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Looking at the Advanced View for K1 statistics, I am a bit curious how often a lawyer has had any influence on the process, with regard to reducing RFEs or shortening the timeline.

I understand the primary function of the lawyer is to probably sift through the paperwork and give advice, but I am wondering for those that paid $1500 or so for the services if there was a quantifiable benefit.

I am not using an immigration lawyer and I must claim ignorance to every single advantage they can provide. I also figure that K1 may not be the most applicable process where a lawyer could be leveraged.

In any case, does anyone think it is worthwhile for our wonderful site managers to add a simply checkbox to the timeline, and to the statistics display, that provides whether or not an immigration lawyer was used by the couple? If VJ newbies are about to engage in a particular process, and notice that many applicants used them, it might give them a clue to pick up the phone...


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I used a lawyer for the K-1 process and AOS. The only advantage was I did not have to fill out the paperwork.

Disadvantages Were mostly correcting all their mistakes.

Was it worth it? My wife and daughter are with me with green cards in hand. This is priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You will more then likely find that the majority didnt use a lawyer.......and some of the ones that did ended up letting them go when they messed up their cases....and some had no probs using a lawyer. One of the main reasons for this site is primarily to share info & experiences so we can do the various processes ourselves as well as it being a support network for those that share this immigration process. When situations are beyond this info and experiece it is usually the practice of members to suggest one have a consult with an immigration lawyer.

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We used a l-l-l-l-lawyer ( I still have a hard time saying that word) and it was the worst mistake ever! He sent it to the wrong service center and caused 2 RFE's. All that for $2,000.00. We were apart for 2 years while he learned about immigration. I should have directed him to VJ to learn what to do..lol.

He wanted an additional $1,500 to file AOS/EAD after Mohammed got here. We parted ways at this point and did it ourselves.

Jackie

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Hi,

We used a lawyer and it was the best thing we ever did! GO ALEX!!!!!!!!!

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K1

September 15 - 2005: NOA1

October: Waiting

November: Waiting

December: In Security checks

January 2006: Waiting

February: Waiting..Contacted Congress

March 4th: APPROVED

March 17th: NVC posted file to London

March 20th: London Receives file

March 29th: Receive package 3

April 13th: London Receives package

April 19th: Medical - June 13th: INTERVIEW......APPROVED!!!!

