Attitudes of Posters

[Mags 112]

Toxicity and accuracy percentage are different matters entirely. For instance, an allogeneic stem cell transplant has a high rate of success if the patient actually survives, if you catch my drift.

All aboard for the irony boat, all aboard! I still have a ticket if you want one. Because, you really missed my point there. Which wasn't really serious. Although Becca really DOES have a 99% accuracy rating in my eyes.

And I agree with Mox. I'd take a million Rebeccajos over Pushberk.

Any freaking day.

Edited March 23, 2010 by Mags

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

All aboard for the irony boat, all aboard! I still have a ticket if you want one. Because, you really missed my point there. Which wasn't really serious. Although Becca really DOES have a 99% accuracy rating in my eyes.

And I agree with Mox. I'd take a million Rebeccajos over Pushberk.

Any freaking day.

I'm still missing your points actually, care to explain what an accuracy level has in relation to "toxicity"?

Edited March 23, 2010 by Sousuke

[Mags 112]

Check me out!

A joke is no longer funny if you have to explain it. Although there are many who would disagree it was funny in the first place. Gave me a chortle though and that's the main thing.

Hello hello? *taps microphone* Is this thing on?

Damn.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Sorry hadn't really read that thread. I was beginning to wonder why the term "accuracy rating" was popping up everywhere.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

Well, we've gone from being rather vague to actually naming names. And remarkably it's stayed fairly civilized.

I'm duly impressed.

Message boards are like real life. Not surprising really as they are comprised of real individuals. You have winners, you have losers - it ain't no big deal

At the end of the day each person has to decide what is intolerable to them when it comes to the behavior of others. It is hard to see through the written word sometimes. Other times it's harder still to ascertain the motive behind the words. A wise participant to these types of communities will stop and think about that before they post.

I do know enough about VisaJourney to know rudeness and a lack of fair play has played an untold part in the "retirement" of many valuable people. I'm friends with quite a few of those people. I know their passion for helping others. I know why they've gone and I know where they've gone. Some of them are over 10 years past their own cases being culled onto the shelves of the service. Some of them have short tongues and a close-to-caustic manner. Some of them are charmers who can tell you nicely just how silly you are and make you like it. They've taken their skills and gone elsewhere. The cost to membership here - is dear.

And others of them have learned a very hard lesson. That if you take the bitterness of persons with another agenda, and try to fight with the same weapons, you can never recover.

No matter what your accuracy may be.

[TBoneTX 48,075]

if I were stranded on a desert island and had to pick between pushbrk and rebeccajo to advise me in the right immigration process to file myself off that island, I'd choose rebeccajo hands down.

I would be very happy to know that RJ was stranded on a desert island (Pitcairn?) while the wheels of USCIS slowly ground. And, regardless of accuracy rating (which has nothing to do with toxicity), pushbrk is here and RJ is not.

I still recommend that all current critics of pushbrk read his messages since the beginning of the year.

[TracyTN 237]

I was one of those old-timers who left -- I spent six months away from VJ because I was so fed up with the level of invective, vitriol and condescension being thrown about in the upper forums. I don't really know why I came back, but back I am. In general, I try to be minimally polite when I say "read the guides, f*cktard." You'll find most of my posts are helpful and welcoming as much as possible.* I don't get my rocks off by assuming that by belittling people is going to make me VJ Royalty. (Hell, I'm hardly even near the gates of the palace. I'm too busy in the pub.) I too don't agree with spoonfeeding, but if one person says "start with the guides," why should I pile on and repeat it?

I don't know, it's SUCH an old refrain that VJ ain't what it used to be, that no one thinks for themselves anymore, etc etc ad infinitum ad nauseam. But really? The level of bare-faced aggression in response to ignorance is staggering.

(*I will except the vibrator sh*tstorm of 2009, but how could anyone resist that one?)

Here here. Honestly the 'vitriolic' responses are no different than they have always been around here. Only the players are different. Many have tried (and failed!) to get it changed, but it just isn't what the masses seem to want, so the status quo stands.

I, too, took a break from here. I know I was not missed and that wasn't really the point. I just needed a break from the BS. I came back more focused on doling out immigration advice than getting involved in much else (certainly avoiding OT) because frankly, it's the immi stuff that butters my bread anyway. That's helped me be less disgruntled with the entire 'VJ experience'. I just take it way more lightly than I used to.

I DO get annoyed with the posters who obviously can't be bothered to read either the guides, form instructions or do a quick search of the forum to see if their same question has been asked and answered before (it almost always has been). But knowing such things annoy me, I either skip reading those threads all together or don't reply (if I do happen to read the thread for some reason). I figure if I can't say anything nice/constructive, why say anything at all?

Though that doesn't mean I'm exempting myself from posting the occasional snarky comment.

[besaangel 18]

You know what really grinds my gears, ppl who come on here asking for advice abt their jacked-up realtionships, then get mad at you for giving advice on the truth... If you didnt wanna hear the truth, then dont post in a forum, Pm someone in private...

