELATIONSHIP (and marriage and family) is MORE important than self-serving selfish interests.

It's about two people coming together to make ONE, not two people deciding to be out for themselves and the hell with the other person, anyway... that's the "Americanized" attitude I'm sick of, and I blame a lot of it on our selfish, self-serving culture that we were raised in.

-- Dan

"We now return you to our regularly scheduled flamethrowing..."

Don't ya just hate it when they start making their own decisions? Next thing you know they want to be treated like human beings instead of sex toys.

[tmma 467]

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you hit the nail on the head right there... and that's what some of us have meant by " she became Americanized "... She's no longer putting the RELATIONSHIP before anything else, but only her own self-serving interests... It's not that the job, the friends, being independent, having money to spend, making her own decisions, or any of the other stuff is the problem. The problem is that those ~things~ have somehow become more important to them than the relationship itself!

Regardless of which side of the gender divide, I would think most of us, male or female would tend to say one of the PROBLEMS in the "American" relationship was the SELFISH-ness of the partner, and putting themselves first before the relationship. And usually we tend to find in the "foreign" partner more of a SELFLESS-ness...

I think that says more about the "ME FIRST" attitude of the American culture, regardless of gender.

And no, frankly I'm not looking for a slave, I'm looking for a PARTNER, who believes in TEAM-work and someone who believes the RELATIONSHIP (and marriage and family) is MORE important than self-serving selfish interests.

It's about two people coming together to make ONE, not two people deciding to be out for themselves and the hell with the other person, anyway... that's the "Americanized" attitude I'm sick of, and I blame a lot of it on our selfish, self-serving culture that we were raised in.

-- Dan

"We now return you to our regularly scheduled flamethrowing..."

Arn't you late for your meeting at the Men's Association?

Run along now....Cookies will be ready when you get back!

[Caladan 19]

I totally prefer foreign men. They tend to put their relationship before anything else which in my experience most American men don't. SOL

DING DING DING DING!

you hit the nail on the head right there... and that's what some of us have meant by " she became Americanized "... She's no longer putting the RELATIONSHIP before anything else, but only her own self-serving interests... It's not that the job, the friends, being independent, having money to spend, making her own decisions, or any of the other stuff is the problem. The problem is that those ~things~ have somehow become more important to them than the relationship itself!

Regardless of which side of the gender divide, I would think most of us, male or female would tend to say one of the PROBLEMS in the "American" relationship was the SELFISH-ness of the partner, and putting themselves first before the relationship. And usually we tend to find in the "foreign" partner more of a SELFLESS-ness...

I think that says more about the "ME FIRST" attitude of the American culture, regardless of gender.

And no, frankly I'm not looking for a slave, I'm looking for a PARTNER, who believes in TEAM-work and someone who believes the RELATIONSHIP (and marriage and family) is MORE important than self-serving selfish interests.

It's about two people coming together to make ONE, not two people deciding to be out for themselves and the hell with the other person, anyway... that's the "Americanized" attitude I'm sick of, and I blame a lot of it on our selfish, self-serving culture that we were raised in.

-- Dan

"We now return you to our regularly scheduled flamethrowing..."

I'd agree that selfishness is a problem (though I wouldn't call wanting to have a job selfish), but I wouldn't equate 'selfish' with 'being Americanized.' Maybe it's just because I have a number of international friends due to school, but it seems to me that men and women are capable of varying kinds of selfish (& making demands on husbands & wives) regardless of culture.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

I hope that previous poster feels like a ####### now.

Not necessarily... is ILIKEALLCAPS also jjjimmy the individual that I quoted. Look before you leap!!! Cheers!!!

Edited September 30, 2006 by Uling

[jjjimmy 0]

Gupt - You are a riot! Great way to break-out the song "American Woman." Yeah Baby Yeah! Cheers!!! - Sheriff Uling

this is bullshit i was married before to a WONDERFUL western woman from ohio and she had lots of qualities that make it work.relationships have to do with individuals not geography.

You WERE married. That right there sums it up... Thanks!!!

yes i WAS, she died you jackass!

[Sheriff Uling 3]

[yes i WAS, she died you jackass!

My bad, but you can take your jack and stick it up your own ###!!!

Edited September 30, 2006 by Uling

[jjjimmy 0]

and no im not ILIKEALLCAPS

[PurrSuede 0]

PurrSuede!

Welcome back -- haven't seen you here since 2003 or so!

Sorry to hear things didn't work out for you.

Thank you... actually I was here a bit in 2004, right up until I left for Moscow to bring her back to America with me... and then (go figure!) I was so busy with our relationship, such as it was, and some other issues as well, that I really didn't have much time for VJ...

And then suddenly, I was seeing an immigration attorney in order to discuss our divorce proceedings, and gee... how's that for a topic to return to VJ about??? LOL

So yeah, I've been on hiatus from VJ for two years, but now I'm back... and yeah, I'm seriously thinking of doing it all over again...

but I'm living proof that just because you marry a "foreign" woman it is no guarantee of a "happy ever after" ending, either, but hey, I could have stayed right here in America with the same results, and missed out on one hell of an adventure...

Damn the IMBRA waiver... full speed ahead... LOL

Anyway, thanks for the good wishes and the flower

-- Dan

Don't ya just hate it when they start making their own decisions? Next thing you know they want to be treated like human beings instead of sex toys.

It takes TWO people to decide to make a marriage work, but only one to decide to break it...

-- Dan

[ceriserose 1]

[yes i WAS, she died you jackass!

My bad, but you can take your jack and stick it up your own ###!!!

I don't know why I continue to be amazed. But I do.

[ILIKEALLCAPS 0]

[yes i WAS, she died you jackass!

My bad, but you can take your jack and stick it up your own ###!!!

[Lewis 0]

[Sheriff Uling 3]

ceriserose - Whateva! Find someone else to pick on BULLY! LOL! Cheers!!!

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

wow -- i think VJ has hit new lows. And that takes something.

[ceriserose 1]

ceriserose - Whateva! Find someone else to pick on BULLY! LOL! Cheers!!!

I wasn't speaking to you. If I were I'd have used smaller words.

Of course, I can see that you've stopped *continually* ignoring me. Shame. It was nicer when you didn't reply.