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    Mrs O. reacted to Inky in Name on passport vs. green card; travel issues?   
    Bring a copy of the marriage certificate.
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    Mrs O. reacted to romnick in NIGERIAN CHURCH   
    I am a member of the RCCG here in Atlanta,GA.The church HQ is in Nigeria so you may as well consider it,below is the address in WI:
    City Of Praise (RCCG)
    5401 North 76th Street Milwaukee, WI 53218
    (414)-465-0000
    http://www.rccg-cityofpraise.org
    God bless.
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    Mrs O. reacted to Kathryn41 in A not so normal K1 journey   
    I am sorry for your loss .
    As painful as it may be, bring with you copies of your mother's obituary and death certificate. The Consulate may ask why you postponed your interview twice so you can present the certificate and obituary as evidence for the request.
    My mother passed away the month my now husband and I became engaged. While she never had a chance to meet him, it made her happy to know that I had met someone and she felt she didn't have to 'worry' about me anymore . I'm sure your Mom was happy to know you had found that special someone in your life as well even if she didn't have the chance to meet her.
    Good luck to you both - I hope your journey is trouble-free from here on in.
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    Mrs O. reacted to dleeg in A not so normal K1 journey   
    Hi everone.......
    I just wanted to share my K1 visa journey because it hasn't been a normal one. And this is also for those who are waiting waiting waiting and putting in your time through this process. Keep the faith, have patience and know that each day is a day closer to your loved one.
    Our I-29F was recieved on 8/13/10 and it was approved on 1/5/2011. The embassy in Bogota recieved our case on 1/21/2011. We felt that it was important that I was with Francys (my fiance from Cali, Colombia) for her interview but at that time I was in a work contract until mid March. Also from reading embasssy feedback stories about beneficiaries not getting visas because the petitioner wasn't present did not settle well with us (which by the way isn't fair, if they want the petitioner to be there then require it). But I guess they need to see if the petitioner is serious. So we decided to wait to send in the DS forms until the first week of March as we were hoping for a April interview date. On 3/7/2011 we faxed the DS forms from packet 3. On 3/20 when the embassy site posted April interview dates we were not on the list. So I decided to email the embassy to ask for confirmation if they had recieved our DS forms via fax. On 3/25 I recieved an email from the embassy saying that our interview had been scheduled for 3/31. Five days notice even though we were not listed for the April dates on the embassy website! Of course we had to ask to be rescheduled as it was not enough time to plan everything, get documents together, purchase airline tickets, schedule medical, etc. Finally when May dates were released on 4/20 our case number appeared for 5/11/2011. We got everything together and arranged. I live in California and on 4/30 I had to go to Colorado (where I'm from) because my mother was suddenly ill. When I got there it was apparent the situation was not good, and to make a long story short she passed away on 5/6. Of course there was a funeral to plan and a mountain of other things to handle. We had to cancel the interview, cancel flights, cancel everything because I was in Colorado until 5/21. So now the interview is set for 6/22. It has been an interesting journey no doubt. Francys has been my rock through everything and continues to be my biggest supporter though she is so far. We have become closer and more in love through all these setbacks. We have both been patient knowing our day will come. The crazy thing is that this has been the saddest time of my life losing my mother. We were very close, talked everyday and we had a great relationship. And on the other side it has been the happiest time of my life because of Francys. It has been difficult to find a middle ground. I am looking forward to my trip to Colombia and I hope to report good news soon!
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    Mrs O. reacted to Helen Louise Pile in I need some help: Driving in the US with your UK driving license   
    Hello! Idon'tknow whether you will be notified of this.I just wanted to say thank you. I hadmy 'hearing' in traffic court today to contest my ticket and the ruling was in my favour.
    Helen
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    Mrs O. reacted to Paloma&Adam in Question about I-864A   
    How many people are immigrating? If it just one person then you enter the number 1 in both those boxes (parts 13 and 15) and enter the immigrant's name and date of birth in the table in part 13.
    The sponsor (the person who filed the I-130 on immigrants behalf) puts the name in the box preceded by "I, the sponsor..." and signs part 13.
    The joint sponsor puts their name in the box in part 15 and also signs.
    I promise you this is correct, this is what I did on the I-864A and I had no issues getting an approval. Good Luck!
