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From what I've been told by the department that issues driver's licenses in Michigan (Secretary of State) no, you have to apply for a Michigan driver's license before being able to legally drive. This does vary from state to state however. (I live in Michigan and my fiance and I have been looking into this as well) Anyway, they have a booklet that you'll read and study, a test will be administered and if passed, you'll be issued your new Michigan driver's license!

Fav post on VJ thus far (and sadly oh so true). :-)

The NVC is not in a hurry.. and.. afraid of snow apparently.
In frigging New Hampshire
*the more you know*

That's crazy. Welcome to Texas, I guess. There is a reason I stay far, far away from that place.

If he lacks a pen, does he perhaps have a pin, with which he can stick himself? Signing the documents in blood might impress USCIS and the embassy.
When he goes to FedEx, he can look for a photocopy machine and take a sheet of paper from the paper drawer, or he can look in the trash can for a discarded sheet that's clean on one side. This is what we often do here in the Colonies.
Seriously, the advice given earlier has obviously been pretty good.

This. I'd be leery of a man who demanded I get rid of my cat. When you adopt an animal and they become your companions, they're family. He knows cats don't live forever, right? He and your marriage is surely going to outlive the cat. Then you can agree to no more pets.
I feel so sad for the cat Animal lover here too, it breaks my heart. They have so much unconditional love to give and my cat's been with me comforting me through anything that happens.
Maybe I'm not understanding the culture, but he sounds incredibly demanding and controlling already.
Personally I'd get rid of the man and tell people the cat was allergic.

I wouldn't be so sad, upset and frustrated if there was another department that offered the same help. However, there just isn't one so I am not sure what to do now.....aside from wait, wait, wait indefinitely. The Haiti embassy's inquiry line is useless & a complete waste of $$ (I have to pay $12 USD for 5 calls). NVC has no (or provides no) info once case is sent to the embassy. And now DOS will not take our calls? Awesome. Thanks U.S. Govmt. Making immigration harder and more frustrating at every turn for those of us who follow the rules :-(.
<<sigh>> Praying for a miracle.

Cats and dogs are members of the family. Unless there is a severe allergy, etc. KEEP THE CAT, period! I agree completely with others - marriage is compromise, not a dictatorship. The worst thing you can do in my humble opinion is continue to put yourself second in hopes he doesn't return to Jamaica because you stand your ground on something. You both need equal ground in order to have a true partnership. ((and I am SO ROOTING FOR THE POOR CAT!!)) ;-) **Obvious animal lover here.** He absolutely has given up a lot to move to the states and be with you and I know without question I will be the same with wanting my fiance to feel comfortable and at home. But no way in hell would I be parting with my dog... nooooooo way. And he knows this and would never think of asking me to. Compromise. Respect. Love. Patience. Partnership. THAT should be the focus.
Best of luck and hopefully he'll aclimate a bit more and feel more comfortable in his surroundings. If he would leave you over a cat, wasn't love to begin with sadly.

Called the DOS this morning (as I have been once per week since our interview) and was advised that as of yesterday, they are NO LONGER TAKING CALLS CONCERNING K-1 FIANCE VISAS. Although they are technically a non-immigrant visa, the National Visa Center (NVC) is now responsible for addressing these inquiries. They would not even look into our case today. I advised that I called last week and was told to call once per week. They said yes, that was correct but it changed as of Monday January 27, 2014. <<insert sad face here>> SooOoooOoo frustrated! They were the BEST at helping find out what was happening with our case.
Last week I was able to find out what the status was, when things were being worked on, etc. Today? NVC states they have no information on our case after it leaves the NVC. I have to call the embassy.... who knows nothing. Beyond frustrated now.
**side note: Yes, I did call back and spoke with a different rep just to make sure the first one was not mistaken.

Called the DOS this morning (as I have been once per week since our interview) and was advised that as of yesterday, they are NO LONGER TAKING CALLS CONCERNING K-1 FIANCE VISAS. Although they are technically a non-immigrant visa, the National Visa Center (NVC) is now responsible for addressing these inquiries. They would not even look into our case today. I advised that I called last week and was told to call once per week. They said yes, that was correct but it changed as of Monday January 27, 2014. <<insert sad face here>> SooOoooOoo frustrated! They were the BEST at helping find out what was happening with our case.
Last week I was able to find out what the status was, when things were being worked on, etc. Today? NVC states they have no information on our case after it leaves the NVC. I have to call the embassy.... who knows nothing. Beyond frustrated now.
**side note: Yes, I did call back and spoke with a different rep just to make sure the first one was not mistaken.

