God

[Sister Fracas 5]

to each his own...........

i say no prayers for my sister fracas and brother platy..but request they honor me with their friendship...in life, that is enough

Indeed wise Broster Dean... to each their own.

And of course you'll always be my

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Discounting the obvious social changes resulting from monotheistic religious, I tend to think that spiritual life was much more interesting in the ancient world when there was no single dominant religion.

[Sister Fracas 5]

ok...well, then I hope for your sake that you'll never end up in a situation where God is the only one to turn to

You don't see how that sounds sooo pompous?

It's the same to me as someone saying well, you'll wish you had a gun when your house is broken into and you are in danger. To me, that says people just can't grasp that there are other beliefs or opnions...at all.

I had to laugh at that comment - "I'm glad I go to church, because if I didn't God might not have struck down that mugger with a carefully guided thunderbolt"

[SteveLaura 0]

i agree..

if according to quantum physics, god is a being above the limit of the theoretical dimensions (11), in his plane, there's no time per se.. so, theres no after or before for him... everything kinda happens within him (like the king point from the flatlanders novel)..

but then.. on scientific terms, theoretically there was no time either before the big bang.. so before 'the earth' or universe, it was a timeless singularity.. IMO

If God exists, then doesn't it stand to reason (insofar as a belief in God can be considered reasonable) that He also created Time, and therefore before Creation there was nothing? Shunya, as the Vedas refer to it. Literal translation: zero.

Interesting. Thanks.

Can something exist outside of Time? I am used to things having a beginning (creation) and an end (death and/or destruction). Both these events occur in Time. Some things we can pinpoint the exact time of the occurence (my birth, for example, or my grandfather's death) and others we have to estimate (when man discovered tools or when dinosaurs became exist). Without Time, a minute and a million years become the same and are equally irrelevant. I can't comprehend how something can exist without having a time boundary (creation-destruction) surrounding it.

[Jenn! 918]

I can't comprehend how something can exist without having a time boundary (creation-destruction) surrounding it.

Of course you can't. Not with your puny brain!

[SteveLaura 0]

I can't comprehend how something can exist without having a time boundary (creation-destruction) surrounding it.

Of course you can't. Not with your puny brain!

Yeah, I aim too high. I can't even do percentages yet.

[✿Ice Rain✿ 0]

There is no god.

you've not met consolemaster yet, have you?

lol!!

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

This is a repost, for anyone who missed it.

This is the true face of the evil we call religion.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

...Christianity has created a clear hierarchy between people who go to heaven, whatever's in the middle (depending on your specific religion) and those who burn in hell. It's even visualized as heaven "above" and hell "below."

In effect, just being a Christian means you disrespect me. Believing in God doesn't mean that, though.

Alex, that is your understanding of Christianity but not mine nor many who follow the faith of Christianity. Just as there are many factions of Judaism, there are many factions of Christianity, some of which have quite opposing views on their beliefs. About the only that you can say with certainty is that all Christians believe that Jesus was the Messiah, Son of God...beyond that, there's not much that you can broadly define Christians with.

Edited May 28, 2008 by Jabberwocky

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

About the only that you can say with certainty is that all Christians believe that Jesus was the Messiah, Son of God...beyond that, there's not much that you can broadly define Christians with.

How about the Bible?

I am certain the Bible says more than that.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

About the only that you can say with certainty is that all Christians believe that Jesus was the Messiah, Son of God...beyond that, there's not much that you can broadly define Christians with.

How about the Bible?

I am certain the Bible says more than that.

Not really because there is a broad spectrum of just what the Bible is, what it means, and how it is to be interpreted among Christians. Typically, you only hear about Christians who regard the Bible as the ultimate and only source for their beliefs, but they don't represent all Christians.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

About the only that you can say with certainty is that all Christians believe that Jesus was the Messiah, Son of God...beyond that, there's not much that you can broadly define Christians with.

How about the Bible?

I am certain the Bible says more than that.

Not really because there is a broad spectrum of just what the Bible is, what it means, and how it is to be interpreted among Christians. Typically, you only hear about Christians who regard the Bible as the ultimate and only source for their beliefs, but they don't represent all Christians.

So your contention is that the Bible says "Jesus is the Son of God" and nothing else? The Bible is just one sentence long?

Or does the Bible say a lot more and you only believe that one sentence?

[PlatyPius 5]

One day it will finally be proven that for 2 thousand years, people based their lives - killed and died over it - on the words of an early Harlequin Romance novel written by an unemployed shepherd...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

About the only that you can say with certainty is that all Christians believe that Jesus was the Messiah, Son of God...beyond that, there's not much that you can broadly define Christians with.

How about the Bible?

I am certain the Bible says more than that.

Not really because there is a broad spectrum of just what the Bible is, what it means, and how it is to be interpreted among Christians. Typically, you only hear about Christians who regard the Bible as the ultimate and only source for their beliefs, but they don't represent all Christians.

So your contention is that the Bible says "Jesus is the Son of God" and nothing else? The Bible is just one sentence long?

Or does the Bible say a lot more and you only believe that one sentence?

There were followers of Christ before the Bible existed. The belief that Jesus was the Messiah requires no documentation, just a belief in the proclamation. The Bible does not preclude Christianity.

Edited May 28, 2008 by Jabberwocky

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Ok, so you are a pre-Biblical Christian?