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    Mrs O. reacted to MAO36 in Sharing some red flags   
    HELLO ! VJ FAMILY!!
    Just checking in...... No drama to report! I just wanted to let you all know that things are being repaired with delicacy and this is no overnight quick fix. There are a lot of emotions, much needed communication, tender compassion and love being shown towards one another. But for the most part, we both want to make it work and are really trying to understand what went wrong so that it never happens again.
    Take Care!
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    Mrs O. reacted to Que Saudade in One year since applying for AOS   
    Sorry you are going through this. I can not imagine how frustrating this is for you.
    Sounds like you are doing all you can. I just want to point out that sending the letters to the places you mentioned will not do any good. Talk about dust collecting. It is not the business of the Attorney General, The FBI, nor the White House to deal with such matters. It will be filed in cabinet 13. Use your energy more constructively. Maybe the case is not as "straightforward" as it appears. Unfortunately, there is not a "watch dog" group that keeps up with the USCIS. They are fairly well self governed and protected.
    However, do look on the bright side and realize you are together. There are many people who are apart and going through the strains of time waiting for responses, approvals, etc...... You get to sleep with your husband at night.
    Good Luck and best wishes
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    Mrs O. reacted to Bocajr27 in I-212 and my Wife Saga...   
    My friend I know how you feel. Some of the people that work at USCIS don’t bother with taking that extra step that is sometimes necessary to get the job done. I went through a similar problem but had a much better result. I filed the I-212 for my wife and got our receipt. I waited 30 days before I made an Info pass to check on the status. When I went in for my Info pass, I requested an expedite due to our son’s health condition. Three days afterwards, I received a letter from USCIS stating that I should have filed this with the US Consulate in Colombia. Funny thing was that the consulate was the one who told me to file it at USCIS.
    So I gathered all of our paperwork including some legal findings that I thought would help. I had to speak to three different supervisors before I was able to speak to an officer. One of those supervisors brought my wife’s file out and said, “Your wife is not eligible for the I-212 because she overstayed.” “No” I said, “According to section 9 (B) (iii) (II) it clearly states that No period of time in which an alien has a bona fide application for asylum pending shall be taken into account in determining the period of unlawful presence in the US.” So he proceeds to tell me that my wife should have left before her Asylum hearing. To which I replied, “If she would have left before her immigration proceeding, she would have broken the law.” He just kept shuffling through his papers and then said “Well then she should have left immediately afterwards.” “Wrong again” I said. “If you look at the Judges decree you can see that he gave us 30 days to either appeal his decision or leave. You can also see by the forms that the US Embassy sent you that my wife arrived in Colombia prior to the date the judge gave us.“ By this time, this supervisor had basically given up.
    Luckily, two of the supervisors I spoke with really went out of their way to help me. One of them, after hearing my argument and agreeing with me full heartedly, went directly to the officer that sent me the letter of denial and asked her to speak with me. I didn’t even have to say one word. Fifteen minutes later I left that office with the I-212 approval. I will never forget that day. My wife and I cried on the phone together for a while. It was hard, but thanks to some people who went that extra mile, we are back in the states together as a family. my thoughts to you is not to give up. Keep going back and ask to speak to the officer that is handling your case. You are the petitioner and YOU have the right, especially if someone has made a mistake.
    I wish you the best of luck in getting your wife back to the states soon.
    Fernando
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    Mrs O. reacted to Casprd in Hemorrhoid cause medical failure?   
    They are mainly looking for communicable diseases or issues that may present harm to yourself or others (i.e. uncontrolled mental illness). If hemmoroids were a reason to fail you, my bosses would have been deported long ago cause God knows what PITA's they are to me sometimes.
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    Mrs O. reacted to patient2010 in California Driver License written test   
    every state is different I suggest you look up the requirements for the state you will be living. My husband was able to do it before he got his green card but it would have expired when the I94 expires which is the 90 day mark so we just waitied until he got his greencard. good luck to oyu Just noticed your coming in on IR1/CR1 so it may be different for you my husband came in on a K1
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    Mrs O. reacted to C Med in NVC Inquiry   
    Hi all! I am ecstatic to finally be able to post here! We received our NOA2 from Vermont today and although I am so happy that I can barely think straight, the logical part of my brain is trying to focus on the next step. So, I know that the petition should now be sent to NVC. Does anyone know how long I should wait before calling them to confirm that our petition was received? 1 week? Does anyone have the phone number? Thank you Visa Journey family!!