I agree with Corey. Better safe than sorry. We did include a police report with our Packet 3 even though he had no criminal record--we figured, how would they know for sure if we didn't include it.. Which is the exact same thing the clerk at HM told us when we dropped off the package. The police report is not expensive, about 27HTG (prices may be different now but not by much)--I say turn it in with it now and save yourself a delay of a month+ (if they request the report) versus a one week delay in turning in the packet.
Good luck!

We were approved within 41 days if memory serves me. However, the wait post NOA2 has now exceeded 4-months....We rec'd our NOA2 on Sept 20 and finally had interview on Jan 15, 2014 and should FINALLY have a decision in the next week. <<fingers crossed>> Our big delay was in the NVC receiving our approval (over 1-month) and then with the embassy acknowledging the receipt and sending packet 3 (another month+ ) Hopefully it will go much faster for you post NOA2.

Cats and dogs are members of the family. Unless there is a severe allergy, etc. KEEP THE CAT, period! I agree completely with others - marriage is compromise, not a dictatorship. The worst thing you can do in my humble opinion is continue to put yourself second in hopes he doesn't return to Jamaica because you stand your ground on something. You both need equal ground in order to have a true partnership. ((and I am SO ROOTING FOR THE POOR CAT!!)) ;-) **Obvious animal lover here.** He absolutely has given up a lot to move to the states and be with you and I know without question I will be the same with wanting my fiance to feel comfortable and at home. But no way in hell would I be parting with my dog... nooooooo way. And he knows this and would never think of asking me to. Compromise. Respect. Love. Patience. Partnership. THAT should be the focus.
Best of luck and hopefully he'll aclimate a bit more and feel more comfortable in his surroundings. If he would leave you over a cat, wasn't love to begin with sadly.

You really need to talk to others who have gone before you. Not to sound harsh, but your understanding of immigration and visas through Morocco, or any other country for that matter, is naive. It isn't just meeting in order to be approved, especially through morocco, you have to prove an ongoing, bonafide relationship, chatting online for a few months and only one meeting to appease the consulate just isn't going to fly. And financially you will invest a few thousand in the process just in fees and other incidentals, not including traveling costs. And what about the affidavit of support? You are a struggling single mother, whose children are at risk of being taken away for good if you travel to meet him. As a mother myself, it is appalling that you would risk the custody of your kids for some guy you barely know who lives 7 thousand miles away. You say you will go " if you have to". Why would you? Why? I would die before I put some man I don't know over my children. Do you know anything about his culture and religion? Does his family really approve? There are so many red flags in your case and you really need to do some studying about getting a visa through morocco and talk to other women who have gone through his consulate.

Sounds like you need to prioritise your children and meanwhile he can apply for a visitor visa.
The good news is that there is no restriction of how many times you can apply or how frequently, so if he at first does not succeed, try try again.

A simple answer is "yes", any US Citizen can petition for K1 visa infinite number of times,
but just realize that a right to submit petition is completely different from getting the visa approved.
But by playing with (illegal) fire the first time, you are now spewing very visible smoke
and someone will notice it, and I think both you and the original petitioner likely have
seriously lowered your chances at getting future K1 visas approved.
Just realize that its people like you that try to cheat their way into US
is what is causing so much scrutiny and delay in processing time to legitimate couples.
I have my doubts, but hopefully you are cleaning up and this new petition is real.

So, just out of curiosity, what are your suggestions to improve the system? Basis for the lawsuit? etc. As with most anything in life, systems and processes need to change to keep their relevancy and, in this instance, keep processes moving forward effectively, efficiently, and with the utmost scrutiny. All too often on this site I am reading post after post of fellow VJ'ers that fell head over heals in love, filed for either their fiance or spouse to come to the US and the moment they've entered and received their green card, they're GONE. Unfortunately, the immigrant had other intentions rather than staying with the petitioner. These are the lesser of two evil beneficiary filers. The other were referenced previously. And don't even get me started on the group of beneficiaries that take courses on how to accuse their petitioner of spousal abuse after arrival as a means to secure their green card.... If you're looking for something/one to file a lawsuit against, file it against people like those who abuse this system and ultimately are the TRUE CAUSE OF SUCH DELAYS AND THEREFORE WARRANTING THE NEED FOR SUCH SCRUTINY OF IMMIGRATION CASES.
As an alternative to that suggestion, maybe the solution lies in growing and training the workforce that is dealing with the ever-growing caseloads. However, what does that entail? More $$ from the federal government, and therefore, more $$ from taxpayers. I bet far more people support less taxes than an increase to help those of us who've fallen in love with a foreigner to expedite the process to allow them entry sooner. Is this difficult? Absolutely. Are there days I want to yell, cry, relieve my frustrations on someone? Damn right I do (ah-hem...today) But blaming my government for the time they spend to vet incoming soon-to-be green-card holders and even citizens and trying to rally the troops to file a lawsuit? Seems a bit frivolous.
Although I am currently in the midst of the process for the faster fiance visa (still don't understand why that is faster, however) I fully understood the process when we decided to take this route, fully expected the endless waiting, fully expected to expose my entire life to the government and then some and hence, fully committed to not only completing the process but committed to my fiance that no matter what, we will not quit. We will make it through this and if push comes to shove and he is not granted entry, I will go be with him. Period.
Just my 2-cents.

