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Hi everyone,

 

I am a F1 visa holder in the US. My girlfriend is a US citizen. We plan to marry and apply for green card for me.

 

My most recent entry into the US was around Jan 10, 2024. Because now it's my spring break, we want to get married first while I am pretty free. But right now it's still within 90 days since my last entry. So I would like to ask if I really need to wait a few weeks more to get married.

 

I know there are several posts on this topic but I didn't see a similar case that applies to me. And I saw different info from the internet so I am pretty confused. Thanks so much for any inputs!

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2 hours ago, Panda_Gorda said:

So I would like to ask if I really need to wait a few weeks more to get married.

There is no 90 day rule.  You can marry, get the marriage certificate, then file the I-130, I-130a, I-485, I-131, and I-765 right away.

Be aware of the travel and work restrictions when filing to Adjust Status.

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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3 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

There is no 90 day rule.  You can marry, get the marriage certificate, then file the I-130, I-13a, I-485, I-131, and I-765 right away.

Your response is much appreciated. Do you mind elaborating on that? Because I saw different info somewhere else such as Boundless. That made me confused and worried.

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To emphasize what @Crazy Cat said, there is no 90 day rule.

 

Good Luck!

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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4 minutes ago, Panda_Gorda said:

Do you mind elaborating on that?

90 day rule is a Department of State guideline....not a USCIS directive.  I cannot recall anyone ever being denied due to this "rule".  The USCIS officer won't even ask you about it.  

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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11 minutes ago, Panda_Gorda said:

Your response is much appreciated. Do you mind elaborating on that? Because I saw different info somewhere else such as Boundless. That made me confused and worried.

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Your intent was determined by CBP at the border when you entered the U.S.  Life changes all the time.

 

Good Luck!

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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3 hours ago, Panda_Gorda said:

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am a F1 visa holder in the US. My girlfriend is a US citizen. We plan to marry and apply for green card for me.

 

My most recent entry into the US was around Jan 10, 2024. Because now it's my spring break, we want to get married first while I am pretty free. But right now it's still within 90 days since my last entry. So I would like to ask if I really need to wait a few weeks more to get married.

 

I know there are several posts on this topic but I didn't see a similar case that applies to me. And I saw different info from the internet so I am pretty confused. Thanks so much for any inputs!

As long as you didn’t lie to CBP about your intent (i e not to adjust status and stay), it is fine.

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20 hours ago, Panda_Gorda said:

 

Hi everyone,

 

I am a F1 visa holder in the US. My girlfriend is a US citizen. We plan to marry and apply for green card for me.

 

My most recent entry into the US was around Jan 10, 2024. Because now it's my spring break, we want to get married first while I am pretty free. But right now it's still within 90 days since my last entry. So I would like to ask if I really need to wait a few weeks more to get married.

 

I know there are several posts on this topic but I didn't see a similar case that applies to me. And I saw different info from the internet so I am pretty confused. Thanks so much for any inputs!

The 90-day rule was eliminated in July 2021, but USCIS might decide you misrepresented your entry by getting married almost right after you entered. 

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I do remember it being an issue before the court cases, the names of which escape me but essentially say the PoE had the chance and admitted .

 

I suppose that if someone put their hands up and said yes I lied etc, but I have not come across that and lets face it this is not exactly uncommon.

 

And of course there is nothing magic about 90 days or even 60 days that seems now the magic time.

 

Plus of course it is a pretty pointless exercise as a waiver is available and they are here.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 hours ago, Boiler said:

And of course there is nothing magic about 90 days or even 60 days that seems now the magic time.

Agree.  I have never understood the logic behind waiting 90 days.  If I had fraudulent intent when I entered the US, how does waiting 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, etc. change what my intent was?  😂

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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