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What a bunch of hoops to be with someone you love..

 

Okay I'll try to give as much information as possible and hopefully in a structured format.

 

Me: 31 year old guy living and working in the Netherlands (IT). Divorced a few years ago, no kids, nothing special (medical, criminal, etc).

She: 31 year old from the USA. Currently finalizing a divorce (domestic violence, but trying uncontested divorce to minimize impact on kids). Has 3 kids (2, 8, 10) of which at least one has special needs. Has some medical complications. She's currently searching for a house safely away from her 'ex', and looking for work there as her contract ends on January 1st.

 

She's been in a way of separation for years, but nothing official. Has had a protective order against him for a year somewhere along the way. Some more details in that whole thing, but I doubt its useful for this case.

 

We met online end of spring this year. First time, and our 'official' date is in July this year. I have visited two more times after, visiting for longer periods. Since the divorce is finally going through we are looking at our path to our future. At first the Netherlands was on the table, but given that he would still want to see his kids, we are opting for the USA to minimize the general impact on the kids. Originally I wanted to go for H1B, but with recent changes that looks less likely. So from what we have read we see two options.

 

1. CR1 - Either a marriage abroad or the Utah-online marriage.

2. K1 - Coming over with the intend to marry.

 

From what I saw about the current times, they both are freaking long, which  already causes some issues.

 

The thing we are planning right now:

She moves away from him safely, currently looking at Charleston (SC) as she has family there. Which is expensive. Hopefully she has found someone willing to work with her (as her credit due to the relation is bad and on paper it doesn't look good) but sadly we aren't in the clear yet. Then she's also applying for jobs there, some interviews and some follow up interviews, nothing guaranteed yet.

 

Given she could get the place she has been talking to our situation would be that I support her financially. I can crash on someone's couch, yes I know it might become a long one, and support plenty for at least the rent. She will get some more things in place and there should be child support. Things by our calculations should be fine, with money to put aside for emergencies, visa filings, my visits, etc.. But the situation is far from ideal. Either day care is going to take a big chunk of the money she makes, or she'd have to work less or find a work-from-home job due to the kids age and time they would be at home.

 

Ideally I would move to the states, be there for household and working from the states paying taxes there instead of in the Netherlands.

 

Our question is, would the CR1 be better or do you think the K1 would be faster. It's difficult to get accurate time frames on both of them. With that we could see what would be more feasible (me not being able to work, but she working more and me being allowed in the USA for helping in the household so no day care is needed vs me working longer from the Netherlands but spending more money on daycare etc.) so we can make the right decision.

 

Also looking for recommendations when it comes to visits during both their waiting times. I have my ESTA which should be fine for visiting friends and family. I would still work in the Netherlands so need to go back, also for my dentist appointments etc. But does that just mean only short visits? Any visits as long as you can proof you have a return ticket and for example these appointments planned? How does that work.

 

 

I wish things were easier. But us battling through all of this does make me look positively at anything being thrown at us later down the road.

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Welcome to the forum!

 

See the comparison between the visa types, as compiled by our fine member Crazy Cat:
K-1 
  More expensive than CR-1
  Requires Adjustment of Status after marriage (expensive and requires a lot of paperwork)
  Spouse cannot leave the US until she/he receives approved Advance Parole (up to 9 months)
  Spouse cannot work until she/he receives EAD (up to 9 months)
  Some people have had problems with driver licenses, Social Security cards, leases, and bank accounts during this period
  Spouse will not receive Green Card for many months after Adjustment of Status is filed
  A K-1 might be a better choice when 18-21 year old children are immigrating also
  In some situations, marriage can affect certain home-country benefits, making a K-1 a better choice
  A denied K-1 is sent back to USCIS to expire
  K-1 entrant cannot file for citizenship until after having Green Card for 3 years
  Once an I-129F has been approved, delaying the case is difficult to impossible if the need arises
  If US spouse declines to participate in Adjustment of Status, the foreign spouse will have a very difficult avenue to legally remain in the US
  Current Presidential executive order (travel bans) don't allow K-1 visa holders from some countries to enter the US

CR-1/IR-1
  Less expensive than K-1
  No Adjustment of Status (I-485, I-131, I-765) required
  Spouse can immediately travel outside the US
  Spouse is authorized to work immediately upon arrival
  Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card within 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US
  Opening a bank account, getting a driver license, etc. are very easily accomplished with GC, SS card, and passport
  Spouse has legal permanent resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US
  The clock for citizenship filing starts immediately upon entry to the US
  A CR-1/IR-1 case can be delayed indefinitely at NVC if the need arises
  Current Presidential executive order (travel bans) exempt immediate relatives of US citizens

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Even if K-1 is faster, it won't be by much, and certainly not enough to overcome its deficiencies in comparison with the CR-1.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Posted

Dutchie here as well. CR1 all the way because with the CR1 you can start working and building your life immediately upon entering the US on your approved visa. 
 

You can get married in the US during one of your visits, but make sure to leave after your visit. I had no issues visiting while my CR1 was pending, my visits were short (2 weeks). 

“It’s been 84 years…” 

- Me talking about the progress of my I-751

 

 

 
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