Edited March 24, 2010 by besaangel

[besaangel 18]

And then there are posts like this. SO helpful, so pertinent to the discussion at hand. Somebody PLEASE just give everybody max hearts and be done with it.

And I thought this forum was abt attitudes of posters, or should I be arguing the point of analogy and calling out people's names? Would that be better Mox?

Edited March 24, 2010 by besaangel

[besaangel 18]

And who cares about hearts- are you serious? That was just mediocre for you to even suggest. LOL. This is such a mature response- what are you in pre-k?

[bakofoil 27]

I DO get annoyed with the posters who obviously can't be bothered to read either the guides, form instructions or do a quick search of the forum to see if their same question has been asked and answered before (it almost always has been). But knowing such things annoy me, I either skip reading those threads all together or don't reply (if I do happen to read the thread for some reason). I figure if I can't say anything nice/constructive, why say anything at all?

I'm only quoting this section from your post because I couldn't be bothered to find the previous post where this particular issue was mentioned and I want to make a point about it. Nothing personal because actually you are amongst those who are/were missed, for quality of information and snarkiness alike.

Anyway, back to the point. I don't really understand why it's such a big deal that people post the same old questions over and over, basic immigration questions which can be solved in the way you describe. I think basic annoying repetitive questions generally serve a good purpose. I cut my VJ teeth answering that kind of thing and it also helped to build up both my accuracy rating and my hearts count! Really, I should post more.

I generally get a little bit narked when people routinely post the 'Read the Guides' smiley in response to those basic questions because, honestly, as you say, why bother posting at all? Why not just skip by to something more gritty and leave the simple stuff for someone else to answer.

There are people who like to read the instructions before assembling their IKEA furniture and those who don't and reach the same end but usually have a few screws leftover. I guess either way is ok as long as you don't make a bookcase out of a bunkbed.

[besaangel 18]

I'm only quoting this section from your post because I couldn't be bothered to find the previous post where this particular issue was mentioned and I want to make a point about it. Nothing personal because actually you are amongst those who are/were missed, for quality of information and snarkiness alike.

Anyway, back to the point. I don't really understand why it's such a big deal that people post the same old questions over and over, basic immigration questions which can be solved in the way you describe. I think basic annoying repetitive questions generally serve a good purpose. I cut my VJ teeth answering that kind of thing and it also helped to build up both my accuracy rating and my hearts count! Really, I should post more.

I generally get a little bit narked when people routinely post the 'Read the Guides' smiley in response to those basic questions because, honestly, as you say, why bother posting at all? Why not just skip by to something more gritty and leave the simple stuff for someone else to answer.

There are people who like to read the instructions before assembling their IKEA furniture and those who don't and reach the same end but usually have a few screws leftover. I guess either way is ok as long as you don't make a bookcase out of a bunkbed.

Good point

[TracyTN 237]

I'm only quoting this section from your post because I couldn't be bothered to find the previous post where this particular issue was mentioned and I want to make a point about it. Nothing personal because actually you are amongst those who are/were missed, for quality of information and snarkiness alike.

Anyway, back to the point. I don't really understand why it's such a big deal that people post the same old questions over and over, basic immigration questions which can be solved in the way you describe. I think basic annoying repetitive questions generally serve a good purpose. I cut my VJ teeth answering that kind of thing and it also helped to build up both my accuracy rating and my hearts count! Really, I should post more.

I generally get a little bit narked when people routinely post the 'Read the Guides' smiley in response to those basic questions because, honestly, as you say, why bother posting at all? Why not just skip by to something more gritty and leave the simple stuff for someone else to answer.

There are people who like to read the instructions before assembling their IKEA furniture and those who don't and reach the same end but usually have a few screws leftover. I guess either way is ok as long as you don't make a bookcase out of a bunkbed.

Thanks!

I do get your point - about 'cutting your teeth' on such things. I suppose my frustration is partially due to having been around here for such a long time.

But at the same time, I was also a noob at one point -- and I took the time and trouble to use the materials that were painstakingly created for just that purpose (guides, flowcharts, 'know your options', FAQs, etc). Not only did I think I should - just so I would understand exactly what the process entailed - but also because they were obviously placed there to lead me in the right direction.

I suppose my 'failing' is I expect/want others to do the same thing I did, esp. as it only took me maybe a few hours of reading before I understood what was what and which option made the most sense for us at the time. Isn't it always better to come from a semi educated place and THEN ask questions? Maybe I'm too self reliant for my own good though.

*edited for clarity*

Edited March 24, 2010 by TracyTN

[Nagishkaw 510]

And who cares about hearts- are you serious? That was just mediocre for you to even suggest. LOL. This is such a mature response- what are you in pre-k?

Pot meet kettle. So was your blatant name calling.

Edited March 24, 2010 by Nagishkaw

[Ban Hammer 14,567]

And who cares about hearts- are you serious? That was just mediocre for you to even suggest. LOL. This is such a mature response- what are you in pre-k?

interesting response, given the below directed at nagi.

you are so dispicable... Have yourself a great day lol