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A family member who is eligible for naturalisation a few months from now has been diagnosed with major depressive disorder which is termed as mental illness. However he is undergoing treatment for the same with a psychiatrist. He has no other health issues nor is he on benefits or any such and never has been and clean medical history What are his chances of becoming a citizen when he applies....

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3 minutes ago, Pearlcity said:

What are his chances of becoming a citizen when he applies....

100 percent of he passes civics and English tests.

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Just now, Mike E said:

100 percent of he passes civics and English tests.

Oh.. what is form N648 something he mentioned..

Just now, Pearlcity said:

Oh.. what is form N648 something he mentioned..

Thankyou for the reply.. poor guy looks very stressed about that

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2 minutes ago, Pearlcity said:

Oh.. what is form N648 something he mentioned..

 

This is a form for seeking a medical exception to civics and English tests on N-400.
 

 

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1 hour ago, Mike E said:

This is a form for seeking a medical exception to civics and English tests on N-400.
 

 

Based on what OP mentioned, how real or feasible are the chances of getting it granted without the need for the tests?

I am guessing the OP's friend would also need to provide proof of diagnosis and a potential letter from the psychiatrist?

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26 minutes ago, Fe.Ta said:

Based on what OP mentioned, how real or feasible are the chances of getting it granted without the need for the tests?

I am guessing the OP's friend would also need to provide proof of diagnosis and a potential letter from the psychiatrist?


Even if one takes the tests succesfully, is it not required that the individual be of sound mind without any mental illness.. they count depression as mental illness when a person goes to a doctor and is diagnosed

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35 minutes ago, Pearlcity said:


Even if one takes the tests succesfully, is it not required that the individual be of sound mind without any mental illness.. they count depression as mental illness when a person goes to a doctor and is diagnosed


Correct.

 

I was not asking Mike trying to question your post or legitimacy.  I am trying to gage the chances of being able to do this successfully and how many get it approved as I was not aware of this particular form and would like to know for educational purposes and assist others in the future.

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The form says:

 

Part 4. Ability to Understand Oath of Allegiance

The applicant will not be able to naturalize without a legal guardian, surrogate, or an eligible designated representative unless they are able to understand and communicate that they understand the meaning of the Oath of Allegiance. The Oath may be administered in the applicant's language of choice and they may communicate their understanding in any manner (for example, by nodding).

1. Is the applicant able to understand and communicate that they understand the meaning of the Oath of

•Yes

No

Allegiance to the United States

 

So if OP’s friend is under a legal incapacity or can convince the clinician that the oath is understood, then naturalization is possible.

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13 hours ago, Pearlcity said:


Even if one takes the tests succesfully, is it not required that the individual be of sound mind without any mental illness.. they count depression as mental illness when a person goes to a doctor and is diagnosed

No, there is no requirement to not have a mental illness. It's very common to have depression. In no way does this mean your relative is ineligible for naturalization.... Where does that idea even come from?

 

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33 minutes ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

No, there is no requirement to not have a mental illness. It's very common to have depression. In no way does this mean your relative is ineligible for naturalization.... Where does that idea even come from?

 

Oh ok.. 

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On 7/2/2023 at 9:55 PM, Pearlcity said:


Even if one takes the tests succesfully, is it not required that the individual be of sound mind without any mental illness.. they count depression as mental illness when a person goes to a doctor and is diagnosed

 

Actually... they do ask you if you have been diagnosed with a depressive disorder and/or suicidality disorder or any other mental illness that could affect your judgement.

 

Now, you can just say no (which is technically lying) or you can be forthcoming and say yes but here is a letter from my doctor that I am of sound judgment and I am getting treatment.

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