June 20th: ARRIVE IN USA

Time taken for whole process 9 Months

~~~~~ * ~~~~~

AOS

October: 13th: Sent off AOS Package

November 3rd: NOA1

November 14th: Snail mail ~ NOA1 ~ Case moved to the CSC for faster processing.

November 14th : CSC has petition for me and my daughter.

December 14th: Biometrics completed.

January 17th: APPROVED AOS!

January 22nd: Green card arrives in the mail:))

Time taken for AOS - 3.5 Months

Finished for 2 years.

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Sometimes using professional services gives piece of mind and can reduce some of the stress of the process. In my case, we received an RFE for something my caseworker had in her files. Had I not checked online I would not have even known about the RFE because she took care of it immediately. Then we had an issue about our marriage certificate ... as in Sweden doesnt exactly have them and that is where we got married. They use something else instead as proof of marriage. It took our caseworker some phone calls to get that explained. To be honest, if I had to do that myself, I am not even sure who I would call .. it isn't like the people you can talk to are the ones who need to understand about your case.

When choosing a lawyer or any type of professional help, make sure that they specialize in immigration. Even better if that is all they do. If a lawyer spends most of his time doing everything except immigration and only does a couple immigration cases, chances are they dont know what is going on. Non profit organizations that specialize in immigration can be really good and save money as they are not costly like an immigration lawyer.


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2005-09-23 Sent I-130.

2005-10-05 I-130 NOA1

2006-02-19 *touched*

2006-02-21 RFE

2006-03-09 RFE received by CSC

2006-03-29 I-130 NOA2

2006-03-31 *touched*

2006-04-01 *touched*

2006-04-12 NVC assigned case number

I-129F

2005-11-18 I-129F Sent

2005-11-29 I-129F NOA1

2005-12-27 I-129F RFE :(

2006-01-13 I-129F RFE Reply sent.

2006-01-25 *touched*

2006-01-26 I-129F RFE received

2006-04-04 *touched*

2006-04-04 NOA2 **approved!!!**

2006-04-20 NVC assigned case number

2006-04-21 case forwarded to embassy

2006-04-26 packet 3 received

2006-05-02 packet 3 sent

2006-05-04 packet 4 received

2006-05-15 Interview in Stockholm **APPROVED**

2006-05-23 My sweetie is coming home!!

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We are using an Immigration lawyer so I am hoping it turns out good, but as I keep reading here not necessary so good luck to you.


K-1 journey, AOS/EAD and ROC in my timeline

2011 March 31 - Sent off Naturalization pkg overnight to Texas

2011 April 1 - Arrived in Texas at 10:21 am

2011 April 1 - NOA (rec'd via snail mail April 8)

2011 April 7 - Cheque cashed

2011 May 5 - Biometrics (letter rec'd via snail mail April 15)

2011 May 9 - Placed in line for interview scheduling

2011 June 13 - Rec'd yellow letter (no change in status online)

2011 June 23 - Rec'd text that my case has been scheduled for interview

2011 August 1 - Interview (rec'd via snail mail June 27) PASSED

2011 August 3 - Rec'd email that my case has been scheduled for Oath

2011 September 1 - Oath ceremony (rec'd snail mail Aug 5)

2011 September 1 - All done, yeah.

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I see advice given here all the time suggesting that a lawyer is not needed. I also see situations here all the time where couples are delayed because they sent something to the wrong place, neglected to include something, had to take time to learn what to do next when there was a problem, etc.

I also have seen some posts where people are not satisfied with their lawyer. I'm sure there are bad lawyers out there...you just don't see posts when things are going well. Care should be taken to select a good lawyer if that's what you decide to do.

I looked at several before I made my final decision on which lawyer to use. My choice was based mainly on 2 factors. First, the firm I used has extensive experience with immigration from my wife's country and actually has an office there. Second, the firm I used employed a case worker that was a veteran immigration officer of many years.


05/16/2005 I-129F Sent

05/28/2005 I-129F NOA1

06/21/2005 I-129F NOA2

07/18/2005 Consulate Received package from NVC

11/09/2005 Medical

11/16/2005 Interview APPROVED

12/05/2005 Visa received

12/07/2005 POE Minneapolis

12/17/2005 Wedding

12/20/2005 Applied for SSN

01/14/2005 SSN received in the mail

02/03/2006 AOS sent (Did not apply for EAD or AP)

02/09/2006 NOA

02/16/2006 Case status Online

05/01/2006 Biometrics Appt.

07/12/2006 AOS Interview APPROVED

07/24/2006 GC arrived

05/02/2007 Driver's License - Passed Road Test!

05/27/2008 Lifting of Conditions sent (TSC > VSC)

06/03/2008 Check Cleared

07/08/2008 INFOPASS (I-551 stamp)

07/08/2008 Driver's License renewed

04/20/2009 Lifting of Conditions approved

04/28/2009 Card received in the mail