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    Mrs O. reacted to reeses16 in Sharing some red flags   
    MAO, thank you very much for starting this thread. I am so happy to hear that you and your hubby are trying to make things work. I think you, Dee, Sam, and many of the others that have posted gave good solid advice. Thank you all for sharing these very personal stories....and for writing those looooong posts! : ) I'm sure you all could have been doing something else, spending time with your family, etc. - your words were priceless.
    I've been raised to believe that if someone cheats on you, you leave them. I guess thats fine if you dating...but I could never reconcile that with marriage and "'till death do us part". I used to think that people stay with a person who was unfaithful because of weakness- they're afraid they won't find anyone else. But I think this thread has really shown me that staying can be a mark of strength, commitment, and unconditional love.
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    Mrs O. reacted to JimVaPhuong in Panic! Certified Copy of Divorce Decree   
    North Carolina is not California. Each state has it's system for managing marriage and divorce records. I live in California, and if I went to the courthouse where my divorce was granted and asked for a judge (or three) to sign my divorce decree to "certify" it then he would either laugh at me or look at me like I was from Mars. However, what you say may very well be possible, and may even be the correct process in North Carolina - I don't know because I don't live there.
    In most California counties, the only judge who signs a divorce decree is the one who grants the divorce, and they only sign it at the time the divorce is granted. That original document goes into the court's records, and a copy of it is sent to the California Department of Public Health, Vital Records division. The custodian of that original signed document is the court clerk. A certified copy is a copy produced by the court clerk from the original copy, and stamped and signed by the court clerk as being an authentic copy of the original.
    In California you can also ask for a Certificate of Record from the California Department of Public Health. However, that's not a certified copy of the divorce decree. They can't produce a certified copy because they don't have the original document.
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    Mrs O. reacted to Póg mo in I GET THE i-130 approved!! What do i do??? HELP   
    What Happens After You Mail the I-130 Out?
    A few weeks after you have sent your petition to the USCIS you will receive a Notice of Action (aka NOA) letter indicating that they have begun processing your I-130 application. You can check the status of your application as well as other processing time information here.
    When your I-130 petition is finally approved, the service center that processed your petition, will send you another Notice of Action letter indicating your approval, and the forwarding of your approved petition to the National Visa Processing Center in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, along with a phone number to contact the NVC with. Your case will now only be dealt with by the NVC. The service center that you filed with, will have no more knowledge on the status of your petition or case.
    A few weeks after you have received your last Notice of Action indicating the approval and forwarding of your I-130 application to the NVC, the NVC will send your relative a packet of forms that you and your relative must fill out before your relative can be given an interview date with a consulate abroad. The packet will likely contain an Of-169 form, and an Of-230 part one and two forms that must be filled out by the intending immigrant. An I-864 form is also included that must be filled out by the petitioner (living in the US). The I-864 is the Affidavit of Support form that requires copies of the petitioners past 3 U.S tax returns (or tax transcripts which are free from the IRS) as well as any bank or financial records available (see the I-864 for exact requirements based on your case). The petitioner must make at least 125% above the U.S federal poverty to indicate to the U.S government that the intending immigrant will not become a federal charge to the government when he/she arrives in the U.S.. If the petitioner cannot meet these requirements, then he/she must still file an I-864, and find a joint sponsor who can meet the requirements on his/her own. When a joint sponsor is needed ,proof of their U.S citizenship or permanent residency is required. (i.e. copy of birth certificate, immigration status etc). The joint sponsor must be residing in the U.S, and he/she must also submit his/her past 3 years U.S tax returns along with bank or any other financial records available. The joint sponsor must submit his/her own I-864 form to accompany the petitioner's I-864 form.
    Forms that may be either sent back (or requested to be gathered and kept for the interview) to the NVC or the consulate abroad (depending upon which consulate you are going through) before an interview date with a consulate abroad can be scheduled are as follows:
    Step by step guide.
