Adventure in travel to Philippines

[Palawan 130]

20 minutes ago, Timona said:

Worry not about the bag..You're entitled to $3800, if I remember correctly. So, if it even gets delayed by a day or better 3 days, I believe you get $3800. A delay for a day is $500, I think. And when they finally find the bag, they'll give it to you too. 

 

Google DoT rules on this. 

I had a bag get lost going thru Bejieng to Manila about 10 years ago, took about 2 months to finally show up back at my home airport, I got nothing and of course the bag had been picked thru. 

[EllisAndRenz 193]

1 hour ago, Timona said:

Worry not about the bag..You're entitled to $3800, if I remember correctly. So, if it even gets delayed by a day or better 3 days, I believe you get $3800. A delay for a day is $500, I think. And when they finally find the bag, they'll give it to you too. 

 

Google DoT rules on this. 

I was able to look it up.  It's a bit nuanced.  They are liable for UP TO the $3,800, but it's only for reasonable purchases to replace missing items.  HOWEVER: That's only for domestic flights in the USA.  International flights are covered by a Treaty of Montreal, limiting liability for "up to $1780"

I just want her to get her bag back, and I'd like my baggage fee refunded.  The worst part is I told them where it was ahead of time and they ignored me multiple times.  Now someone (probably Asiana) will be liable, because American dropped the ball.  

 

From my research: 
For domestic flights, the DOT says airlines are liable for up to $3,800 for lost, damaged or delayed bags. The DOT says International flights are subject to the Montreal Convention, which established international airline liabilities, which sets airlines’ baggage liability at about $1,780. Airlines are free to compensate passengers with more money, they just aren’t legally obligated to. 

[Adventine 3,187]

Did you book the flights with a credit card? Some cards offer compensation for travel delays and lost/delayed luggage. Details are usually in the fine print on the credit card issuer's website.

 

But yeah, going forward, always book tickets to match the name on the passport. 

[EllisAndRenz 193]

OK, so spoke with Asiana Airlines.  While they said that she's fine to fly with *them* in this case, they cannot guarantee that the Philippine version of TSA will let her thru.  Worse, they won't change the name on the ticket since the outbound has already been flown.

 

I'm waiting to see what Expedia comes up with.  I may be on the hook for buying her a new homebound ticket just to play it safe.  (I fear what the ticket would cost if I buy it on the day of her departure if things don't work out)

 

She just got there two hours ago.  I'm not going to tell her about any of this today.  🙂

 

[Adventine 3,187]

Might be cheaper to renew her passport in her married name while in the Philippines. If she can book an appointment, get all the documents together (including the Report of Marriage which will justify her using your last name), and she is staying for a prolonged period, she might (very big MIGHT) get it on time. 

[EllisAndRenz 193]

Just now, Adventine said:

Might be cheaper to renew her passport in her married name while in the Philippines. If she can book an appointment, get all the documents together (including the Report of Marriage which will justify her using your last name), and she is staying for a prolonged period, she might (very big MIGHT) get it on time. 

Yeah, she's only there for another 2.5 weeks.  She has to get back to work.  I don't think that will work out.

[Palawan 130]

5 minutes ago, EllisAndRenz said:

OK, so spoke with Asiana Airlines.  While they said that she's fine to fly with *them* in this case, they cannot guarantee that the Philippine version of TSA will let her thru.  Worse, they won't change the name on the ticket since the outbound has already been flown.

 

I'm waiting to see what Expedia comes up with.  I may be on the hook for buying her a new homebound ticket just to play it safe.  (I fear what the ticket would cost if I buy it on the day of her departure if things don't work out)

 

She just got there two hours ago.  I'm not going to tell her about any of this today.  🙂

 

She will get thru the security gaurd, they don't have version of TSA.

 

 It will be the ticket counter person she needs to get thru when she checks in bags or checks in for the flight.

[EllisAndRenz 193]

2 minutes ago, Palawan said:

She will get thru the security gaurd, they don't have version of TSA.

 

 It will be the ticket counter person she needs to get thru when she checks in bags or checks in for the flight.

The guy at Asiana said they should be fine with it.  American and Asiana both checked the documents stateside and let her thru.  Only Philippine air had an issue.  (And they may have been right).  Asiana reviewed her documents on line before issuing the boarding pass.

