Attitudes of Posters

[mox 298]

And then there are posts like this. SO helpful, so pertinent to the discussion at hand. Somebody PLEASE just give everybody max hearts and be done with it.

[besaangel 17]

And then there are posts like this. SO helpful, so pertinent to the discussion at hand. Somebody PLEASE just give everybody max hearts and be done with it.

And I thought this forum was abt attitudes of posters, or should I be arguing the point of analogy and calling out people's names? Would that be better Mox?

Edited March 24, 2010 by besaangel

[besaangel 17]

And who cares about hearts- are you serious? That was just mediocre for you to even suggest. LOL. This is such a mature response- what are you in pre-k?

[bakofoil 27]

I DO get annoyed with the posters who obviously can't be bothered to read either the guides, form instructions or do a quick search of the forum to see if their same question has been asked and answered before (it almost always has been). But knowing such things annoy me, I either skip reading those threads all together or don't reply (if I do happen to read the thread for some reason). I figure if I can't say anything nice/constructive, why say anything at all?

I'm only quoting this section from your post because I couldn't be bothered to find the previous post where this particular issue was mentioned and I want to make a point about it. Nothing personal because actually you are amongst those who are/were missed, for quality of information and snarkiness alike.

Anyway, back to the point. I don't really understand why it's such a big deal that people post the same old questions over and over, basic immigration questions which can be solved in the way you describe. I think basic annoying repetitive questions generally serve a good purpose. I cut my VJ teeth answering that kind of thing and it also helped to build up both my accuracy rating and my hearts count! Really, I should post more.

I generally get a little bit narked when people routinely post the 'Read the Guides' smiley in response to those basic questions because, honestly, as you say, why bother posting at all? Why not just skip by to something more gritty and leave the simple stuff for someone else to answer.

There are people who like to read the instructions before assembling their IKEA furniture and those who don't and reach the same end but usually have a few screws leftover. I guess either way is ok as long as you don't make a bookcase out of a bunkbed.

[besaangel 17]

I'm only quoting this section from your post because I couldn't be bothered to find the previous post where this particular issue was mentioned and I want to make a point about it. Nothing personal because actually you are amongst those who are/were missed, for quality of information and snarkiness alike.

Anyway, back to the point. I don't really understand why it's such a big deal that people post the same old questions over and over, basic immigration questions which can be solved in the way you describe. I think basic annoying repetitive questions generally serve a good purpose. I cut my VJ teeth answering that kind of thing and it also helped to build up both my accuracy rating and my hearts count! Really, I should post more.

I generally get a little bit narked when people routinely post the 'Read the Guides' smiley in response to those basic questions because, honestly, as you say, why bother posting at all? Why not just skip by to something more gritty and leave the simple stuff for someone else to answer.

There are people who like to read the instructions before assembling their IKEA furniture and those who don't and reach the same end but usually have a few screws leftover. I guess either way is ok as long as you don't make a bookcase out of a bunkbed.

Good point

[TracyTN 237]

I'm only quoting this section from your post because I couldn't be bothered to find the previous post where this particular issue was mentioned and I want to make a point about it. Nothing personal because actually you are amongst those who are/were missed, for quality of information and snarkiness alike.

Anyway, back to the point. I don't really understand why it's such a big deal that people post the same old questions over and over, basic immigration questions which can be solved in the way you describe. I think basic annoying repetitive questions generally serve a good purpose. I cut my VJ teeth answering that kind of thing and it also helped to build up both my accuracy rating and my hearts count! Really, I should post more.

I generally get a little bit narked when people routinely post the 'Read the Guides' smiley in response to those basic questions because, honestly, as you say, why bother posting at all? Why not just skip by to something more gritty and leave the simple stuff for someone else to answer.

There are people who like to read the instructions before assembling their IKEA furniture and those who don't and reach the same end but usually have a few screws leftover. I guess either way is ok as long as you don't make a bookcase out of a bunkbed.

Thanks!

I do get your point - about 'cutting your teeth' on such things. I suppose my frustration is partially due to having been around here for such a long time.

But at the same time, I was also a noob at one point -- and I took the time and trouble to use the materials that were painstakingly created for just that purpose (guides, flowcharts, 'know your options', FAQs, etc). Not only did I think I should - just so I would understand exactly what the process entailed - but also because they were obviously placed there to lead me in the right direction.