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    Mrs O. reacted to NigeriaorBust in parents with young siblings   
    Each person needs a separate petition and fees. Mom and dad take about a year and siblings take 10 years or more. Parent can petition children under 21 . The fastest route is petition parent , let parent petition siblings. One parent can come first then petition children while the other stays behind to care for them
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    Mrs O. reacted to Penguin_ie in Visa medical   
    It's mostly a general physical (like you may have had pre-employment), so they will check blood pressure, listen to heart and lungs, palpitate stomach, and talk to you about your medical history and any psychological and drug issues. But they will also draw blood for STDs and you'll have an x-ray to check for TB.
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    Mrs O. reacted to S_R in Sharing some red flags   
    Initially, most people approach the topic of lying and infidelity somewhat reluctantly - driven by their curiosity or by a recent, unexpected discovery.
    For better or for worse, our romantic relationships are not always as straightforward as we would like them to be. From time to time, our intimate relationships can become complicated and complex - full of contradictions and inconsistencies.
    When it comes to love and marriage, people expect a spouse to be completely honest. But, at the same time, everyone values their sense of freedom and privacy. So while romantic partners typically want to please each other, at other times, couples experience competing goals which can make telling the truth more difficult.
    As it stands, our close relationships involve a lot of truth telling as well as some dishonesty.
    If love was straightforward and unchanging, that would be easy to acknowledge. But, when you take a close look at the nature of love and romance, one thing becomes clear: Love creates both happiness and heartache, opportunities and constraints, joy and sorrow.
    For the most part, spouses are considerate, honest and kind .
    But at the same time, husbands and wives, boyfriends and girlfriends, betray those they love. Unfortunately, deception comes in handy when people want to limit their partner's choices, avoid conflict or punishment, or when people want to influence their partner's behavior.
    One might think that men ought to be capable of reason and reflection in regard to their actions. However, that's not exactly how it works. The more highly evolved a species, the more elaborate are its secondary sexual characteristics. The primal urge of men is something that can be observed in nature among countless other species. The need to procreate is a priority second only to the procuring of a food supply.
    Cheating is not an expression of love, nor a way to save your relationship. People cheat when they want to avoid tough decisions, when they aren’t up for the hard work required of a long-term romantic relationship, or are unable to break things off mercifully. They’re completely disregarding the fact that when you cheat, you’re breaching an agreement, specifically that one involving “’til death do you part.”
    That said, the cheater may not be the only one at fault.
    I know, I know, you should never punish the victim. But a relationship is a two-way street.
    The truth, however, is not likely to be popular.Men who commit adultery generally fall into one of the following three categories: The Narcissist, Situational Adulterers, or Neglected Husbands.
    If you’ve been cheated on, there were likely some relationship red flags you ignored that could have prevented this ordeal. The lack of sex issue is a perfect example.
    Many cheaters let their partners know that they long for more than the missionary position, that they want to have oral sex, that they want to try mummification the next time you play naughty nurse (lol) ... They’ve begged and pleaded for more sexual and emotional intimacy. You may vaguely recall that your response likely involved any of the following:
    — Defensiveness: “Am I no more than an object to you?” When you’re stone cold, well then yes.
    — A lack of sympathy: “That’s your problem, babe, not mine.” Guess what? When you commit, your problems are our problems.
    — Justification: “We have kids. We’re supposed to be sexless.” Parenthood does not have to be passionless.
    — Being dismissive: “You know I retired from adventure sex years ago. Isn’t that why we just bought you that brand new PC with gaming hardware?” If this were customer relations, then you just dropped the ball on maintaining product loyalty. Even the most faithful of consumers will switch brands when a company fails to recognize their needs.
    Major character flaws aside, is it any wonder that a cheater is angry, frustrated, desperate, and vulnerable to any home-wrecker hyena ready to scandalously scavenge your union with sexual antics? You’re committing emotional abuse in depriving your partner of sexual intimacy. If you’re not willing to put some effort into your relationship, there are thousands of people, found with a few clicks of the mouse, who will.
    While I just used a sexless union as an example of why a partner may commit adultery, realize that sex is usually not the purpose of an affair.
    As stated in Frank Pittman’s "Private Lies: Infidelity and the Betrayal of Intimacy," many cheaters admit that sex is better at home. Affairs are emotionally complex, with a cheater seeking far more than sexual gratification in cozying up with another. Furthermore, it’s not the sex, per se, that will destroy a union, but the lies, secrecy, confusion and disorientation couples must grapple with.
