CRBA Question - U.S. citizenship (asking for a friend)

[Aussielad 39]

Asking for input for a friend,

 

A friend had a child in Colombia with a woman who was just after money from him, they had a child. My friend was born in another country other than the U.S. however is naturalized. She has been wanting $5,000 per month + U.S. citizenship to come and get any financial benefit she can. His name is not on the birth certificate yet, but it's about to. 

 

He said that she might/might not have a copy of his U.S. biographical page. That would not be enough for her to go to the U.S. consulate and get the child U.S. citizenship would it? The CRBA (Consulate Report of Birth Abroad) is more scrutinized that just her bringing a copy of his biographical page of his passport no?

 

My understanding it has to be the original document, plus proof of physical presence such as tax returns, military DD214, university transcripts, etc, etc....plus the U.S. consulate would need him as the U.S. citizen to be the one to physically file the form DS 2029 as the U.S. citizen no?

[OldUser 10,355]

10 minutes ago, Aussielad said:

who was just after money from him, they had a child.

Irrelevant detail.

10 minutes ago, Aussielad said:

 

She has been wanting $5,000 per month + U.S. citizenship to come and get any financial benefit she can.

Good luck, nobody can prevent her from dreaming.

 

10 minutes ago, Aussielad said:

He said that she might/might not have a copy of his U.S. biographical page. That would not be enough for her to go to the U.S. consulate and get the child U.S. citizenship would it? The CRBA (Consulate Report of Birth Abroad) is more scrutinized that just her bringing a copy of his biographical page of his passport no?

 

My understanding it has to be the original document, plus proof of physical presence such as tax returns, military DD214, university transcripts, etc, etc....plus the U.S. consulate would need him as the U.S. citizen to be the one to physically file the form DS 2029 as the U.S. citizen no?

 

Yes, more than just bio page is needed for CRBA.

 

What does father of the child want?

Does he want the child to be registered as US citizen?

 

Even if he does all this and registers the child as US citizen, child's mother can pound sand. She cannot come to the US just because her child is a US citizen. Either husband will have to file I-130 for her or the US citizen child can sponsor her after reaching 21 years. Nothing happens without husband or adult child sponsoring her.

It may take many years until her dream of coming to the states to collect $5000 (how, I want to know too?) materializes

Edited 21 hours ago by OldUser

[Boiler 47,846]

Sounds like they are not married

 

Also unclear if the friend could pass on Citizenship, assuming the child is actually his.

 

I assume she could look to the Colombian Courts and if she got a judgement seek to have it enforced in the US.

Edited 20 hours ago by Boiler

[Aussielad 39]

Figure, they are not together. Haven't been together for a while. He has tried time and time again to come to a happy-medium with a child support but she won't budge off $5,000, which is precisely why he hasn't ever recognized the child or signed the birth certificate as yet. He just got ordered to take a DNA test in Colombia (which he won't go to, he prefers to send the evidence from Florida).

 

The father of the child DOES NOT want the child to be registered as a U.S. citizen, because his main concern is her coming to the U.S. on her tourist visa and coming to get every single benefit available. Child has severe down syndrome. However she is high-class in Colombia. 

 

So in other words, she is using the childs disability to get whatever money she can get out of him. That has been the central part of conflict. He offered her $1,000-$1,500 per month in Colombia, she has 2 apartments, works for the government, lives with her parents, so she is not suffering, she is just wanting to get money in any place possible and using the kid's disability as a means for it.

 

..........oh, and she said that the father has 0 rights to the kid, not even to see him....just wants him to pay her the money every month.

 

I told my friend that is very concerning as he has rights, but the kid was born in Colombia.

[OldUser 10,355]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Sounds like they are not married

 

Also unclear if the friend could pass on Citizenship, assuming the child is actually his.

 

I assume she could look to the Colombian Courts and if she got a judgement seek to have it enforced in the US.

Oh man, good point about marital status. Somehow I assumed they were married...

Edited 20 hours ago by OldUser

[TBoneTX 47,836]

Thread is shifted from the US Citizenship main forum to the CRBA subforum.

Edited 20 hours ago by TBoneTX

[Aussielad 39]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Sounds like they are not married

 

Also unclear if the friend could pass on Citizenship, assuming the child is actually his.

 

I assume she could look to the Colombian Courts and if she got a judgement seek to have it enforced in the US.

No, they are not married, never were. He knows the kid is his without a doubt. Citizenship could get passed on if they weren't married,  but I also understand there's a few extra steps my friend has to take with the U.S. consulate for that to happen, like signing a declaration that he is the father and would be responsible for the kid, etc, etc.

 

She could go through the Colombian courts, but weather that can be enforced in the U.S. I do not know. But she threats a lot to use her U.S. tourist visa to sue him for child support in one state, and go back and live in Colombia....

 

I said to my friend that she can't do that, as she does not have legal domicile in the U.S. and is circumnavigating the U.S. immigration laws.

[OldUser 10,355]

4 minutes ago, Aussielad said:

No, they are not married, never were. He knows the kid is his without a doubt. Citizenship could get passed on if they weren't married,  but I also understand there's a few extra steps my friend has to take with the U.S. consulate for that to happen, like signing a declaration that he is the father and would be responsible for the kid, etc, etc.

 

She could go through the Colombian courts, but weather that can be enforced in the U.S. I do not know. But she threats a lot to use her U.S. tourist visa to sue him for child support in one state, and go back and live in Colombia....

 

I said to my friend that she can't do that, as she does not have legal domicile in the U.S. and is circumnavigating the U.S. immigration laws.

All the ideas she has are delusional...

[Boiler 47,846]

Not sure why, for some reason I think I have heard this or a similar story.

 

Obviously he needs US legal representation, family law.

 

I suppose if she wants to visit the US she can, child would also need a visa if that is her plan. He would need to participate for a CRBA to work and the child obtain a US Passport.

[Aussielad 39]

You are right Boiler, this topic came up around 2, almost 3 years ago, she went quiet, but now she's came back worse than ever because she actually filed in the court system in Colombia. 

 

This time she's going all in for U.S. citizenship, $5,000 per month, and a billion other benefits. The Colombian courts up until now seem to favor her demands. Obviously the U.S. citizenship isn't going to happen though. As much as he wanted to do it for the kid who has severe Down syndrome, she is just using the kid to gain any monetary benefits from the U.S. and go back to Colombia and live comfortably at the expense of the kid. 

 

[OldUser 10,355]

5 minutes ago, Aussielad said:

This time she's going all in for U.S. citizenship, $5,000 per month, and a billion other benefits.

She can dream... no court I know of can order somebody to sponsor somebody for immigration benefit...

[Boiler 47,846]

All he can do is Lawyer up and see what happens. Maybe all talk.

[milimelo 4,824]

Well in the current state of tourist visas all he'd have to do is report her to State or USCIS and that would get her visa revoked - they certainly don't want tourists turning overstays to get benefits. But he'd need to list her bio date - full name, DOB, citizenship, passport # if known.