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Yes we chose a law firm where there was someone who had previously worked with US Immigration so they have extensive experience in this,and if not like was said there are good ones and bad ones, so praying ours will be good.


K-1 journey, AOS/EAD and ROC in my timeline

2011 March 31 - Sent off Naturalization pkg overnight to Texas

2011 April 1 - Arrived in Texas at 10:21 am

2011 April 1 - NOA (rec'd via snail mail April 8)

2011 April 7 - Cheque cashed

2011 May 5 - Biometrics (letter rec'd via snail mail April 15)

2011 May 9 - Placed in line for interview scheduling

2011 June 13 - Rec'd yellow letter (no change in status online)

2011 June 23 - Rec'd text that my case has been scheduled for interview

2011 August 1 - Interview (rec'd via snail mail June 27) PASSED

2011 August 3 - Rec'd email that my case has been scheduled for Oath

2011 September 1 - Oath ceremony (rec'd snail mail Aug 5)

2011 September 1 - All done, yeah.

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We didnt use a lawyer. However every time I used a lawyer they manage to misplace my documents. It happend twice with my divorce and now with my house sale. I wont use one unless it's absolutely necessary. It's only necessary for k1 if you have a complicated case

Good Luck

Adele


> Texas have received out application and cashed the cheque!

We got our NOA1 as at 26 Oct 2005!

Sent to CSC 26 Oct 2005

NOA2 26 Jan 2006

Sent to Embassy 9 Feb 2006

Embassy sent pk3 21 feb 2006

Recd and return pk3 27 feb

Medical 8 March

recd pk4 11 April

Interview 10 May

Visa Approved 10 May

Visa Received 13 May

Fly to Memphis 21 june

Married 1 September

AOS NOA1 23 Jan 2007

Case transferred to Missourri

Case transferred back to CSC feb 01

Card in the mail March 05

Case approved March 005

Welcome to America Letters received March 08

Filed for lifting of conditions - received in Vermont Jan 20 2009

I-797C NOA received Jan 26 2009

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The question on the table is not 'should you or shouldn't you' but "did using a lawyer affect the *timeline* in any way (plus or minus). (personally, I do not think it affects it one way or another. There is a great story Folinskyinla tells of a case he filed for two identical twin sisters. One was approved within weeks, the other took like 9 months)

OP: I think you have to define 'use a lawyer'. That could cover everything from oone free phone/internet consulatation right through thousands paid for service all the way through AOS. Most people have some variation between those 2 extremes.


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The question on the table is not 'should you or shouldn't you' but "did using a lawyer affect the *timeline* in any way (plus or minus). (personally, I do not think it affects it one way or another. There is a great story Folinskyinla tells of a case he filed for two identical twin sisters. One was approved within weeks, the other took like 9 months)

OP: I think you have to define 'use a lawyer'. That could cover everything from oone free phone/internet consulatation right through thousands paid for service all the way through AOS. Most people have some variation between those 2 extremes.

in short it looks like a tossup still - some have good lawyers and the process goes right along. others get screwed. i did consider an attorney to get nessa here fast, but from what i've seen so far - unless there is unusual circumstances regarding the recipient, the usc can do it all just as fast.


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We didn't use a lawyer either....


Sept. 27: Filed AOS, EAD and AP

Oct. 6: NOA for AOS, EADand AP received, case was moved from the DC office to MSC

Nov. 23: Biometrics and fingerprint appt.

Nov. 24: AOS and EAD touched

Dec. 3: EAD arrives in the mail!

Sept 19, 2005: E-filed EAD renewal

Sept. 20: I-485 transferred to CSC

Dec 20: RFE notice received

Feb. 13, 2006: RFE received in CSC

Feb. 23: AOS approved

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Here is for interest sake....

Have a lawyer who will be filing for us. She sent the papers to my SO today and he is to get them back to her right away she will file them next week. She says Vermont is quick and is processing at 5 weeks, and then another 8ish to interview.

Stay tuned.


K-1 journey, AOS/EAD and ROC in my timeline

2011 March 31 - Sent off Naturalization pkg overnight to Texas

2011 April 1 - Arrived in Texas at 10:21 am

2011 April 1 - NOA (rec'd via snail mail April 8)

2011 April 7 - Cheque cashed

2011 May 5 - Biometrics (letter rec'd via snail mail April 15)

2011 May 9 - Placed in line for interview scheduling

2011 June 13 - Rec'd yellow letter (no change in status online)

2011 June 23 - Rec'd text that my case has been scheduled for interview

2011 August 1 - Interview (rec'd via snail mail June 27) PASSED

2011 August 3 - Rec'd email that my case has been scheduled for Oath

2011 September 1 - Oath ceremony (rec'd snail mail Aug 5)

2011 September 1 - All done, yeah.

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