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Question 18: "Has your Fiance(e) met and seen you within the two year...?"

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Here's what I've written in response to question 18:

"My fiance and I met while studying at Nanzan University in Nagoya, Japan and began dating on November, 2006. I returned to the U.S. on 07/05/2007 and since then we have vacationed together 2-3 times every year. We were engaged on 05/29/2009 at Yosemite National Park. Our most recent trip was to Buffalo/Toronto on 06/26/2010."

Does this seem sufficient enough?

In advance, thank you for the help!

-Alex

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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Here's what I've written in response to question 18:

"My fiance and I met while studying at Nanzan University in Nagoya, Japan and began dating on November, 2006. I returned to the U.S. on 07/05/2007 and since then we have vacationed together 2-3 times every year. We were engaged on 05/29/2009 at Yosemite National Park. Our most recent trip was to Buffalo/Toronto on 06/26/2010."

Does this seem sufficient enough?

In advance, thank you for the help!

-Alex

For sure you will choose yes and then write this story you have just said in the description part .

Sam


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Sounds like you did a good job. Did you also include a cover letter describing your relationship? Those usually help, especially when you get to the embassy/consulate section.

Good luck! :thumbs:


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Sounds like you did a good job. Did you also include a cover letter describing your relationship? Those usually help, especially when you get to the embassy/consulate section.

Good luck! :thumbs:

You are right Dodi


Beautiful patience.

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Thanks guys!

When you say "when you get to the embassy/consulate section" do you mean when the packet arrives at the embassy?

When you say "Did you also include a cover letter describing your relationship?" do you mean the cover letter for the packet?

I'm using Visa Journey's step by step guide (here) as my legend.

Sorry for asking so many questions! Just want to clarify and make sure I make no mistakes.

-Alex

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These are good questions, si man:

When you say "when you get to the embassy/consulate section" do you mean when the packet arrives at the embassy?
It appears that this reply means what you think it does. The consular officers (COs) will review the package before the actual visa interview, and may largely make up their minds about granting the visa even before your fiancee shows up for the interview.
When you say "Did you also include a cover letter describing your relationship?" do you mean the cover letter for the packet?
The cover letter for the entire K-1 petition should be more a list of what the contents of the petition package are. However, it never hurts (and very well could help) to include a "timeline of relationship" letter (with succinct elaboration) within the package. USCIS will not care (except to be sure that you two have met in person within two years of the petition's filing), but everything that you include will eventually be sent to the embassy. This can be very important for people who will deal with difficult embassies/consulates, and "front-loading" of the K-1 petition (with "proof of bona fide relationship" evidence) is recommended so that the COs will have this material, and so that the COs will know that USCIS has also seen it.
I'm using Visa Journey's step by step guide (here) as my legend.
Good for you! Should you have further questions or wish clarification about anything, we're here for you, si man.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Thailand
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Sorry for asking so many questions! Just want to clarify and make sure I make no mistakes.

-Alex

In addition to just answering Question 18 as you have done, you need to submit substantial evidence to document the meeting (or one of the meetings that occurred in the two years before the USCIS will recive the I-129F submission. Evidence from 2006 and 2007 will be of no use at this point of the process. Technically the same applies to the answer to Question 18. Anything before mid-2008 does not apply.

Only use evidence of meeting from about October 2008 to the present.

Good luck.


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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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I had initally described how we met....but then we ended up file much later than we anticipated and our meeting in 2007 was no longer valid. I changed my answer to when/how he proposed and included some pics of that night and the following weekend (we were visitn soem friends). So far so good as we are just waiting for teh interview date....

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When I did that part I put a small description in that box and then included an attached paper with a longer more in-detail description with dates and places (also included copies of the evidence such as airline tickets, receipts, photos, letters).


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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: China
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Evidence from 2006 and 2007 will be of no use at this point of the process. Technically the same applies to the answer to Question 18. Anything before mid-2008 does not apply. Only use evidence of meeting from about October 2008 to the present.

In terms of answering question 18 you are correct, however I would disagree about ignoring evidence prior to the two year mark in their petition. The prior evidence can be included as part of your front-loading of the petition and it will help to establish a clear and long-term relationship.


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In terms of answering question 18 you are correct, however I would disagree about ignoring evidence prior to the two year mark in their petition. The prior evidence can be included as part of your front-loading of the petition and it will help to establish a clear and long-term relationship.

Yes, you are also right. But you are guessing that front-loading will be required for the Tokyo Embassy. I do not think it is relevant.

I know TBoneTX insists on it but I think it is a case by case basis. I don't think there are any many rules that apply in ALL cases here.

Good luck.


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Yes, you are also right. But you are guessing that front-loading will be required for the Tokyo Embassy. I do not think it is relevant.

I know TBoneTX insists on it but I think it is a case by case basis. I don't think there are any many rules that apply in ALL cases here.

Not untrue at all, but the OP has never said which embassy he'd be dealing with. I too assumed that it would be Tokyo at first, from the context, but he never said. Assumption can be dangerous. Nonetheless, the OP should read the "Embassy Info" & "Embassy Reviews" for whichever location is applicable, perhaps contact a few recent interviewees there if there are conflicting reports, and proceed accordingly, si man.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Yes, you are also right. But you are guessing that front-loading will be required for the Tokyo Embassy. I do not think it is relevant.

I know TBoneTX insists on it but I think it is a case by case basis. I don't think there are any many rules that apply in ALL cases here.

Good luck.

I am sure that Tokyo has very low fraud rate, as evidenced by the low number of VJ members going through Tokyo versus other countries. With that being said, intelligent front-loading will not hurt the case/petition so I see no reason to not advocate this. However, there seems to be a growing issue with the implementation of the SAFEFILE system and much of the front-load material not being transferred with the original petition. So, even in the case of a high fraud country it may become necessary to change tactics in the future.


Nov 6, 2009: "I had breakfast in Korea, lunch in Shanghai, and dinner in Chongqing...now I just need to find a squat toilet..."

K1 completion: 03-10-2010, PINK!!!(well..it's orangish)
POE: Chicago/ORD 05-21-2010
Married: 05-26-2010
AOS completion: 10-28-2010
ROC completion: 05-16-2013

Naturalized: 11-21-2014

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Seabroax,

The information you received seems pretty good. But remember that you must provide evidence of having met in the last two years. So, make sure you have copies of receipts and passport stamps that corroborate your statements of when you were together. Talk is cheap but documentation is gold. :thumbs:

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