Jump to content
shemarienp

I need serious help. 1st marriage of hubby called marriage fraud

 Share

89 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Pakistan
Timeline

I am new to the forum. My husband is a Pakistani immigrant. He's been here since 1997 and originally had an F1 visa. When he stopped studying, he did not return to Pakistan.

In 2002, he married a citizen. He states that soon after the marriage, she started using drugs, disappearing for days and weeks at a time. He would go to her mom's house to find her, and her mom would say that she had always been like this. He started getting letters from grocery stores about bad checks. In 2003, he filed for divorce, because he didn't want to be associated with her criminal activities. He states they separated in September 2003, because they were fighting a lot. He filed for divorce prior to the determination of his adjustment of status request.

Apparently, his ex-wife told the local police and FBI that it was a fraud marriage. She provided no physical evidence; it's only her word. She lied. My husband possesses far too detailed a level of knowledge about the marriage for it to have been false as she says it was. This person is a felon and a drug addict who was at the start of that career when she met my husband.

So now we have filed for AOJ. It was denied. Our interview was terrible but they do believe that the marriage (at least on my side, which is all we need) is valid.

Our attorney tells us we need to get sworn affidavits from the wife's family and the wife herself if possible. I pray to God we can get them. Has anyone else gone through something like this?

Also, I think our lawyer may not be all that great. He said nothing during this interview. Does anyone know a GOOD immigration attorney in Omaha, NE?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am new to the forum. My husband is a Pakistani immigrant. He's been here since 1997 and originally had an F1 visa. When he stopped studying, he did not return to Pakistan.

In 2002, he married a citizen. He states that soon after the marriage, she started using drugs, disappearing for days and weeks at a time. He would go to her mom's house to find her, and her mom would say that she had always been like this. He started getting letters from grocery stores about bad checks. In 2003, he filed for divorce, because he didn't want to be associated with her criminal activities. He states they separated in September 2003, because they were fighting a lot. He filed for divorce prior to the determination of his adjustment of status request.

Apparently, his ex-wife told the local police and FBI that it was a fraud marriage. She provided no physical evidence; it's only her word. She lied. My husband possesses far too detailed a level of knowledge about the marriage for it to have been false as she says it was. This person is a felon and a drug addict who was at the start of that career when she met my husband.

So now we have filed for AOJ. It was denied. Our interview was terrible but they do believe that the marriage (at least on my side, which is all we need) is valid.

Our attorney tells us we need to get sworn affidavits from the wife's family and the wife herself if possible. I pray to God we can get them. Has anyone else gone through something like this?

Also, I think our lawyer may not be all that great. He said nothing during this interview. Does anyone know a GOOD immigration attorney in Omaha, NE?

". This person is a felon and a drug addict who was at the start of that career when she met my husband."

Why did he marry her then?

K1 denied, K3/K4, CR-1/CR-2, AOS, ROC, Adoption, US citizenship and dual citizenship

!! ALL PAU!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Pakistan
Timeline

Clearly, he did not know this about her when he married her. She wasn't exactly upfront with him. They only dated for something like four-five months. There was a strong physical attraction, and they both, according to my husband, thought that marriage would make them more responsible. Like many young people, she thought marriage would fix her. He thought the same. People make this mistake everyday. I did it myself.

The main point, though, is that he did not marry her for a green card.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Clearly, he did not know this about her when he married her. She wasn't exactly upfront with him. They only dated for something like four-five months. There was a strong physical attraction, and they both, according to my husband, thought that marriage would make them more responsible. Like many young people, she thought marriage would fix her. He thought the same. People make this mistake everyday. I did it myself.

The main point, though, is that he did not marry her for a green card.

Good luck!

K1 denied, K3/K4, CR-1/CR-2, AOS, ROC, Adoption, US citizenship and dual citizenship

!! ALL PAU!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Pakistan
Timeline

I just really need to hear from people who have had this same kind of situation, if anyone is out there. And whether someone can please recommend a good immigration attorney in my city.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
Timeline
I just really need to hear from people who have had this same kind of situation, if anyone is out there. And whether someone can please recommend a good immigration attorney in my city.
Sincere sympathy for your situation.