    In general, the main reason men cheat on their partners is purely due to their hunger for sex. Men regularly need to find new sources of sexual satisfaction. Their ability to exercise self control is lessened in two major ways. First, a previous instances of cheating makes future cheating more likely. In other words, once a man has set precident with himself to cheat on a loved one, he MAY more readily do it again in the future. Second, a lack of ATTRACTION towards their partner is also a major contributor towards infidelity. As novelty wears off over time, they could cheat.
    Another noteworthy reason for unfaithfulness stems from constant NAGGING. In this case, the man cheats in order to take revenge on his nagging partner or to soothe his own ego. Think of this as kind of a backdoor method of regaining "alpha" status in the relationship.
    Due to the immense hurt endured, it is clear that a victim of infidelity would not appreciate merely a polite expression of any kind, but this is possibly tempered by the notion that it is possible for a man who can behave so abominably, to not only feel a sense of loss, but to acknowledge the senseless damage inflicted on his victim partner.
    We live in a world that seems to have adopted what some call the “capitalist model of marriage”; everybody expects a return on their investment. Marriage is supposed to be about giving, not getting, but we’ll save sacramental theology for another day and just deal now with the problem in front of us. Men, rightly or wrongly, expect sexual gratification in their marriages. If sex is withheld or greatly reduced in either QUALITY or QUANTITY, they will eventually say to themselves something like “I’m entitled to sex, and if I can’t get it at home I’ll get it somewhere else.”
    Ladies, not to put too fine a point on it, but if you’re not having sex with your husband somebody else probably is.
    There are two possible solutions here:
    Both husband and wife come to accept that the underlying causes of sexual dysfunction in the marriage need to be addressed, starting with an acknowledgment that marriage is not a transaction – it’s the combination of two human beings into a new person that cannot realize its full potential until each gives themselves TOTALLY to the other person. Their love then grows in new and special ways they could not have possibly imagined when they first fell in love. Crosses, whatever they may be, are carried together.
    The wife starts having more sex with her husband.
    The second flows from the first, by the way, but it also works as a quick fix. I’ll leave it to you to decide what works for you.
    @MAO :Were there a few times in the beginning when during talks about the affair,your hubby would get defensive about his actions...or when the old rationalizations and justifications would creep in. You know "I know it was wrong, BUT I didn't think you loved me any more."
    He has to learn very quickly that qualifying "but" in the sentence will not get you guys anywhere. He must learn that a real apology isn't followed by "but you....".
    Now, you have to discuss what he is feeling and where his head is regarding your marriage. Those are the real issues and problems....You have had your own set of issues that have to be dealt with. But you both must learn that the discussions about what went on in the "affair'' have to be separated as much as possible from the discussions about the marriage. Yes, the condition of the marriage had an impact on the affair, but they need to be addressed with or without the affair. Tying too closely together only keeps the wounded spouse in an angry state.
    He must answer the questions even when the question hurt him or you. His willingness to be honest even when it hurts, will be a big part of rebuilding trust.
    You must always try to be careful and think through what you want to know because many times you will ask the same questions in just slightly different ways. My caution to those asking the questions and those answering to think through what you want to know. Specific details are important to recovery, in my opinion. These would be dates, times, etc.....be careful on asking for the sexual details though and prepare yourself for those answers. The questions that get us all into trouble are the subjective ones....what were you thinking when you...how did you feel when you....etc. The emotions and thought processes of a person having an affair are not rational and memories of thoughts and emotions get faded and confused over time.
    And one of the biggest frustrations for both parties will tend to be the "I don't know" answer. You will have to learn that he truly might not know or remember some things. As you process through it all, you may realize later that this was actually a positive in the long run.
    Bottomline: A successful relationship is one where TWO FORGIVERS AGREE to live together.
    I'm hungry & i need to go eat some Edikaikong soup with pounded yam if you know what the hell that is...(only found in 3rd world countries)lol.
    Some humor only for naija peeps:
    A Nigerian girl delivered a baby boy for a Chinese man,
    The baby boy died after one month,
    The naija babe's aunt was mad and said,
    I knew it! I knew it! Chinese product no dey last!!!