I suppose my 'failing' is I expect/want others to do the same thing I did, esp. as it only took me maybe a few hours of reading before I understood what was what and which option made the most sense for us at the time. Isn't it always better to come from a semi educated place and THEN ask questions? Maybe I'm too self reliant for my own good though.

*edited for clarity*

Edited March 24, 2010 by TracyTN

[Nagishkaw 510]

And who cares about hearts- are you serious? That was just mediocre for you to even suggest. LOL. This is such a mature response- what are you in pre-k?

Pot meet kettle. So was your blatant name calling.

Edited March 24, 2010 by Nagishkaw

[Ban Hammer 12,853]

And who cares about hearts- are you serious? That was just mediocre for you to even suggest. LOL. This is such a mature response- what are you in pre-k?

interesting response, given the below directed at nagi.

you are so dispicable... Have yourself a great day lol

[bakofoil 27]

Thanks!

I do get your point - about 'cutting your teeth' on such things. I suppose my frustration is partially due to having been around here for such a long time.

But at the same time, I was also a noob at one point -- and I took the time and trouble to use the materials that were painstakingly created for just that purpose (guides, flowcharts, 'know your options', FAQs, etc). Not only did I think I should - just so I would understand exactly what the process entailed - but also because they were obviously placed there to lead me in the right direction.

I suppose my 'failing' is I expect/want others to do the same thing I did, esp. as it only took me maybe a few hours of reading before I understood what was what and which option made the most sense for us at the time. Isn't it always better to come from a semi educated place and THEN ask questions? Maybe I'm too self reliant for my own good though.

*edited for clarity*

You're welcome!

Actually, I did too. I was so scared, at first, of being lambasted for asking a stupid question that I did take the time and trouble to read the guides. I joined a bit later than you, probably a short time before you took a break from the BS. I don't think it's a failing at all to want people to use the board in its entirety and to its potential. The guides, FAQs, timelines and such are such a valuable source of information and new users should definitely be guided there. I totally agree with all your points about reading and then asking questions.

My annoyance is not with those who are experienced and generally constructive about pointing people in the right direction. My pet peeve is with those personalities who take on an expert, negative and impatient tone with anyone below them in the immigration food chain and also get defensive with those who may well be qualified to correct them on the quality of their information.

As a point of interest, whenever I've had a complicated question to ask it has usually been better served on some of the other immigration boards, which tend to be less judgemental and where many of the good people from VJ took a break from the BS.

[TracyTN 237]

My annoyance is not with those who are experienced and generally constructive about pointing people in the right direction. My pet peeve is with those personalities who take on an expert, negative and impatient tone with anyone below them in the immigration food chain and also get defensive with those who may well be qualified to correct them on the quality of their information.

As a point of interest, whenever I've had a complicated question to ask it has usually been better served on some of the other immigration boards, which tend to be less judgemental and where many of the good people from VJ took a break from the BS.

Yeah - it's harder for some to apply the 'if you can't say anything nice' rule than others. Though all of us have our bad days I suppose!

I mod one of those other boards you mention - it was a welcome relief (still is)!

[Kathryn41 3,205]

I find it somewhat ironic that I am having to issue a warning against name-calling, insults and personal attacks in a thread devoted to discussing the negative attitudes of some posters on VJ. Never-the-less, I am doing so. Insults and personal attacks accomplish nothing as well as being violations of the Terms of Service for Visa Journey. Please be courteous with your responses.

[besaangel 17]

interesting response, given the below directed at nagi.

Do you and Nag have anything better to do than to go around trying to insult me with your posts. There is always too sides but of course you quote mine and not Nag's... Unfortunately for you this is JUST A FORUM so I'll say what I will and you comment on them- since it makes u feel better

Edited March 24, 2010 by besaangel

[Mags 112]

And, regardless of accuracy rating (which has nothing to do with toxicity), pushbrk is here and RJ is not.

By her own choice.

[TBoneTX 43,175]

By her own choice.

Some have such choices thrust upon them. At any rate (in my opinion; yours differs), excellent riddance, and perhaps the moderators and even Admiral Ewok may agree. Edited March 25, 2010 by TBoneTX

[NArocks 13]

I find it somewhat ironic that I am having to issue a warning against name-calling, insults and personal attacks in a thread devoted to discussing the negative attitudes of some posters on VJ. Never-the-less, I am doing so. Insults and personal attacks accomplish nothing as well as being violations of the Terms of Service for Visa Journey. Please be courteous with your responses.