As a helpful stopgap, and at least as a temporary alternative to your finding a reliable immigration attorney in Omaha, visit http://www.fosterquan.com and sign up for their phone or e-mail consultation. This is the largest immigration-law firm in Houston, and I found the attorneys to be absolutely reliable, prompt, and fair. They gave me far more than what I paid for their (very reasonable) e-mail consultation. They can reliably direct you regarding your predicament, and perhaps even refer you to an attorney in Omaha.

I have no connection with the firm except a positive personal experience. I became aware of the firm through my uncle, who has known the senior name-partner for many decades. Please let us know about your experience with them -- your story here is touching, and we want you to gain help.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am new to the forum. My husband is a Pakistani immigrant. He's been here since 1997 and originally had an F1 visa. When he stopped studying, he did not return to Pakistan.

In 2002, he married a citizen. He states that soon after the marriage, she started using drugs, disappearing for days and weeks at a time. He would go to her mom's house to find her, and her mom would say that she had always been like this. He started getting letters from grocery stores about bad checks. In 2003, he filed for divorce, because he didn't want to be associated with her criminal activities. He states they separated in September 2003, because they were fighting a lot. He filed for divorce prior to the determination of his adjustment of status request.

Apparently, his ex-wife told the local police and FBI that it was a fraud marriage. She provided no physical evidence; it's only her word. She lied. My husband possesses far too detailed a level of knowledge about the marriage for it to have been false as she says it was. This person is a felon and a drug addict who was at the start of that career when she met my husband.

So now we have filed for AOJ. It was denied. Our interview was terrible but they do believe that the marriage (at least on my side, which is all we need) is valid.

Our attorney tells us we need to get sworn affidavits from the wife's family and the wife herself if possible. I pray to God we can get them. Has anyone else gone through something like this?

Also, I think our lawyer may not be all that great. He said nothing during this interview. Does anyone know a GOOD immigration attorney in Omaha, NE?

Sorry to hear about your situation. Did the interviewer explicitly mentioned that your husband has commited marriage fraud? Did they deny him on the spot?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
Timeline

I am sorry for your situation. But you said that your husband was accused of marrying for a green card, then you say that YOUR AOS interview was denied. I don't understand this. Did your husband receive his green card from his first marriage?

Does your husband have any concrete evidence of his 1st's wife behaviour? Police records perhaps if she was arrested? Maybe do what your lawyer said and get sworn statements of her behaviour by his 1st wife's family.

What is the current status of your husband since your AOS was denied? What is the situation with your status?

USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am sorry for your situation. But you said that your husband was accused of marrying for a green card, then you say that YOUR AOS interview was denied. I don't understand this. Did your husband receive his green card from his first marriage?

Does your husband have any concrete evidence of his 1st's wife behaviour? Police records perhaps if she was arrested? Maybe do what your lawyer said and get sworn statements of her behaviour by his 1st wife's family.

What is the current status of your husband since your AOS was denied? What is the situation with your status?

Concur - I can see two red flags that would trigger me to suspect fraud.

1st he was out of status - then after a several months, got married. (unknown how long out of status he was)

2nd He gets divorced, but you make no mention if he continued on with the AOS, so, if he didn't AOS, he would be out of status, again.

Then he marries you and the AOS doesn't go well.

Does he have any evidence of entering the first marriage in good faith? The affidavits are a good start, but you may want more than that.

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Pakistan
Timeline

What happened was he got married to the first wife, then filed for AOJ. Since she decided to plead guilty to marriage fraud instead of everything else she was accused of, the AOJ was denied and the reason cited was that the marriage was supposedly fraudulent. However, no one ever questioned my husband about the marriage, there was never an interview, and he never received a notice that the AOJ was denied until two years after it was filed. He was never charged with marriage fraud and never deported, but she went to jail. Meanwhile, he's out there working, filing taxes, living like a normal person. However, yes, he was out of status, up until we filed for our AOJ.

Fast forward to now. We meet, we date for a year and a half. We decide to get married. My husband never pressured me to get married.