I will post this here as well.... Since it appears you are on quite a posting frenzy today ((reference class action post here))
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So, just out of curiosity, what are your suggestions to improve the system? Basis for the lawsuit? etc. As with most anything in life, systems and processes need to change to keep their relevancy and, in this instance, keep processes moving forward effectively, efficiently, and with the utmost scrutiny. All too often on this site I am reading post after post of fellow VJ'ers that fell head over heals in love, filed for either their fiance or spouse to come to the US and the moment they've entered and received their green card, they're GONE. Unfortunately, the immigrant had other intentions rather than staying with the petitioner. These are the lesser of two evil beneficiary filers. The other were referenced previously. And don't even get me started on the group of beneficiaries that take courses on how to accuse their petitioner of spousal abuse after arrival as a means to secure their green card.... If you're looking for something/one to file a lawsuit against, file it against people like those who abuse this system and ultimately are the TRUE CAUSE OF SUCH DELAYS AND THEREFORE WARRANTING THE NEED FOR SUCH SCRUTINY OF IMMIGRATION CASES.
As an alternative to that suggestion, maybe the solution lies in growing and training the workforce that is dealing with the ever-growing caseloads. However, what does that entail? More $$ from the federal government, and therefore, more $$ from taxpayers. I bet far more people support less taxes than an increase to help those of us who've fallen in love with a foreigner to expedite the process to allow them entry sooner. Is this difficult? Absolutely. Are there days I want to yell, cry, relieve my frustrations on someone? Damn right I do (ah-hem...today) But blaming my government for the time they spend to vet incoming soon-to-be green-card holders and even citizens and trying to rally the troops to file a lawsuit? Seems a bit frivolous.
Although I am currently in the midst of the process for the faster fiance visa (still don't understand why that is faster, however) I fully understood the process when we decided to take this route, fully expected the endless waiting, fully expected to expose my entire life to the government and then some and hence, fully committed to not only completing the process but committed to my fiance that no matter what, we will not quit. We will make it through this and if push comes to shove and he is not granted entry, I will go be with him. Period.

Hahahaaa!! Love it! Most excellent suggestion I've heard all day!! ;-)

NOA2 thru CSC dated September 20th and still.......nothing.
Summary of today's phone calls:
Called DOS today and was told case was at NVC as well but case # has not yet been issued. ((YAY!!)) Called NVC and was told case was not there yet and no case #. ((BOOOO!!!)) Called USCIS and was told case should ship to NVC within 30 days and to call back after 30 days to track case. ((W.T.H))?!? ha haaaa Every day......something different is told. Frustrating to say the least. And to think we were actually getting our hopes up of arriving before Christmas. <<insert sad face here>> Oh well, good news is that we are closer than ever before to being together. Just trying to stay focused on that to keep from going NuTz!
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UPDATE:
Per timelines, there are now 4 CSC filers w/ Sept NOA2 dates that now have been rec'd by NVC and have case #!!! ((Sept 5th NOA2's currently))

First and foremost, congrats to the two of you! FIling is no different for either same sex or opposite sex relationships now (about time!) Just need to make sure you marry in a state that recognizes the marriage and I'm puuuurdy sure we know that California does so double yay!! Best of luck and here's to a happy and wonderful future ahead!

First and foremost, congrats to the two of you! FIling is no different for either same sex or opposite sex relationships now (about time!) Just need to make sure you marry in a state that recognizes the marriage and I'm puuuurdy sure we know that California does so double yay!! Best of luck and here's to a happy and wonderful future ahead!