Pulitzer-prize winner Vargas says he's an illegal immigrant

[The Dude 206]

You would have to read one of Duncan's/fishdudes threads on here to understand that one. Try the FEMA thread ...it's like a new take on Abbot and Costello's "Who's on first".

Being an illegal immigrant is not a crime.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

You would have to read one of Duncan's/fishdudes threads on here to understand that one. Try the FEMA thread ...it's like a new take on Abbot and Costello's "Who's on first".

I'm not trying to create confusion or comedy. This just happens to be one of my pet peeves. Under the law, a person within the US illegally is under civil not criminal law. Now that's not to say the he hasn't committed a crime, there is just no reference in the article to it.

Edited June 22, 2011 by Sousuke

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I'm not trying to create confusion or comedy. This just happens to be one of my pet peeves. Under the law, a person within the US illegally is under civil not criminal law. Now that's not to say the he hasn't committed a crime, there is just no reference in the article to it.

I stand corrected. I just did a google on that after reading that post of yours and I'm wrong on this one.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=43154

Court rules: Illegal aliens not really 'illegal'

While unsanctioned crossing forbidden,

being in U.S. without authorization isn't

[The Dude 206]

I stand corrected. I just did a google on that after reading that post of yours and I'm wrong on this one.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=43154

Court rules: Illegal aliens not really 'illegal'

While unsanctioned crossing forbidden,

being in U.S. without authorization isn't

The act of illegally entering the country is a crime. Unfortunately, that virtually never gets detected.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

How is he a criminal? The article doesn't indicate any criminal acts.

From the CNN article:

Using false documents and Social Security numbers to try to make it by. He even once gave the Secret Service an illegally obtained Social Security number so he could attend a White House dinner.

Sounds like a criminal to me!

[The Dude 206]

From the CNN article:

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Sounds like a criminal to me!

Fraud will do it. I'm interested how this will play out. Somehow, I don't think they will prosecute him for the fraud. There will be some who will use this as a stage to call for amnesty.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Ok, sounds criminal to me.

[Darnell 8,478]

ya, 'wrong documents' is fraud, is fraud in this case a criminal act?

I say yes, others might say no.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I'm not sure what you are implying. Please enlighten me.

Your attitude is what supoportst he exploitation of humans for profit. Are you against minimum wage? OSHA? Child labor laws? FMLA? Social Security? Medicare? Illegal aliens generally receive none of those things.

Vargas should not be deported, I do not care about that. Employers should be taxed heavily for employing illegals.

You should stop supporting what amounts to slavery.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,235]

I read this article this morning on Huffpost.

This guy is guilty of document fraud. That's a felony. He's also in the country without authorization and a textbook example to show that "illegal immigrants do only jobs no American will do" is incorrect.

So I hope his "celebrity" status will not prevent the authorities from doing what the law requires. I hope he has been arrested already and will be charged with fraud. Once he has served his time behind bars and is being released from prison, he should be escorted to the airport and be deported with a lifetime bar attached. The legislator should show that indeed all people are equal under the law.

Edited June 23, 2011 by Just Bob

[luckytxn 2,263]

Deport him after arresting him and then ban him for life.

[luckytxn 2,263]

Wait. Let me get this straight. Some think it is legal to be an illegal.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Wait. Let me get this straight. Some think it is legal to be an illegal.

No one said anything like that.

Your attitude is what supoportst he exploitation of humans for profit. Are you against minimum wage? OSHA? Child labor laws? FMLA? Social Security? Medicare? Illegal aliens generally receive none of those things.

Vargas should not be deported, I do not care about that. Employers should be taxed heavily for employing illegals.

You should stop supporting what amounts to slavery.

What attitude? You've just pulled a bunch of random things out of your #### here. I never said any of it.

Deport him after arresting him and then ban him for life.

He probably will be for claiming to be a US citizen.

Edited June 23, 2011 by Sousuke

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The act of illegally entering the country is a crime. Unfortunately, that virtually never gets detected.

This is true but generally people don't get sent to jail for crimes comittted as minors, especially when they have no knowledge of the crime. That's why people like this should be granted some sort of amnesty. You live in a country nearly your entire life, it is your home.

Whether the guy is a criminal obviously depends on what he has done in his adult life. I expect he will have some difficulty questions to answer and his story shouldn't be taken at face value.

Your attitude is what supoportst he exploitation of humans for profit. Are you against minimum wage? OSHA? Child labor laws? FMLA? Social Security? Medicare? Illegal aliens generally receive none of those things.

Vargas should not be deported, I do not care about that. Employers should be taxed heavily for employing illegals.

You should stop supporting what amounts to slavery.

Gary if you pull that string on your back any more, it will break (if it hasn't already)

[luckytxn 2,263]

So a kid commits a crime then he is still not a criminal but just a kid?