As for our AOJ, they gave us the interview, we went to the interview. It was grueling. It turns out that we went through the interview all for nothing. I think the officer just wanted to try and save me from the evil alien. They already had a letter denying the AOJ. We are appealing, and planning to present new evidence about the 1st marriage - ie affidavits from the 1st wife's family.

There is evidence against the 1st marriage being fraud. There is an affidavit from the wife's sister stating that it was a normal marriage. The wife's mother signed the marriage license. The FBI stated they never lived together, yet the address on the wife's driver's license was the marital address. The address on his license was the wife's mom's address. Furthermore, for them to never have lived together, he has way too much information and details for that to be true. A green card was not the primary purpose of that marriage.

No, he never received a green card.

I've already determined for myself after reviewing the evidence that he is not scamming me and that his 1st marriage was real. My husband has made mistakes and had lapses in judgment, that much is true, but these were honest mistakes. He's not scamming anyone and never has.

Edited by shemarienp
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Algeria
Timeline

If he has never had an approved AOS then he has been continually out of status (including now). Filing for AOS does not give him legal status. So, you have to proceed with this in mind. I am not sure how you overcome the past charge of fraud, but I do know that someone who has been found guilty of marriage fraud can NEVER AGAIN receive immigration benefits through marriage. Given this, I think you have to talk to a good attorney and find out how you get the fraud charge dropped before you try to do anything else. A lawyer should tell you this, but since we are talking about whether he (not his wife) committed marriage fraud, you will need not only to get her statements and those of her family, but find a way to prove HIS intentions.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If he has never had an approved AOS then he has been continually out of status (including now). Filing for AOS does not give him legal status. So, you have to proceed with this in mind. I am not sure how you overcome the past charge of fraud, but I do know that someone who has been found guilty of marriage fraud can NEVER AGAIN receive immigration benefits through marriage. Given this, I think you have to talk to a good attorney and find out how you get the fraud charge dropped before you try to do anything else. A lawyer should tell you this, but since we are talking about whether he (not his wife) committed marriage fraud, you will need not only to get her statements and those of her family, but find a way to prove HIS intentions.

Actually, it does. Filing for AOS, and getting the NOA, puts your status (whatever it was prior) to "pending".

Now - after that interview, your status may change, hopefully to the better.

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Other Country: China
Timeline
If he has never had an approved AOS then he has been continually out of status (including now). Filing for AOS does not give him legal status. So, you have to proceed with this in mind. I am not sure how you overcome the past charge of fraud, but I do know that someone who has been found guilty of marriage fraud can NEVER AGAIN receive immigration benefits through marriage. Given this, I think you have to talk to a good attorney and find out how you get the fraud charge dropped before you try to do anything else. A lawyer should tell you this, but since we are talking about whether he (not his wife) committed marriage fraud, you will need not only to get her statements and those of her family, but find a way to prove HIS intentions.

Actually, it does. Filing for AOS, and getting the NOA, puts your status (whatever it was prior) to "pending".

Now - after that interview, your status may change, hopefully to the better.

Yes, filing changes the status to pending but what's missing from the story is the actual stated reason for denying this most recent application to adjust status. Regardless, this really is a matter for an attorney, as your husband is soon to be facing deportion.

Facts are cheap...knowing how to use them is precious...
Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

Google Who is Pushbrk?

A Warning to Green Card Holders About Voting

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/606646-a-warning-to-green-card-holders-about-voting/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Algeria
Timeline

"Pending" is not the same as legal. If you enter legally (say on a K-1) and then go to adjust status you are not officially out of status during the "pending" process. But, if you are out of status when you file AOS, filing does not put you in status. You are in a pretty ambiguous spot in the meantime. Many people who are here illegally, marry a USC and then file the I-485 have been detained at their interview. Then again, I am coming from a MENA perspective and it may be the DHS chooses to excercize this option with MENA men more often than with those from other countries.

In this case, it is unclear what status the husband had before the first marriage and what his status is following the denial of both AOS attempts. But, if nothing has ever been approved, I would assume he is out of status.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 
Didn't find the answer you were looking for? Ask our VJ Immigration Lawyers.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...