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    Mrs O. reacted to TBoneTX in homesick blues   
    The first trimester of pregnancy = mental illness, or the equivalent. The most sane thing around here was (15 minutes before the supermarket closed) "I want mangoes -- very hard, and very green!" Ride it out till the fourth month, si man.
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    Mrs O. reacted to rlogan in homesick blues   
    We figured out my wife was pregnant because she started behaving irrationally. She was saying insane stuff like she didn't deserve me so she was going to go home, you know - to do me the favor of unburdening my life of her.
    You are dealing with two things at the same time - pregnancy and the distance from home. One thing as men we have to accept is that there are times when our wives are going to act really crazy and we just have to be supporting and loving through it all. What I have done is to always validate her feelings. Feelings are facts. So you try to be supportive and understanding instead of trying to disagree with the feelings. You can't go off on them in a rant about how you've invested all this time and money and energy in the marriage and here she is throwing it all away. You just have to say "of course you feel like this. It is natural. It is normal. There is nothing wrong with you..."
    I'm a lot older than my wife so I didn't have that teenage testosterone response to it. They really appreciate a level-headed guy who is going to act as a steady anchor.
    Wanting to stay inside the apartment is a classic depression symptom. Both pregnancy and the move will do that, but there is also possibility of things going on in the relationship too, so it is best to really communicate as openly and honestly as you can about everything. Convince her it is a team effort and you both have to work together to overcome whatever it is. It's a real bad idea to keep negative feelings to yourself. I tell my wife to always let me know when she has any negative feelings. I can always tell when something is up, and it always makes her feel better just to say whatever it is.
    Best of luck to both of you.
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    Mrs O. reacted to Yellowhead in CA Drivers License   
    I actually did NOT surrender my Canadian drivers license. I still have it, however I was told by many other seemingly intelligent posters on VisaJourney that my Canadian license is only valid for 10 days upon arriving in California with the intent of becoming a LPR. The police see LPR status, and simply living here as the same thing when it comes to ticketing a driver who continues to use their foreign license while living in California with the intention to stay, or with a pending AOS application. All they need to do is ask for my passport and they will see my I-94, Visa, and entry stamp to prove this 10 day timeframe has run out. The AOS application also proves the intent to stay, therefore nullifying my Canadian license. Although this isn't necessarily readily available to them, my passport shows the intent to file AOS. If I got caught driving on the Canadian license, it would be a misdemeanor, and would result in my AOS case being denied. So, I didn't do something stupid, I did was what was legally required of me so I don't screw up this lengthy process. I still have my license for when I return to Canada, so no need to reapply.
    If anyone knows of any constructive way of getting around this, let me know.
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    Mrs O. reacted to vancedan in Additional Processing   
    Well, I can now answer my own question and perhaps help those others who see the same thing. The operator clearly (and I even called a second time just out of curiosity on confirmation) Additional processing is basically throwing it into a packet and getting everything bundled. 100% go through "additional rpocessing" at NVC. Administrative Processing IS a second check according to both times I called. One didn't comment on it and the other said those that go through Administrative Processing on this level for K1 are either random or in certain circumstances, something may have been flagged going through the computers.
    Anyways, our case arrived at NVC 11 May, left 13 MAY, the same day I posted this, and according to DHL should be there tomorrow. Fianceé is planning to send an email shortly (as Lima if I am not mistaken seems to be low level) to be sure the interview is not a week or two earlier than when I had planned to arrive for my summer vacation. (God willing, and prayers if your religious, that that job will be still there when I return and that she will join me).
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    Mrs O. reacted to aoifemc in Dublin or Cork??!   
    Thanks everyone. We can fly from Cork to Heathrow to Phoenix and leave our baggage on the whole way. Its really cheap too. Its not direct but I'm not pushed about that! Getting to Dublin for a direct flight would be more stress than taking a flight from Cork to Heathrow!!
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    Mrs O. reacted to Max1gk in first thing that you gona do with your wife when she here in the us   
    she's coming here again in Italy at the end of the month and if I have to tell you the first things we're gonna do,I'm afraid I might get kicked out of this forum LOL
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    Mrs O. reacted to Adi&Pim in first thing that you gona do with your wife when she here in the us   
    I cannot write about the 1st thing but the 2nd thing will be to put down the suitcase
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