 

I'm on the fence.  I don't know if she should leave this to chance or not.  

 

[Palawan 130]

56 minutes ago, EllisAndRenz said:

The guy at Asiana said they should be fine with it.  American and Asiana both checked the documents stateside and let her thru.  Only Philippine air had an issue.  (And they may have been right).  Asiana reviewed her documents on line before issuing the boarding pass.

 

I'm on the fence.  I don't know if she should leave this to chance or not.  

 

American was domestic Correct?  Asiana was for international?

 

If she made it there she is half way done, I would just roll the bones and see if she gets out, she was able to get into Philippines seems as if she should be able to get out assuming she is flying the same airlines, that would be my point to use if they give her grief....

[EllisAndRenz 193]

21 minutes ago, Palawan said:

American was domestic Correct?  Asiana was for international?

 

If she made it there she is half way done, I would just roll the bones and see if she gets out, she was able to get into Philippines seems as if she should be able to get out assuming she is flying the same airlines, that would be my point to use if they give her grief....

American is domestic, but it was an international flight.  They "owned" the trip so to speak.  She wasn't going to board to LAX if they didn't check the credentials for Asiana.  (They issued those boarding passes in Orlando). She got there and her aunt is adamant that she updates her passport.  Let's see how that works out.  

 

If not, I'll go from there.  Asiana seems pretty reasonable.  

Good adventure, mistakes were made.  Live and learn.  I suspect she will be asleep for the next 30 hours.  LOL

[confusedshoes 193]

I hope I'm not about to go through this sort of adventure. I'm about to go to Manila as well. But my tickets are in the same name as my passport. My passport is still in my maiden name. So I'm bringing the greencard, marriage certificate and other documents in case any or all are needed.

 

Also, have you guys done the Report of Marriage (ROM)? This is filed at your local Ph consulate/embassy. I'm not sure how possible it is to get a new passport in her married name if you don't have the ROM yet. 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by confusedshoes

[Adventine 3,187]

4 minutes ago, confusedshoes said:

I hope I'm not about to go through this sort of adventure. I'm about to go to Manila as well. But my tickets are in the same name as my passport. My passport is still in my maiden name. So I'm bringing the greencard, marriage certificate and other documents in case any or all are needed.

 

Also, have you guys done the Report of Marriage (ROM)? This is filed at your local Ph consulate/embassy. I'm not sure how possible it is to get a new passport in her married name if you don't have the ROM yet. 

 

 

 

Relax. I travelled with a passport and flight booking both in my maiden name. I didn't bother with the ROM. My green card is also in my maiden name. But you should be fine as long as you bring your marriage cert.

[confusedshoes 193]

16 minutes ago, Adventine said:

 

Relax. I travelled with a passport and flight booking both in my maiden name. I didn't bother with the ROM. My green card is also in my maiden name. But you should be fine as long as you bring your marriage cert.

 

Lol, thanks, I'm sure it'll all be ok. But I'm steeling myself and overpreparing in case it isn't. My GC is in my married name. Everything is in my married name except for my Ph passport because we're waiting on the ROM (takes a long time).

 

I was asking OP about ROM because it got suggested to them that maybe they can get his wife a new Ph passport during her trip so that her passport will be in her married name, to match her tickets. But my experience with this simple name change with the Ph consulate is that it isn't that simple, it's actually a huge deal to them and the ROM takes months to complete so I don't know if it's possible for OP's wife to just get a new Ph passport in her married name without the ROM. If filed late, they would also need a notarized letter explaining why it was filed late. Lol.

[Chancy 6,233]

13 hours ago, confusedshoes said:

I don't know if it's possible for OP's wife to just get a new Ph passport in her married name without the ROM.

 

Without ROM, it's not possible to get a PH passport listing married name.  PSA marriage certificate or ROM document is one of the DFA requirements.  (I tried applying with my US marriage certificate, but DFA wouldn't budge on the ROM requirement.  So I still have my passport in my maiden name.)

 

[Carpe Vinum 2,314]

20 hours ago, Adventine said:

 

Relax. I travelled with a passport and flight booking both in my maiden name. I didn't bother with the ROM. My green card is also in my maiden name. But you should be fine as long as you bring your marriage cert.

Same as my wife.